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    *** Official Sager NP8671 / Clevo P670SE - Sager NP8672 / Clevo P670SG Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Dec 2, 2014.

  1. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Scan is perfectly legit... Their prices are good however their warranty is really 1 year although they say 2 year as in the 2nd year you have to pay for postage/labour I believe... other then that, they're good :)
     
  2. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Sager now has both NP8671 and NP8672 in stock :)
     
  3. Rubix

    Rubix Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am interested in this very much, however there is just one thing stopping me now. Why do these newest models have the NVIDIA® GTX 980M [4GB] and NVIDIA® GTX 970M [3GB], instead of the 8GB and 6GB version? I would expect the newest model to have the newest and best videocard, not the older and slower ones.
     
  4. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    The 4GB/3GB variants were released at the same time as the 8GB/6GB variants. They have exactly the same GPU power as the larger VRAM variants and perform exactly the same in all currently released games.
     
  5. Support.3@XOTIC PC

    Support.3@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    These models dont have a MXM GPU, they are integrated onto the motherboard. For Sager/Clevo computers only the MXM versions have the 8GB and 6GB GPUs.

    As Cakefish mentioned, we have also not seen any difference in performance in the different vRAM models.
     
  6. tijgert

    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    Very tricky though... The three major parts that break In a laptop are the CPU, GPU and motherboard. Now if one part breaks out of warranty, the whole laptop is worthless as replacing will cost you... a new laptop.
    I'm still thinking maybe a P170SM-A would be a lot safer... But less pretty.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If you are worried you can always grab an extended warranty to get coverage :)
     
  8. Richteralan

    Richteralan Notebook Evangelist

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    Any update on IPS or 3k/4k panels?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Availability in January for the sharp 4k :)
     
  10. Richteralan

    Richteralan Notebook Evangelist

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    Sharp produces 17 inch 4k panel?

    Sent from my Nexus 9 using Tapatalk
     
  11. tijgert

    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    It then really depends on what kind of connectors the screen uses. I heard the 15.6" and 17.3" use the same motherboard so that would imply they have the same connectors inside. If it's 100% identical...
    I'll be getting my 17.3" unit in next week, can anyone shed some light on the different connectors there are so I can post my findings here?
     
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  12. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    For selected resellers - maybe (hopefully). I'll let you all know whether Scan are affected by the delay or not today. They're due to start building my unit today so we'll see. They're not a Sager reseller, just source things direct from Clevo so there's hope left that my orders safe *crosses fingers*

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
  13. SPVietBoy

    SPVietBoy Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm actually curious about screen upgrades as well.
    If I got a FHD (1080p) screen now, would I be able to upgrade to a 4k screen later (if there's a compatible one?

    Also, about the keyboard. I'm curious if there are any compatible keyboards? Just as reference. (Esp. since I'm a big fan of the steelseries 3-zone multi-color keyboard you find on MSI and certain Sager laptops which I'm assuming is not compatible?) Thanks for anything you guys can tell me.
     
  14. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    Sorry but no, 1080p displays use different connectors than 3K/4K displays. Check out P65XSG/E thread for more info.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
  15. SPVietBoy

    SPVietBoy Notebook Enthusiast

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    I see. So those laptops that have the option of a 4k display, do they usually have both connectors or is it a different version that has one or the other?
     
  16. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    Same connector different cable.
     
  17. TomJGX

    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    That would be interesting.... Maybe the 17.3" can be upgraded to the 1080p LG IPS display which is in the Asus G751... Then hopefully this upgrade gets offered by resellers :)
     
  18. tijgert

    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    So you're saying that if we can get the proper cable we can upgrade the screen in the P670SG to 4K.
    So... we procure ourselves a P650xx cable then...
     
  19. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    Currently no 17.3" 4K panel exists that's on sale to consumers.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
  20. Flam3h

    Flam3h Notebook Consultant

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    Mine has been dispatched today. :D
     
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  21. tijgert

    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    What's available today doesn't matter, it's future upgrade ability that counts. As long as it's possible, the screens will come...
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The screens will come but will they use the same connector?
     
  23. icue

    icue Newbie

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    Wow that was pretty fast. May I know the reseller you choose? Cuz I need to get it fast before I leave LA for a vacation, but I have no idea which one to buy from (LPC digital, Xotic PC, etc.) without a rush service.
    Thank you.
     
