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M6800 Owners' Thread

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by billxt95, Nov 1, 2013.

  1. TriBeard

    TriBeard Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, they've pushed my delivery date back from Monday to Wednesday. Lovely. I'm just hoping it doesn't get pushed again and again and again.. and so on. I had to change the address as I had originally wanted it sent to my apartment (I'm in my last year of college) but that week is my spring break and I was planning on going home, so I updated the shipping address. The change looks fine on the order tracking page, but I'm hoping I didn't cause more issues that way. 18 days (assuming it's actually delivered on time) seems really long to have to wait, but I guess boats from china are pretty slow these days.
     
  2. Spring1898

    Spring1898 Notebook Consultant

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    For those who were interested in the differences between the color of an IPS vs non IPS screen I have take 2 pictures of the same desktop background from both computers.
    Since it is a picture of a picture, being displayed on a monitor, the colors are not accurate. But it does serve to contrast the difference between the two screens.
    Both screens are in stock settings with no calibration, full brightness, same camera. I did have to move it around a bit to minimize the pixilation and lines.
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    My conclusion is that in stock configuration, the non IPS 72% NTSC screens tend to under-represent the colors. They are more washed out and flat, and the screen cries out for gamma correction.
    The IPS screens in stock configuration, while more photo-realistic in their color, tend to oversaturate the colors. So it is still closer to reality than the non ips, but goes too far.

    In person it is like looking at the same view, but with the non-IPS it is cloudy outside, and with the IPS the sun is shining brightly.

    Both improve with calibration, but as I don't have a calibrating tool that comparison will have to be done by someone else, unless someone wishes to donate :)
     
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  3. TriBeard

    TriBeard Notebook Evangelist

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    That top one looks over-saturated or something to me. Though, it's always hard to photograph that kind of stuff so who knows.
     
  4. landsome

    landsome Notebook Evangelist

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    It's not really an apples-to-apples comparison because the RGB IPS displays are factory-calibrated (even though less than perfectly).

    The calibration on the 72% gamut makes a world of difference, and will offer comparable images _in sRGB_ (the two 72 gamuts I own cover somewhere between 95-100% of sRGB).

    Plus the IPS has one further advantage - ability to switch between color spaces with a click. So you could use the IPS in a sRGB color space (as I do), which it fully covers, and get rid of the oversaturated colors (which are there because Win works in sRGB). And you're still left with excellent image _at all angles_.
     
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  5. Spring1898

    Spring1898 Notebook Consultant

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    I agree. If you are only using sRGB, which most users are, and most images will be displayed on, the IPS has little advantage.
    If you are in the business of using the other modes that the IPS screen is capable of, then there is no comparison.

    Angles are a huge bonus with the IPS, they are much greater.

    Between my two screens, the clarity and sharpness of the IPS is better, but that is more likely a coating and screen material difference rather than an objective IPS and TN panel difference.


    But for most people this is not important, and I expect that lack of sales for the IPS panel was not worth the added engineering cost to keep it. I certainly don't utilize it.
    And for those that do use it, I would imagine they have desktop monitors that are better suited than a small screen anyway.
     
  6. TriBeard

    TriBeard Notebook Evangelist

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    I have a nice (for me) IPS desktop monitor that I LOVE, so I know why people like IPS. The biggest thing for me is that even if it were available, I'm not sure that it would be worth the battery trade off, at least not for the average user.
     
  7. landsome

    landsome Notebook Evangelist

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    Desktop IPS that are of the nice variety tend to be better than the notebook Premiercolor / Dreamcolor.
     
  8. knight427

    knight427 theenemysgateisdown

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    Anecdotally, my Dreamcolor panel puts my ips monitor to shame.

    Flown in by carrier pigeon.
     
  9. landsome

    landsome Notebook Evangelist

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    Depends on a variety of circumstances, of course, but _good_ desktop IPS's tend to be better than the notebook DC/PremierC. Sure enough, the cheaper, 6-bit desktop variants tend to be worse.
     
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    knight427 theenemysgateisdown

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    Fyi, the zr24w is 8bit. While my dreamcolor panel is capable of 10 bit I run it in 8bit sRGB. In my opinion, you would need to buy a desktop ips probably approaching $1k to compete and maybe beat the DC2 panel.

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