*** Official Sager NP8378f2(Clevo PB71DF2-G) ***

LM seems to make a nice improvement. I'm repasting once more w new kryonaut just to see. I don't trust myself to apply on though. That's the temps I was hoping to see more of. I had to limit my CPU to 35W to get the temps averaging high 70s w spikes in the 80s

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I went with the Kryonaut because I didn't want to reapply LM later on. Maybe I shouldn't have....

 

I meant to order it with Conductonaut, thought I had, realized once it was shipped that I'd selected Kryonaut, oh well. Still performs well.

 

UPS screwed me over.
I was off today and the weekend and my package was out for delivery today but I come to find out they said they missed delivering it to me despite me being right next to the door the whole time.
They didn't even leave a missed slip.
Now I feel like my whole weekend off is ruined.
Been waiting a month and set aside time for this but now it's all for nothing.
I don't even trust them to try delivering on Monday.
I wish GenTech did not use UPS because they are horrible.

 

In my case was the opposite. The delivery was estimated for Monday and they did it early Friday.
I'm sorry it happened that to you.

 

So did I. I didn't know what was condonaut and I chose in the CPU and Kyronaut for the GPU. I saw in a forum I must repaste in six months, probably. I will need luck

 

First world problems. I am old enough to know that when I am angry to find a way to channel that anger. So I ran a couple of miles outside and cooled down then made a phone call to UPS and had them hold the package for pick up at one of their facilities. If I was a young teen or 20 something I would have probably punched a hole in the wall when I saw the missed delivery notice. I spent a month of waiting while building up expectations so seeing the delivery date gave me hope for a 3 day weekend off to test the laptop. Been working a lot of 6 day weeks so I was looking forward to this but sometimes things don't go the way I want.

 

Oh well! It is what it is

Thats a shame man but it do just be like that sometimes. Hoping you have a kick ass weekend regardless

 

That's with a -.125 undervolt.
That's now the fastest score I've seen online for a laptop that didn't have a desktop CPU. Beats the all the Ryzen scores I've seen.

 

How did you remove the keyboard? I tried OC'ing the RAM and made it unbootable, need to remove the CMOS battery.

EDIT: Alternatively is there another way to reset the CMOS?

 

Around the edges of the keyboard are little tab clips that u need to release. You need a very tiny flat head screwdriver. Start w one of the upper corners and work your way around. If u use a flash light you can just barely see them. Once u have the keyboard off there is a single screw u can take out that will release the bottom cover. U shouldn't need to disconnect the keyboards cables.

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I think the cmos battery is your only option if it won't post.

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I got it, thanks.

 

That's a bad ass undervolt. I think mine crashed at -120. I was able to run a max of -115. I picked -100 as my normal.

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Nauz, when you get time can you run some 3d mark benchmarks? I'm curious to see how your machine does for gpu. If you can post GPU average clock rate it would be helpful. I noticed my 2070 was bouncing off it power limit constantly which kept causing the GPU to downclock hard. The constant fluctuating def hurt the performance of the 2070 super. Smoothing that out so far has given me better performance than most 2080 max q's

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/48418874?
25,314 Firestrike Graphics Score
1,801 mhz Average Clockrate

I ran the FF XV benchmark as well, scored 13,330.

 

Weirdly, if I watch during Cinebench, even at the start of the test my CPU NEVER does 4.3 GHz on all-cores. That's supposed to be its all-core turbo, Intel XTU even shows it as such, but it's capping out at 4.2 GHz, even when there's thermal headroom left.

 

All-core turbo on the i7-10875H is 4.2GHz.

 

Anybody else looking at undervolting both the cpu and gpu as well as underclocking the gpu? After reading this blog about it, the idea of reducing wattage and heat as much as possible intrigues me. Im usually the first to jump on overclocking but I think i would be willing to sacrifice up to 10% of my graphical power to have quiet fans and no throttling. The 2070 super is going to handle anything I throw at it anyway.

https://sff.life/how-to-undervolt-gpu/

 

Why is this what Intel XTU shows then?

Notebookcheck.net also states:

The Intel Core i7-10875H is a high-end processor for laptops with eight cores based on the Comet Lake architecture (CML-H, 4th generation of Skylake). The processor clocks at between 2.3 and 5.1 GHz (4.3 with all 8 cores) and can execute up to sixteen threads simultaneously thanks to Hyper-Threading.

 

I've done it w mine to get the most out of my 2070. It was a pita to get MSI afterburner to display voltage correctly, but once that's done it's fairly easy to do. I used gpu z, MSI afterburner, and 3dmark w a looping benchmark running in windowed mode to set the voltage frequency curve. The 3d mark simulates a heavy load on the GPU while the GPUz makes for a light load one. Understanding how to manipulate the voltage frequency curve is a bit abstract. Let me know if u have any questions.

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Undervolting limits your chips clock rate. You run at a slower clock speed when it's at it's power limited even if u have thermal headroom.

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I've tried removing the undervolt, still does it.

 

My 25,314 graphics score is the #1 score on 3dmark firestrike for a 2070 super in a laptop apparently. Was shocked to see that when I just checked the leaderboard.

 

Awesome, congrats! How does graphical supremacy feel?

 

Probably power/current limited then.

 

4.3Ghz is an ambitious turbo clock for the TDP.

 

Your thermals are awesome and it seems your getting excellent results from your 2070. Sounds like a home run win for you. Congrats!