  24. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    The 15.6" ones don't unfortunately.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
  25. tijgert

    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    From what I read here te motherboard connectors are the same, it's the screen connector and therefor the cable that's different. But I think if you get a P650xx cable you're done.

    On another note: reading the P650xx/P670xx manual I see the ventilation holes on the P670 are lined up REALLY poorly with the fans. Not so much on the P650.
    This might be a problem and a source for overheating...
     
  26. thegreatsquare

    thegreatsquare Notebook Deity

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    I was just conversing with someone who was trying to push me off the 8672 for overheating due to this 8651 review.

    Clevo P651SE (Schenker XMG P505) Barebones Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews


    ...the CPU hit 100c

    I attributed it to a bad TIM job and showed him a different review from HTwingnut.

    http://www.overclock.net/messages/messages/view/id/2886646/box/7239255


    Now I wonder if vent placement is an issue.
     
  27. tijgert

    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    The P650 even seems to have better fan placement for the CPU than the P670. I can't tell however from the manual if the fan is raised from the bottom or not. If it isn't there could very well be a problem.
    Nothing my Dremel can't fix, but there's this warranty thing...

    Your link does not work...
     
  28. SPVietBoy

    SPVietBoy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ah so the main issue is that there aren't any 4k 17.3" screens out there. That's unfortunate. It would be nice to have the extra resolution for work. Ah well.
    Again, any compatible keyboards that could replace the one this comes with? If it turns out I don't like the feel of the current one?
    Also, anyone know of any reviews coming out for this? I'm currently use the one HTWingNut did on the 15.6" version as reference and basing my purchase off of it (plus specs and price) but obviously, it's not the same.
     
  29. IceBounds

    IceBounds Notebook Consultant

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    well you could mod the chassi to line up the fans. and if the system fails you can just buy another chassi
     
  30. tijgert

    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    I did that with my P170EM too, worked like a charm.
    You wouldn't need a whole chassis though, just the bottom plate.
    Trying to procure it might be more tricky if you don't want your reseller to know what you're up to. Wouldn't want to give him a potential reason to deny warranty.

    Anybody know what (other) reseller (than mine) would sell those bottom plates separately?
     
  31. IceBounds

    IceBounds Notebook Consultant

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    R&J Technology, Clevo Barebone Notebook kits, Laptop and desktop system builder sells some good stuff
     
  32. tijgert

    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, I just picked up my pretty SG!.. can't wait to get crackalakin'!!

    I call dibbs :)
     
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    IKAS V Notebook Prophet

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    Nice!
    Can you post some pics and what screen does it come with? I know it's a TN panel but how is brightness and viewing angles?
    How are temps and fan noise under load/gaming ?
    It's between this laptop or smaller brother.
    Congrats and enjoy :)
     
  34. Flam3h

    Flam3h Notebook Consultant

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    Still waiting for mine to get here. Tracking says it has now arrived in the UK (ships from Germany) so should be with me tomorrow.

    I ordered mine from MySN.

    Display
    1 x 43,9 cm (17.3") Full-HD (1920*1080) Matte
    Graphics Card
    1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M 4096MB GDDR5
    Processor
    1 x Intel Core i7-4710HQ - 2,50 - 3,50GHz 6MB 47W
    Thermal Compound
    1 x Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound
    Memory
    1 x 4GB (1x4096) SO-DIMM DDR3 RAM 1600MHz Crucial
    SSD Drive 1
    1 x No SSD
    SSD Drive 2
    1 x No SSD
    Hard Drive
    1 x No Hard Drive - An OS cannot be chosen with this option unless an mSATA drive is selected
    Optical Drive
    1 x No External Optical Drive
    WIFI Card
    1 x Intel Wireless-AC 3160 (with Bluetooth)
    Keyboard
    1 x Backlit Keyboard UK
    Warranty
    1 x Standard Warranty : 24 Month Collect & Return (inc parts, labour, support, shipping)
    Operating System
    1 x No Operating System

    Purchased separately (these should be with me tomorrow):

    512GB Samsung Pro 850
    Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB kit (8GBx2) DDR3 PC3-14900 Unbuffered NON-ECC 1.35V 1024Meg x 64 (BLS2C8G3N18AES4CEU)
    Qualcomm Killer 1525 M.2 wireless card
    Windows 8.1 Pro (already owned)
     
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    jtsigma Newbie

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    I concur, I had an Asus G751 (which I returned for this sager) and if we could install the LG IPS 1080p display I would be elated. Does anyone know the part # or model of this LG screen and where to buy it and if it will fit in the NP8672
     
  36. themaskofwraith

    themaskofwraith Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi can you do the review for the laptop
     
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    please kind sir, can you post some pics and maybe a youtube vid?
     
