All about 5G and 6G Technologies

Is 5G SAFE?

 

Apple is reportedly in ‘advanced’ talks to buy Intel’s modem division for $1 billion or more
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/22/app...els-modem-division-for-1-billion-or-more.html
KEY POINTS

• Apple is in advanced talks to buy Intel’s 5G modem division, according to the Wall Street Journal.
• The deal could be announced as soon as next week, according to the report.
• A purchase would show Apple’s willingness to consider large acquisitions with its war chest of cash.

Bob Swan, then-interim chief executive officer and chief financial officer of Intel Corp., reacts during the inauguration of the company’s research and development facility in Bengaluru, India, Nov. 15, 2018.
Samyukta Lakshmi | Bloomberg | Getty Images

 

This was to be expected, just like high performance SSD controllers heat up with high speed NVME drives, high speed network controllers - and the internal flash controllers, will draw a lot of power and generate a lot heat to handle the much higher speeds 5G is capable of:

1:19 - We Tested 5G Across America. It’s Crazy Fast—and a Hot Mess

We Tested 5G Across America. It’s Crazy Fast—and a Hot Mess
In tests, the 5G often switched off due to summer heat, leaving our columnist to cool the devices with ice packs or air conditioners
https://www.wsj.com/articles/all-the-reasons-not-to-buy-a-5g-phone-right-now-11563467389

 

Toasty performance.

I wonder how 5G MiFi's will handle this, considering their constrained cooling capabilities.
Netgear is developing a model for this purpose: https://blog.netgear.com/blog/netge...dards-based-millimeter-wave-mobile-5g-device/

 

As always early purchases get retired as technology improves and standards are re-written or extended.

Cooling is going to be very important in base stations too, so I hope they realize that in the design and implementation, otherwise we'll need to help them along.

ATT hasn't been the best at openness about their 5g actualities, I hope this offers full spectrum support for all 5G, but what is the ethernet link speed to connect to devices? I hope it's 10G...5G?...2.5G? 1G? Or is it 5G to Wifi only? I hope it has Ethernet too.

"The NETGEAR Nighthawk® 5G Mobile Hotspot is the first standards-based mobile 5G device in the world able to access a live millimeter wave 5G network. AT&T plans to be the first to introduce mobile 5G services in the U.S. this year, doing so using our Nighthawk® 5G Mobile Hotspot. Stay tuned for more information on our latest mobile hotspot late this year."

 

Good point, considering how opaque most carriers tend to be on the fine details.

 

AT&T 5G - AT&T Foundry, here's a VR use case proposed by the AT&T Foundry.

AT&T The Foundry 5G Wireless
360Today
Published on Jul 31, 2019
AT&T's The Foundry showcases how 5G will drive wireless gameplay in VR. Utilizing the Vive Focus Plus VR Headset, I get a glimpse of the near future. Getting to be immersed in The Blu, The Whale Experience by WEVR and become The Dark Knight in Batman Arkham. The speed of 5G means that I get the same level of gameplay without having to be tethered to an expensive computer.

 

5G: Explained!

 

I can only dream about it. Very rarely I reach advertised 4G LTE speeds. For sustained speeds, I found standard Wired internet OFC to be better and consistent if LTE signals are bad because of bad weather!

 

5G issues,
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ahmedkaram_5g-activity-6589543416965791744-roeM

 

BTW, 600mhz isn't "5g" as it's not millimeter RF, or high enough speed to qualify as "faster" than 4G LTE.

600mhz 5G is a fallback band for 5g to provide coverage in the gaps between millimeter wave towers - and it will be easiest to outfit existing on existing towers, but it's not any faster than 4G LTE can be with the same investment in bandwidth or coverage.

" Millimeter waves are electromagnetic (radio) waves typically defined to lie within the frequency range of 30–300 GHz. The microwave band is just below the millimeter-wave band and is typically defined to cover the 3–30-GHz range."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/millimeter-wave

Testing Real 5G: Part 2!
Dec 5, 2019
Marques Brownlee
An exclusive first test of T-Mobile's new 600MHz 5G network
5G: Explained https://youtu.be/_CTUs_2hq6Y


I've had 125mbit-140mbit 4G LTE many times, so this "5g" ain't nothing to get excited about, and IMHO isn't 5g.

 

Just got my new 4g device and it is somewhat slower than 3G sometimes. Max speed is 42Mbps with -89dBm or 1Mbps on -100dBm.
When I went to my hometown the speed was 80Mbps w/o CA.
I feel 5G w/ more mini-towers will penetrate nook and crannies of a city/town or rural area.