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I just got my laptop and installed windows and updated it fully.
But for some reason I cannot install the latest nvidia drivers.
Windows auto installed version 442.94 but I wanted to install the updated 451.48.
Whenever I try to install the 451.48 drivers I downloaded from Nvidia's website it says ,"this graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware".
I know I selected the correct settings under the website. Which was 2070 super notebook series and Windows 10 64bit.
Anyone else have this issue?
Only way I think I can get this to work is to manually add in the device instance path information into the Nvidia installer file.

 

I just used GeForce Experience, it installed 451.48 without any issues.

That said, the sound drivers don't seem to be installed correctly for me.

Sound Blaster Atlas tells me to connect a supported device.

 

You might have to go into the control panel are reselect your default sound. It probably installed the Nvidia he audio and is using that. It won't be recognized as compatible with atlas


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Any clue OSD is?

EDIT: Seems it toggles whether caps lock, num lock, etc. show up on the screen when toggled.

 

On screen display, but what it actually does I don't know. Haven't messed with it. Does is start the clevo control panel?

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Weird suddenly I was able to install the latest drivers.
Anyone know what key to hit to get into the bios?

Also does anyone also have the issue where the nvidia control panel does not show the display settings?

 

Currently running a CPU core -80.1 and cache -125.
Might push the core more but CPU temps were only in the mid 70s when playing Monster Hunter World.

I found out holding f2 on startup boots in bios set it to use only the 2070 super and disabled SGX

 

How did you unlock voltage in msi afterburner? It's greyed out for me.

I think I have some weird kinks software-wise caused by installing Windows myself and not purchasing it preinstalled.

 

https://steemit.com/gpu/@icryptomedianews/how-to-unlock-core-voltage-in-msi-afterburner

I used this article. Just so your aware. While this will unlock the voltage slider and give you the voltage. You can not put in a negative value to undervolt. You need to play with the voltage frequency curve. Since your getting fantastic temps and great clocks already I don't see why you would want to touch the gpu.



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I would use Throttlestop to do this. I say I would because I haven't received my laptop yet.

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/31385-the-throttlestop-guide/

Edit: my cooling pad came today which was cool

 

I was actually more interested in increasing voltage when overclocking GPU, but figured unlocking the slider would be needed for either method.

Also, the cooling pad arriving amuses me, because I ordered one with the laptop, and it got canceled and refunded because they were out of stock.

 

Going to place my order this week. Is GentechPC a good place to order from? trying to make sure they don't do any shady stuff such as giving people lesser quality panels etc... or if ordering from Sager directly would be the best thing to do. Gentech is enticing with this free thermal upgrades and student discount which takes off a good bit. also which thermal solution is better for long term application and not having to repaste often between GELID GC-Extreme & Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. From my research, it seems that I am probably best off using GELID GC-Extreme since you have to repaste kryonaut more often.

 

I ordered from Gentech. Due to COVID 19 shipping takes a while.
I made my order on June 9th and my laptop was here by Jule 3rd.(although due to missed delivery I picked it up at the UPS facility on their next work day of July 6th)
Not sure if Sager would be faster.
I had my order remove the Sager branding and add diamond thermal paste and the fuji pads.
I assume they added the correct paste because my laptop runs cool only getting into the 70s while gaming and even when stressing the CPU it only gets in the lower 80s while maintaining 4.2ghz on all cores. And that stress test is not something really encountered in normal scenarios.

 

Not much point in increasing voltage. It might even hinder performance since the CPU and GPU together are already saturating the max power limit.

 

Cooling pads are shipping out oddly. I ordered one and they shipped a hard shell for an Ultrabook in a cooler box. Had to return the first.

My kryonaut came so I might get my last repaste done today. I'll take a screenshot of the voltage frequency curve I set for my 2070 in msi if your interested.

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Overvooting might actually reduce your GPU clock rate since your power limited. What I did is overclocked the GPU at lower voltages and clipped the higher voltages where it will never go. I ended up with a much higher average clock with less jitter in the clock rate bouncing off the power limiter.

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I just received mine, now what should I do? it is running very quiet, maybe because no games or test has been done!!

 

Pending shipment as of July 8th!!

 

What is your undervolt on your gpu?

 

Anyone else notice high PCH temps when gaming?
After an hour of gaming I checked my PCH temp and it got up to 87C (CPU and GPU were low 70s) normally when not doing anything the PCH hangs in the 60s.
I've heard many stories of people having their laptops die due to overheating PCH after doing a lot of gaming over a years time.
Low 80s wouldn't worry me as much but mine was nearing 90c.
In my opinion all PCH should have a heatsink. I've seen people mod their laptops with one and it drops gaming temps by 20 or more degrees.
Also noticed the NVME drive is sitting around 50c and at one point it was recorded to hit 61C.
I might stick a heatsink on the NVME if there is space for it, I doubt it already has one.

edit: Just noticed the older version of this Sager laptop (NP8358F2) has one of the heat pipes going over the PCH while the NP8358F2-S does not. I wonder if the older version had high PCH temps.

 

I let Monster Hunter World run for a while and here is the max it climbed to.
So far Monster Hunter World is the only game I had power limit throttle the CPU down to 3.7-3.8ghz.
Seems to be one of the more demanding games to run (CPU and GPU) especially while trying to getting higher fps so I thought it made a good gaming scenario test.

 

Final Tune
Performance Mode Max Fans -100 millivolt undervolt on CPU

Volt/Frequency Tune on GPU w -119 millivolt on GPU

TimeSpy 9,139 Average CPU 86C/GPU 63C
Port Royal 5,121 Average GPU 68C
CinebenchR20 3,848
Firestrike 20,410 Average CPU 77C/GPU 61C

After repasting again my CPU temps are a bit better. New paste made a difference compared to my original repaste with 2 year old leftovers.



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