  38. tijgert

    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    Pics as requested http://s1069.photobucket.com/user/tijgert/library/P670SG - BTO 17CL62?sort=3&page=1

    So far I can say the screen doesn't disappoint. It's a ChiMei 173HGE. It's bright enough but full sunlight is never ideal.

    The unit feels freakin huge, but that's because it's so super thin compared to my old P170EM.
    It's WAY more stylish and the simple white backlit keyboard is a delight, also compared to the crap they dared shipping on the P170EM.

    I'll put it to the test asap, but I've been installing windows 8.1 first and getting used to that (first timer).
    When I get back home and update it and image it I'll be able to wreck the install with tests.
     
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    Thanks for the pics.

    can you tell us about these

    1)how is the audio quality and subwoofer performance
    2)I see the CPU grill isn't aligned properly is there any performance issues with that?
    3)Can you post some CPU and GPU temps.

    thanks
     
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    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    1) Far from perfect and my old Dell M1710 beats it still, but it's there and better than the previous models like the P170EM. It's sufficient but by no means THE reason to go for the P170 instead of the P150. I still use my headphones. Having said that, I don't know how good/bad the P150 sounds... HTWingnut might be more in the know there.
    2) That worried me too actually, especially since the P150 has more air vents in the bottom AND is made of metal. I don't have any temps yet, I'll be working on that soon. What I do know is that the bottom plate is raised from the fans so it draws in case air from all the sides. I'm not sure how much it gets of that since the slits and holes are few and far between, but it might be sufficient.
    I'll be testing wit the bottom plate on and off obviously.
    I'm already planning on buying a replacement bottom plate and modding it, but at this point I can't say if it's needed.

    I'll be back.
     
  41. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    That looks like a P650SE bottom panel. I love the background, very nice. Is that where you work or live? And I would edit out your serial number.
     
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    You may want to put the start menu mods in if you are a first timer
     
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    Do you have time to go through gaming temps and benching temps?
    thank you kind sir
     
  44. tfast500

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    Yes very nice I'm curious too!

    Laptop too close to water tho :p scary!

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk 2
     
  45. Noteb00kFreaK

    Noteb00kFreaK Notebook Enthusiast

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    I will receive my P670SG tomorrow yeah! :D :D :D
     
  46. tijgert

    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    If you look in the manual you'll see that the P650 (Model A) bottom panel looks quite different the P670 (Model B) panel. The vents are quite different. What did strike me as odd at first is that my P670 (model B in the manual) has chrome on the rear exhaust vent and all around the back (Design II) while that appeared to be limited to only Model A, Design II. I think it looks really nice and thought it was a nice surprise.

    I took those shots in Zanzibar, east Africa. My boss sent me there for the night so I took the opportunity to take some nice shots by the pool. (Close but not too close to the water...).
    I killed the pic with the serial, it was only to show that it had the 19v checkbox ticked instead of the 19.5v

    I still don't understand what the big whoop is with 19 or 19.5... I read about the PA-19 brick that people can use and that is 19.5...

    ....

    I'll put it all in eventually, startmenu mods, glass mods, gadget mods, theme mods, but I gotta bench this puppy first. Problem is my suitcase got lost...with my charger, so I've been busy this morning getting a new one. Also my power meter was in there so that's gotta be replaced too. Sorry for the delay fellas.

    If I wanna get any data back here soon enough I have to limit myself to Afterburner and various standard benchmark tools. Working on it...
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Any model that takes 19v should take 19.5v too to be fair, it's a very small percentage difference.
     
  48. tijgert

    tijgert Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh I know it works, I just wonder why on the bottom there would be two boxes with 19v and 19.5v and one checked. Is it just to indicate what power supply came with it so customers don't freak out or does it have a technical reason?
     
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    I'm not sure if the bricks are used for different regions and preform better depending on the input voltage or if it's inventory management.
     
  50. tijgert

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    I like to think the .5v more will add to stability when OC'ing :)
     
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