*** Official Sager NP8378f2(Clevo PB71DF2-G) ***

No VRM sensor, since the power can't really be adjusted it will be fine so long as the pads are making contact.

 

Explain please

 

You need unlock bios.
Because you must have access to Power and performance -> CPU Power management control -> CPU VR settings.

 

Who did you order from? I can only change ram timings

 

There are bios moder on the Win-raid forum. They unlocked the bios.

 

Never been over there. You have a link?

 

https://www.win-raid.com/

 

You'll want to be careful and slow with power modding. You can end up going pop.

 

Ya I'm not doing it. No worries. This thing already sings,.just using ThrottleStop and msi afterburner

 

So far the only way to unlock power is to do a shunt mod. I'm thinking about doing it but I need to locate the shunt resistors first.

 

It's very easy to go very far with those.

 

Got a problem ext monitor low gpu usage IGPU bug. This is repeatable tried 2 different Clevos with said games

Only happens on two games that I know Shadow of the tomb raider and marvel avengers (same devs btw). Games like Warzone (95fps at 1440p) and Divison 2 run fine with ext monitor

I've tried so many different things. Making sure it's not a duplicate screen. Changing Nvidia power management to performance. Also set physx to my 2070 super. Forced Cuda gpu to my 2070 super

Nothing is working. It gets so bugged up even when unplugging monitor and going back to laptop screen still sub 20fps until I do a reboot. Problem is reboot only fixes laptop screen. No matter how many reboots on ext monitor it bugs out. And won't ever run right on ext monitor

It's clearly either using only igpu and/or duplicating screen. I have my gpu set to discrete not Optimus / ms hybrid.

I've checked device manager says it's using 2070 super under display

What else can I do? This is really frustrating. And why only these games. The other few I have warzone, divison 2, star wars old republic, forza horizon 4 dont do this.

I'm worried other games may start to do this and my new dell S2721DGF is gonna go to waste. Like cyberpunk etc or anything new

Edit: again on laptop screen same settings it runs perfectly fine. Like 90+fps. As soon as I use Ext monitor sub 25fps with those two said games

 

Hi Folks,
Considering purchasing this from GenTech and have a couple questions for the community.
Thank you very much for any reply.

1) Is the fan noise/high pitch whistle still an issue or has this been corrected on recently built laptops? If it is an issue, is the consensus that changing the default fan profiles to be a linear straight line mostly resolves the issue? Or is there not any real resolution?


2) GenTech offers a plethora of free cooling options for the paste/pads. I was planning to adding the pads automatically as there is only one option. However for the paste, I really don't know which option is best. Is there consensus on what paste options for the CPU/GPU are superior for this laptop?
Please note that I'm looking for a paste option that A) Does not require a second application in a few months in order to be fully effective (I've heard this is necessary for liquid metal options?) and B) Will last the lifetime of the laptop, or at least 3 years.

Options are:
GELID GC-Extreme on CPU/GPU

IC Diamond on CPU/GPU

Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra on CPU/ IC Diamond on GPU

Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU/ Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut GPU

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut on CPU/GPU

Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU/ IC Diamond on GPU


Thank you!

 

So no one has issues with finger print reader? I can program the finger print through Windows 10 Hello but very difficult to log in with finger print. Anyone?

Also how come Sager website doesn't keep the drivers up to date? I have checked Clevo's website and they about the same. Any place where I can get newest and greatest drivers?

Thanx in advance!

 

In the PB70EF-G the fans are reasonable up until 70%+ RPM. There is a higher-pitch air noise at near maximum RPM. I somewhat negated this by raising the laptop off the desk as well as removing the rear grill shrouds on my personal unit. I've read in the PB70DF2-G model there were changes to the cooling design to reduce high-rpm air noise but I have not personally heard this model.

I do not think there is a thermal paste out there that will reliably last 3 years. It somewhat comes down to personal preference, but I change the paste every 6 months at most and usually see a 2-3C drop in temps between changes due to the paste degrading/squishing out. I daily heat cycle the laptop which "uses" the life of the paste as it is considered a wear item of the machine.

I'd recommend finding maybe once a year (depending on needs/temps), in this order of preference; a friend who could repaste it as you watch, a reputable PC shop to repaste it that is familiar with modern laptops, or simply shipping the unit back to GenTech for a repaste when needed. With the right tools and method they're designed to be opened and worked on.

 

I successfully shunt modded the laptop and got a bump of ~12% performance on gpu using 0.02 ohm resistors on top of the original shunts. Now I'd like to know if there's any 330w PSU compatible with this laptop ? I already have an old 330w Clevo PSU but it's a 4 pins connector. Maybe there's an adapter that would work ?

 

Hello good people,
I tried to find this info in this topic, but been through all 57 pages and no luck (I tried user manual from sager and no luck aswell)

I really want to know if this laptop supports XMP and is able to run RAM with 1,35v
for example to be able to use Crucial BallistiX 16GB SO-DIMM DDR4 3200MHz CL16 (BL2K8G32C16S4B)
in order to run this ram with 3200/cl16 it needs XMP so that is why I am asking this

Do you know if this ram modules will work in this specific laptop? Crucial BallistiX 16GB SO-DIMM DDR4 3200MHz CL16 (BL2K8G32C16S4B)

 

Hello, yea that will work for sure, I have 1,35v 3000Mhz ram that run without any problem using XMP profile. Though the ddr4 frequency listed for the 10875h is at 2933 mhz, so I don't know if you'll be able to run it at 3200. When I check in my system, it says that ram speed is 2933, but the configured ram speed is 3000. So I don't know which one I should trust.

