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News on Haswell based mobile Precision M6800 ?

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by HPVD, Mar 7, 2013.

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  1. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    This is OK!
     
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    TOnt Notebook Guru

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    I would very much like Dell to get in the game and start offering better screen options (IPS options excluded obviously). The size of the bezels on existing models is just a complete travesty imho. The existing footprint of the Latitude/Precision models would easily allow them to put out a 14" Latitude/Precision with a 15.6" screen. (retina maybe asking too much?). Or a 15.6" with a 17" screen!? Not sure why they would not see the demand that would produce. I've tried posting on Idea Strom.. but no votes. I just don't get it. They've already blazed the trail with the e6430s/u. Why not take the logical step and make it a standard across all business models. Can anyone explain to me why they aren't can't do this? Anyone from Dell willing to chime in here?
     
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    Diaphanous Notebook Consultant

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    Many of us would like that, but I would not hold my breath. Dell doesn't "innovate" often in its high-performance computers and business machines. I assume that it wants to provide reliable and tested designs for its "top customers," but all of the complaints about the quality of Dell machines suggest otherwise. The lack of innovation would not be a problem if Dell's offerings were far-and-away superior in quality or value to the others, but that has not been the case for years. The increases in R&D spending might help. (Interesting how Dell lumps Alienware and Precision buyers together in this regard and cuts down Alienware in favor of Precision in most others.)

    That said, I expect higher resolutions on Alienware laptops in a few iterations. I don't know about Precisions.
     
  4. TOnt

    TOnt Notebook Guru

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    I believe you are right in that Dell is very cautious towards 'innovating' where their business market is concerned. And as far as quality goes...there is a 10% to 20% failure rate in first 3yrs industry wide in consumer electronics. It's not like one manufacturer is at 0% and the last place is at 50% failure rate. Your chances at a lemon are fairly even regardless.

    But I also believe that as with all OEM's in the tech industry...innovation is not driven by market demand, but rather driven by back room deals with manufacturers/developers such as intel and LG etc. There is definitely a demand for thunderbolt ports, which is a newer protocol in direct competition with USB3. Thunderbolt is clearly superior....but it's adoption is slow because of existing contracts and yadda yadda....no need to worry what consumers actually want. Another case in point...16:10 vs 16:9 ratio. 16:10 is gone...not because consumers don't want it...but because the industry decided 16:9 was a more profitable/convenient manufacturing process. As far the PC industry goes...market demand is a secondary consideration. They determine design/specs, and project units sold years in advance. The industry decides what will be available for the most part, and if you desire something that they haven't decided to adopt yet...well....

    That being said...Dell should still be listening...and pushing the envelope to stay ahead of the curve.
     
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    Dell does not have the hypnotic powers that Apple has, but even they have had their share of failed attempts: recall the Cube or firewire. Being an innovator in this field (and others too) could leave you high and dry.

    Consumers often say they want something, but don't buy. GM was an innovator with a high mileage all electric car everybody said they wanted but nobody bought? Sometimes innovation can be very, very expensive.
     
  6. thenew3

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    Not likely to happen for a few more generations. 10gb ethernet chipsets are still very power hungry. it'll be difficult to integrate such a power hungry chipset onto a mobile device. A few more generations of 10gb chipsets will eventually produce low enough power chipsets to be integrated into mobile devices. Maybe it'll even be integrated into the south bridge in a few generations.
     
  7. baii

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    New IPS panel, get to look at some good pic of 8770w and 8760w. The corner tint is there on hp machine as well. i have no idea why it is not widely complained since that panel first used.
     
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    Which is why I advocate focusing on these types of improvements first. These are the things that effect your productivity and final product. While cosmetic changes are great, they're all too often used to cover up other more important problems and issues that need to be addressed first.

    The only changes that would interest me to upgrade would be useful changes like greater cooling capacity, power supply, and last but certainly not least, more flexible serviceability like a modular design.

    Imagine being able to change your display by a simple frame swap: you slide out the old and slide in the new. Just like you do with the HDD! Now that's a chassis upgrade worthy of attention.
     
  9. frogy

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    It is incredible that this LCD panel, used for a long time now, in the M6700 and the M6600, in several versions, still have this problem. I saw several M6700 with more than 1000 Kelvin difference between each corner !! Mine have less than 400 K but it is the better i saw.
    Photographers needs IPS panel but untill this problem is not solved, they wont go for it. And the IPS panel is now unavailable for M6700, my company stopped buying M6700.
    Hope there will be an IPS option for M6800, with a good panel !
     
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    Dell just started to implement PLS panels I think, and they already did it for the alienware line, so, will probably in the precision too~
     
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