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Dell Precision M3800 - 2013!

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by slimpower, Jul 18, 2013.

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  1. Krane

    Krane Notebook Prophet

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    Point being RJ45 is obsolete? I think not. And yet VGA remains.
     
  2. m4600

    m4600 Notebook Consultant

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    The thing is, none of the interfaces I mentioned were truly obsolete when laptop manufacturers started dropping them. In fact, it was hard to imagine a computer without them, but eventually USB has successfully replaced them all! Heck, we still use a lot of equipment with RS-232 ports. But USB RS-232 adapters do the job just fine.

    My point is: although it is hard to understand the decision to drop the RJ45 port, we will survive without it! :)

    Dell does offer an alternative for networking. In fact it offers at least four alternatives with varying degree of security, performance and portability:

    1. USB3-Ethernet adapter
    2. USB3 docking station
    3. WiGig docking station
    4. Wi-Fi

    Personally, I plan to utilize all four of them: USB Dock or Ethernet adapter at work; WiGig at home, WiFi and Ethernet adapter on the road.
     
  3. Macpod

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    Projector manufactures need to start switching to DP. I doubt any laptop which has a VGA now days come without DP. The only reason why VGA is still around is for those bloody projectors, for mainstream market anyway. Im sure there are other uses for it but for most people that is the only time they need a VGA port.
     
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    You'd be surprised at how many laptops have HDMI instead of a display port. I don't see VGA going away anytime soon on business notebooks, on consumer laptops, yup, but I still foresee a lot of HDMI before we see Display Port.
     
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    Whats the point of HDMI over DP(mini)? Apart from legacy support. I honestly don't know.

    EDIT: most laptops that come with HDMI will also come with DP (thinkpad, dells) and there are plenty of DP-HDMI cables if you have an HDMI only display. DP dongles are also a lot more prevalent thanks to apple...Goodluck finding am HDMI-VGA converter at a convention. But someone will always have a mini displayport-VGA converter because of the prevalence of MACs these days.

    I guess eventually it's all thunderbolt. Because intel/mac has so much market influence these days.
     
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    Lenovo and Dell business units, yup, most consumer notebooks still lack display port. It is getting more common, but you still gotta give it a few more hardware generations imo. As for Thunderbolt, as long as it's not part of the chipset, you won't see it often. It is too expensive and for now it looks like it is heading the way of firewire. TB is kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place: peripherals are expensive and few because TB isn't common and most manufacturers don't put TB because it is more expensive to put in and it sees little use yet. Intel integrating it in their chipset would negate the need for an extra controller and lower the costs of putting it in notebooks by a fair amount. They were supposed to do it with Ivy Bridge initially, but still no sign of that even in Haswell...
     
  7. ibmthink

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    VGA will be disappear in 2015 with Skylake, as Intel and AMD, and the PC OEMs, have decided that all products at this point will stop to support VGA. See: VGA dead by 2015 say Intel, AMD & PC/display makers - SlashGear So at this point HDMI and DP is the future combination. DVI will disappear as well.
     
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    Another gem. Thanks!

    Now. I wonder if you know when will 8 core cpus make it to notebooks. It looks like haswell will be the first generation(intel) to have 8 cores in a consumer desktop CPU, the haswell-e 130W chip .

    We'd be lucky to see octocore mobile cpus by 7nm i think. It seems like intel is happy to just reduce the size of the CPU whle making the iGPU bigger for the time being.
     
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    So it will be dongle world at that time, I doubt VGA projectors will see the same kind of sudden death. I'm not sad to see VGA being phased out, but sigh, I'm not looking forward to using dongles. My research advisor spends a fortune on replacing lost dongles for his macs and I know I'll loose a few as well.

    I'll settle for 6 cores in the mean time. :p
     
  10. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    new projectors for some time have been shipping with dp. they probably did an obsolesce math and projected the change rate of the old projectors to the new ones and had arrived at that number.

    the thing that people change in projectors to keep them functional is the lamp and after some years, getting those lamps becomes more expensive than to buy a new projector

    for example all the projectors that uni uses are old, they have a life of around 5 years and they do have DP and HDMI. and given that they keep buying new ones with more ports I dont see the dongle world
     
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