*** Official Sager NP8378f2(Clevo PB71DF2-G) ***

Mine is reporting as AUO409D

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I believe that's the one but speak to sales for the latest.

 

I picked one of these up from Xotic pc for a reasonable price. Love the performance, but the CPU is a fricken toaster oven. The thermal solution, I dont think, is adequate enough.
Has anyone tried modifying the intake grills to lesson the noise?

 

The chips do run hot, have you tried an undervolt?

 

Trying throttle stop now, will post results. Thanks

 

Should help

 

Meaker@Sager
Anything I can do about this? I changed my keyboard from waving, to a static color and found this.

 

That looks like a failed LED, not much you can do about that other than a new keyboard.

 

Great, this thing is only a week old. Ive sent a support ticket to xotic pc. Maybe get a new keyboard. Didnt notice it when it was in waving mode.

 

At least it's a fairly easy swap out. As long as the rest of the machine is stable your good to go. Some people experimented with trying to get rid of the whistle but I don't know if they were successful. I knew going in this thing was going to be sour since it was so thin. One of the tradeoffs. As long as it doesn't constantly ramp up and down I find it doesn't bother me. I did shut off turbo boost and limit the cpu to 35w. Kinda wish sager made that an option. It's been a great machine for me. Very happy w the performance. Once it gets outdated in will be looking for a quieter one

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Or just a bigger/thicker one
I had a feeling also, but the price for the specs was unmatched from any other manufacturer. Being a Sager, I trusted that it would be a quality semi desktop replacement. It will do what I need it to do.

 

Meaker, is Sager planning to release a laptop with the Ryzen 9 5900HX, paired with an RTX 3070, or 3080, 17.3"? I see other manufacturers have pre-orders already...Mostly Asus.
This will be my next purchase, as the 5900HX absolutely destroys the intel 10875, in everything, and would probably require a lot less in the cooling department comparably.

 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-5900HX-vs-Intel-Core-i7-10875H/3903vs3726
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-10875H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-5900HX/m1111393vsm1449683
https://www.notebookcheck.net/R9-5900HX-vs-i7-10870H-vs-i7-10875H_13007_12757_11949.247596.0.html
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_10875h-1330-vs-amd_ryzen_9_5900hx-1856
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-5900hx-is-now-passmarks-highest-ranking-mobile-cpu

Your video compares the 5800H, not the 5900HX.

 

Extremely similar, 5800 vs. 5900 is like 10870H vs. 10875H, just small binning differences. Also 5900HX is exclusive to Asus.

 

Regardless of binning, the 5900xx series beats the Intel 10870/10875 in gaming, and stomps it in cpu intensive tasks. So I stand by my original statement. In fact, I would rather have the 5800H over either Intel counterpart. If I lose ~5-10 FPS in games, so what. Gaming laptops offer the best hardware, so I would assume most people do not use them for strictly gaming.

Also not exclusive to Asus...Just answered my original question.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2200-amd-ryzen-5900hx/

 

The new hx series CPUs are not exclusive as above. The exact scores are going to cart by machine.

No word on updates to AMD yet.

 

I got -HX confused with -HS. -HS is Asus exclusive.

 

CPU naming, always as clear as mud

 

Hi, I was wondering did this impact performance a lot, does It bottleneck?

 

It will impact CPU performance, so impact will depend on the load.

 

Nah, many people get a bit too tied up in the benchmark numbers and less with real world game performance. My cpu and gpu temos are in the 80s and my fps is around 100fps. With g sync and no noticeable stuttering what more do you truly need? I would like quieter fans next time around but I can't fault the performance. I do like the airflow from the fans that blows through the keyboard even if it adds to the whistling. It def keeps your hands cooler for long sessions. I tried gaming in quiet mode a few times and the top of the keyboard under the screen gets too hot to touch.

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@Meaker@Sager
The laptop made this sound as it stopped working on its own. What is this sound?
I rebooted and the laptop ran normally again.

 

When you said stop working what did it do exactly?

 

When I switched from Non-Optimus to Optimus, I started experiencing these symptoms on my laptop.

This laptop is a Muxed laptop, and I used it in Non-Optimus mode until this symptom appeared, then switched to Optimus mode. This symptom starts to occur after switching to Optimus mode. So I switched to Non-Optimus mode again, and this symptom disappeared.

So the conclusion I can make is that this symptom appears when IGPU is activated. It is obvious that there is a problem with the IGPU.

 

Could also be system memory instability. The IGP puts a lot more stress on that. Try with a single stick and then the other stick by itself and see if the issue persists.

 

@Meaker@Sager
When I play games, the PCH temperature achieves 108 degrees Celsius. Is this dangerous?
A little odd, the PCH chipset doesn't have a heatsink or thermal pad. Why was it designed this way?

 

Space/weight, if you are being I/O intensive you could pop a pad on it.

 

obviously, There was a reason for everything. Thanks for the reply.

 

If you can get one of those low profile ram sinks that can work too but the only thing is if the heatsink is knocked loose then you have copper inside the machine so a thick pad is safer. The TDP is not too high.

 

didnt work for me , some reason still not atlas says conect device

 

I have the same exact problem with mine, with the PCH reaching the same temps and laptop freezing and having to force shut it, I had this problem since day 1 and tried so many things to get rid of it and nothing works. I thought maybe its the heat, so I worked on it and got the GPU and CPU not to crack 70c in most games and in heavy games not more than 86c and even then the laptop would freeze and I would have to force shut, I tried in Discrete mode and MsHybrid multiple times and the same happens. The last time it happened it actually bricked my SSD 4 weeks ago, I lost the majority of my data and I had to get a new SSD costing me 300$. Now with a new OS installation and the undervolting necessary, the problem is worse than before. Now I know it's not software-related as I tried everything, it's been just months of pain dealing with this. When I got it the first time I had to get a replacement for this exact problem and they assured me it was replaced and won't happen, but here I am with the supposedly "replaced" product a year down the line and have been dealing with the problem for months and it just never ends. Now I am worried it will ruin my new SSD so I am taking extra measures.

 

What happened to the original SSD, would it refuse to detect any more?

 

It had the system, and after the last BSOD, the system wouldn't start anymore, after trying everything to fix windows with no luck, I booted through Linux and got some data off but most of it was useless data with only names and each time I would try to get somewhere with it, it would unmount and stop showing, later I did a clone but it still gave the same issue and my mistake is, I should've done a clone first before trying to fix anything. I think all the other stuff I used to try to recover first has caused the SSD data to be destroyed at a faster rate. What finally told me that there is no hope for this is when I tried to install a fresh copy of windows at the end by doing a low-level format and that didn't work too, I tried different tools to delete anything off of it but nothing works.

 

I would have sent it off to the manufacturer, a BSOD should not do that to a drive.