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M6600 to M6700 - Are you upgrading?

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by slimpower, Sep 30, 2012.

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  1. slimpower

    slimpower Notebook Evangelist

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    Make sure you do not miss Dell-Mano_G's useful comment above.

    I haven't really thought this through fully but is Dell missing an opportunity here?

    I mean, I am sure everyone would love to upgrade but there is the hassle (and time) of setting up a new laptop, a risk (no matter how small) that the new laptop will not be as stable, cost etc.

    But if Dell approached you and said, we will take your M6600 off your hands, you give us the specs you want on the M6700 and we will give you a deal that you will find almost impossible to say no to, then I am sure many of us would probably splash a little cash to get the latest and greatest right? Or am I wrong? And would it be even feasible (and profitable) for Dell to do?

    At the moment Dell knows we are its greatest Ambassador's (excluding Bokeh of course who is an another realm entirely! ;-) ), most above have said they will be upgrading to the M6800 or M6900, so Dell knows it will be making more money from us eventually, but could it make more from us, and from more of us, if it had an upgrade plan as described above?

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Tom1939

    Tom1939 Notebook Consultant

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    Any used notebook loses its value very fast. So any program like that would kill the profit of the new machine. I dont think many of us would call less the half price for our around one year old M6600 a great deal. And I think every cost included Dell would lose money on that.

    So I think dell is perfectly happy if we come around for any precision sooner or later. Better sooner of course :)
     
  3. WaNaWe900

    WaNaWe900 Notebook Consultant

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    yeap... you two got a good points but still if there's situation such as slimpower mentioned, I'll surely grab it... ha ha ha :thumbsup: rather than to wait another 3~5 years for the coming new models :cool:
     
  4. slimpower

    slimpower Notebook Evangelist

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    Some of that is what I orginally thought, but then I started questioning these ideas. Here is what I came up with:

    - Dell can refurb and sell a good quality M6600 now much better than in 1 or two years.

    - I think many of the people who have a M6600 now would consider a good deal, as a) it allows them to stay with the best of the best b) it means they do not need to sell their old machine themselves c) It might save them money

    - I think if Dell said to me today, that I could get a brand new M6700 (in the specs I want) for X, as long as I give back my M6600, then I would consider it very seriously. If they don't they will not see any money from me until M6800 or M6900.

    - By keeping the current customers of the most up to date machines there is less chance of a competitor to come in with a new product and steal them away. This may sound absurd but if Dell had an upgrade plan like this, then you would be less interested in what Sony, Lenovo etc are doing. BUT, if you stay with the same machine for 2-3 perhaps 4 years, there is every chance another brand could come out with a new monster that appeals to you.

    If you look at this thread (of course it is just a small sampling) but not one person, has come out and said "yes" I upgraded. Of course there will be some with loads of money, but perhaps there are more people out there that would like to upgrade but just need an incentive.

    Anyway, perhaps in the future we will have a rental deal in place where instead of buying we rent. But that is another cup of tea entirely.
     
  5. Smooth_J

    Smooth_J Notebook Deity

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    Dell used to have a buy back program like best buys program - however it appears that may have taken that down cause I don't see it any longer on the site.

    Also, they do have a lease program, but I never tried it before.

    Dell Quick Leasing Financing Options - QuickLease | Dell

    As for me though, I won't upgrade yet. Granted, yes, I just got this thing, and I might upgrade things here and there, but I figure this system should last me at least 2 years and then I can sell it at hopefully a good price since it has two more years left on the warranty.
     
  6. TMastPrecision

    TMastPrecision Notebook Guru

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    I read that if you try and use it with the M6600 and M4600 a msg will pop up and say it is not supported and you have to unplug it. Have you actually tried it yourself?
     
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    bulls4ever Notebook Enthusiast

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    I actually looked for refurb M6600 to buy but ended up buying a used as there was no deal. i only found M4600 refurb (for a great price tbh)

    I second the notion that if Dell offers to take the used one to upgrade it Id be interested, or else Id wait for a model that is really worth upgrading. Although it is not that hard for us to just sell on EBAY and use the money to upgrade it. For Dell, they miss on good chance to sell notebooks as there is a big advantage on buying refurb: some warranty and i believe the choice to buy extended warranty.

    I didn't see much value on M7700 or even M6800 (other than better graphics compatibility: read k5100M). For that, a refurb/used M6600 sounds a better deal atm.

    Whenever AMD releases mobile quadros based on maxwell (2nd gen) and price is accessible I will upgrade. I don't even see this happening on M6900 (amd card would be too expensive)

    GPU: K5100M not available on M6600. 780M does not work on M6600 but may on M67/68
    CPU: i7-2860QM is as goood as i7-4700MQ.
    M6800 cheaper choice comes with i5-4210M. In order to get a processor better than the i7-2869QM, we'd have to upgrade to at least i7-4810MQ. that is $245 more than the base i5. But to really justify the upgrade (based on CPU only) one would want the i7-4910MQ. that is $480 more.

    Price
    To build a comparable notebook (same/similar performance) than a M6600 i72860QM with Quadro 5010M I'd have to buy one M6800 with i7-4710MQ and Quadro K3100M.

    This will cost $2200. I bought my used for $550. so even if my GPU dies, I'd have $1650 available before it becomes more expensive than the M6800.

    With that said, it is worth upgrading ONLY if i72860QM and Quadro 5010M is not enough.
    In that case, we'd go for the Quadro K5100 and i7-4910MQ (i leave the extremes alone as they need more power). the cost goes to $3,400

    So until i can place a 970M (or the comparable Quadro) I will not be upgrading my notebook unless of course Dell gives a great deal taking mine for an upgrade.
     
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