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Dell Precision 5510 Owner's Lounge

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by Bokeh, Nov 24, 2015.

  1. luch

    luch Notebook Guru

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    So do you guys use the original windows system or other windows such as downloaded from MSDN.
    I use the MSDN version and did not meet some problems that reported here.
    Also I think the build of the system may also influence the stability of the machine.
     
  2. Bokeh

    Bokeh Notebook Deity

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    Here are the Dell Part numbers for the different adapters with the small plug -

    45W - DP/N 00285K - Pull at the wall is 46-49W. Does NOT charge the battery while running any applications. Gives battery X error. At complete idle, it does charge, but is slow.

    65W - DP/N 074VT4 - Has right angled plug - Pull at the wall peaks at 70W, but will sometimes fall back to around 40W. Seems to stabilize to 68 - 70W after time. Does NOT charge with full CPU load. Does charge with system running at idle.

    90W - DP/N 0RT74M - Pull at the wall is 89W, but under continuous load, the system will drop back to 32W from the wall, then ramp back up to 89W. Seems to eventually stabilize at 97W after time. Does charge the battery with system running and under full CPU load.

    Summary - With the system powered off, I am seeing 32-36W pulled from the wall for battery charging. This does not leave a lot of headroom for the system to run. In a pinch, charge with the 45W adapter with the system shut down. I don't like the system was behaving when powered on with the 45W. The 65W may keep up with light use, but charging and CPU-only loads stress it. The 90W seems adequate for CPU-only work, but I am seeing lag when I try use anything with the dGPU. The 90W is close to the performance I see with the 84Whr battery.

    Personal take - I am going to stick with the 130W adapter. I personally consider the other adapters to be good options if nothing else is available, but I don't like the unknown risks of running the system on power adapters that it was not designed for.
     
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  3. mr_handy

    mr_handy Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm using the MSDN "Windows 10 Pro, version 1511 with Feb 2016 update." I installed only a very, very few Dell-provided drivers initially; I don't remember exactly what came from Dell vs. Windows Update but most of it from the latter.

    I'm mostly on Linux, though so I only reboot to Windows to update firmware or play the odd game, so I am not the best person to judge stability.
     
  4. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Thanks for this info. I have not noticed any fluctuation in the power drain with the 65W / 90W PSUs but it's not something I have looked for. I must do some testing under load conditions but I've seen no problems with these CPU under light load. Most, if not all, of the programs I use are single-threaded and don't need the dGPU although it's useful to have the capability available if needed.

    John
     
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  5. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Dell have now released a new BIOS 1.2.14 said to fix the battery charge problem. Someone in the XPS forum has tried it and confirms that this bug is fixed. So no need for the mainboard and battery change which Dell did for my 5510 but I suspect that, at the time I raised the support request, they hadn't a clue what was happening. It subsequently became evident that the battery did charge OK with the buggy BIOS, but only up to 60%. Had I known that I would have waited for the BIOS to be fixed.

    John
     
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    Taking the plunge and see if the flickering still exists. No doubt that the new BIOS breaks something else.
     
  7. podam

    podam Notebook Consultant

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    Dear 5510 user lounge user,
    I went through entire discussion and reading explanation but couldn't figure to solve my problem, basically to make clean W10 install using Dell Recovery media downloaded from Dell support page.
    - First the laptop was delivered with working W7 installation i believed EFI(including working recovery partition) but after upgraded to W10 some issues with company installed software i had to revert to W7 state using rollback feature or W10. Then issues happened: partitions were a mess with 6 or more partitions created by DBAR attempt to make recovery... and at the end corrupted recovery partitions.
    -I request Dell support who take computer away for 2 weeks to restore factory setting: then i received laptop i found no more recovery partition (Dell said it is impossible to recover), W7 installation different from factory day one(missing most of Dell software install) and seems legacy install w7(no EFI). Even Dell update from Command update failed ( like Thunderbolt firmware...) and i though i would be better to go for clean system

    1) Then I decided then to go for W10 update using upgrade media from current W7: after files preparation in W7 session, laptop reboot and after selecting keyboard layout (from boot up prompts) installation failed with some error.
    2)Then i thought i could go for clean installation and downloaded W10 recovery image (customized image with my computer tag#) download was painfull from slow Dell server. Following Dell instruction to make bootable USB (thought command) , restart with F12, choose UEFI usb flash drive and i got error that something went wrong (boot missing file... or corrupted)
    3) i check BIOS setting legacy, UEFI, SSD raid... but i am unsure if using good setting . Contacted Dell support who redirected me to same procedure information i used before with no success.

    Could someone can help me to figure the correct installation procedure for Clean installation media on UEFI?
    - My unit is 1TB NVME SSD( single partition)

    This is the very first time i can not even reinstall clean image, until now everything has failed.

    That would be a great help!
     
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    podam Notebook Consultant

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    zelda007 Newbie

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    Hello,
    I would like to install windows 7 pro on my notebook from a USB port (because I do not have a CD/DVD)
    I must disable usb3 mode according to other forums... but my BIOS does not allow me to do that :(
    How can I do ?
    Thanks a lot
     
  10. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Put "side load NVMe driver" into your favourite search engine and study the advice. I don't think the Windows installer currently includes an NVMe driver so it trips over as soon as it tries to access the SSD.
    Have you tried booting from USB without disabling USB 3? I think the advice about disabling USB 3 refers to older (3 years?) notebooks where USB 3 was not supported in the BIOS.

    These days you have to attend to other details such as disabling SecureBoot in the BIOS.

    John
     
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