 

Right now indoors I am getting 116Mbs download and 16.1Mbits upload. It varies depending on location and time of day as well.

Hopefully the 5G rollout will bring with it expanded backbone bandwidth along with higher base throughput via 600mhz 5G + much higher throughput on millimeter coverage areas.

 

Have you upgraded your S7 Edge? My dad's S7 is a Exynos version and signal drops when you're at the edge and always falls back to 2g instantly!

 

I upgraded a few months ago to a Samsung Note 10+, but I was getting similar speeds as on the S10+ when I retired the S7 Edge - I traded the S7 Edge in for a nice credit + trade-in bonus. I miss it, but the Note 10+ is nice too.

None of my phones has fallen back to 2G for a long long time...

 

Lenovo Flex 5G Review: The First 5G Laptop

 

5G technology is driven by 8 specification requirements. Source
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/markets/digital-identity-and-security/mobile/inspired/5G
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ahme...ntechnology-activity-6689883591515750400-qZ8H

 

Still we're not getting best 4g signals in my area and not even 4G+ is rolled out. I think 5G might start rolling out in metro cities.

 

Just wait for it, it's a must for the new world order digital transformation plan for 2030, they will make it happen everywhere on Earth .

 

Nokia ‘Well Positioned’ for 5G Market, CEO Suri Says

 

The Economic impact of 5G
The fifth generation of mobile networks is here, and is expected to have a bigger impact on the global economy than any previous iterations, contributing more than $13 trillion to output worldwide by 2035. According to forecasts, China is set to see the most economic gains from the roll-out, while manufacturing will be the sector that will benefit most as operators are able to ramp up production and create new revenue streams as a result of industry digitalisation.

 

Exynos 1080 5G mobile processor: Official introduction | Samsung

 

6G (network) - Wikipedia

In telecommunications, 6G will be the sixth generation standard for wireless communications technologies supporting cellular data networks. It is the planned successor to 5G and will likely be significantly faster, at speeds of ~95 Gbit/s. Like its predecessors, 6G networks will be broadband cellular networks, in which the service area is divided into small geographical areas called cells. Several companies (i.e. Nokia, Samsung, LG, Apple) have shown interest in 6G. China, South Korea and Japan also reportedly have interest. 6G will likely become commercially available in the 2030s

 

I have to go a couple of miles up the road to get a strong 5G signal, but even the 4G/LTE service totally destroys the crappy CenturyLink DSL offering in my area. My LTE upload is even faster than their DSL download speeds, LOL.

But, the 5G speeds when I am out running errands is definitely impressive. I will have to remember to save the results next time I am up the road in a 5G service area.

 

This is my 5G speed in my current location, at home it reaches 500+ download and 50+ upload.

 

yeah i just got a 5g phone, however its not available in my area but lte is fast enough for 4k streaming...i think it gets 143/3...5g is good for what exactly? i think they should put 5g sim slots in ultrabooks now that would be cool....camping lol watching 4k nature videos....man have people gotten silly

 

I agree. I do not "need" 5G for my phone. LTE is more than adequate for anything I need to do using my phone and 5G is a waste for mobile devices.

HOWEVER, I think 5G is fantastic in that it is going to bring sorely needed competition to traditional ISPs. I think it has the potential to revolutionize home internet service and restore reasonableness to a product model that is out of control and seething with mediocrity. It also has the potential to bring honest to goodness broadband to rural areas that have no option, or really horrible options. The best some people have is satellite internet and it would be an understatement to call that horrible. Satellite is only marginally better than dial-up, it is extremely expensive in spite of being horrible, and DSL is garbage.

T-Mobile is rolling out 5G home internet with a cellular modem/router for substantially less than what I pay Cox for Gigabit internet. It is not available to me at the moment, but I suspect it will be soon. The service is expanding swiftly and I believe an added tower is all the people in my area need to move from LTE to 5G and have that available as a replacement for their current ISP. As I mentioned, I only need to go about 2 miles up the road and I have an eye-watering 5G signal available.

And, I am eager to kick Cox to the curb as soon as they do. These ISPs get away with highway robbery due to lack of competition and monopolistic leverage to screw consumers. In the worst-case scenario, I will stay with Cox because the price of my Gigabit internet will be cut in half when they are forced to complete with 5G or start dropping customers like flies.

 

Still waiting for proper 4G+ in my area. I get only 4G 45-75% signal and can manage 40Mbps down and 8Mbps (Peak, sustained is far lower at sub 15Mbps down and 1Mbps up.)

Didn't know KSA deployed 5G network so quickly!