 

Thank you very much for your answer! I will order this then and hope it works Crucial BallistiX 16GB SO-DIMM DDR4 3200MHz CL16 (BL2K8G32C16S4B)

I have one question regarding this XMP, how do you enable it in this laptop?

 

You just have to go in bios settings > Advanced > Overclocking menu > Memory and from there you can choose which profile to use for your ram (for me I have Default profile, Custom, XMP profile 1 and XMP profile 2). That's how it is on my end.

 

That's quite a high voltage on that XMP profile considering the speed and CAS latency.

 

Hello, what parametrs for ram for this model do you consider the best?

 

Just for the ram in general, you would have to tweak it to see how it goes but it suggests the starting chips might not be good.

 

Any tips to get rid of this high pitch fan noise?
I noticed that this high pitch sound is from CPU side, I checked in control center by setting fan speed to max and this high pitch is so annoing I am not able to use this laptop longer than 15 minutes when this noise is on, it is giving me terrible head pain.
I am going to return this laptop or ask reseller in my country (Hyperbook) to fix it because it is a big NO for his laptop.
I do not know what is causing this, I mean GPU fan at max speed is loud sure, but it is completely normal air noise for gaming laptop, but this CPU fan is additionaly making this high pitch noise ARGH! this high pitch is gicing me physical pain seriously

 

Got a recording?

 

Here is video

 

Been a few months since I posted. I did end up returning this notebook within the 30 day window due to the fan's whining sound and the fact that its running temperatures for even simple tasks would spike into the mid 80s guaranteeing maximum fan noise even while doing things like writing code.

It took a while for the refund to process, but it did go through eventually so I really can't complain about that.

I'm curious though, if anyone here has tried the Sager NP9670M-G3. I have a suspicion that the THICC body style might afford it better thermal performance at similar workloads, and potentially have fewer odds of being subject to the same particular fan whistle. Is it notably better or at least any different from the np8378f2?

 

Thicker fans by nature are lower pitched.

 

I have the 15.6inch version of this laptop and the fan whine is not that bad.
The cooling is A+ especially for a laptop.
During demanding games the GPU is usually in the upper 60s and low 70s Celsius and the CPU is usually in the 70s.
Only thing that gets higher than that is the PCH which for some reason is bare in this laptop. A simple heatsink would go a long way...

I even stress tested the laptop by running a Heaven benchmark for the GPU stress and at the same time running AIDA64 CPU stress test and the CPU topped out at 81C while averaging around the 70s.
This is much more demanding than any normal scenario and it still kept decent temps.

 

It looks like your GPU is barely being used in that test, probably because you had Heaven minimized.

 

Nah it was being fully utilized. You can see it was currently drawing 108 watts when the pic was taken and Heaven benchmark was not minimized it is in window mode behind the other windows.
When the picture was taken it was running for 23 minutes and 31 seconds.
I used the settings in this video.

 

I wonder why the average GPU load was only 73% then.

 

Not sure why. It was running at 100% usage when I looked at MSI afterburner.
Having it in window mode and click out of and back into the window didn't seem to drop frame rate at all.
I've ran that test multiple times and had the same results.

 

Is your RAM running in single channel?

 

Nope I have two sticks running in dual channel.

 

Sounds like something is limiting it.

 

Nothing is limiting it. MSI Afterburner says it is at 100% usage and performance is equal to benchmarks shown of the same gpu.

 

I suppose it depends what the average period was and if it included no load points, there is often a little dip between scenes.

 

Question about these, been reading quite a bit about the noise being an issue. In reality how noisy are the fans at speed? I'm looking to replace a Powerspec 1710 that is finally giving up and I'm having difficulty determining if it is similar or not to the noise, which is very noticeable on the 1710.

That or I was looking at the NP8373F2, but I thought I read it was a bit thinner and made the fans have a higher pitch. Any insight about overall noise would be great between them, I often play near someone and don't want to mess them up too badly.

 

If noise is anywhere on your radar, don't buy. Replaced my RMAd unit (which was another dud mind you) with an Asus Strix G17 and my god, what a difference. Cost the same MSRP to MSRP too.

 

That is very interesting, in the last few minutes all the sites I was looking at pulled this model from listings.

 

Its probably EOL due to being Nvidia 2000 series and Intel about to replace the 10 series. They are doing you a favor.

 

I will admit, I'm not the smartest and most up to date on this. From what I saw it looked like the 2070 was performing a bit better than the 3060. Is there a card I should look for instead?

 

I would look for something with a 3070 in it. The biggest win of the Strix vs this is the processor. The 10875H ran hot as balls. The GPU for the most part had good temps, but the CPU would thermally saturate the cooler and make the GPU run at the same temp over extended play times if the game was CPU intensive at all. Like I said though, you can get a G17 for the same price this thing was.

 

Makes sense, if you don't mind which G17 did you look at. I see several different ones. Some with a 2070 and some with 3070. The 3070 is a bit out of my preferred price range tbh.

 

It is confirmed that this model has been phased out by Clevo. There is no specific replacement for it coming. Sorry.

 

While the fan volume is loud at speed, it isn't the volume that's the issue. It's the specific high pitched whistle the fans produce. It was also nearly always at full speed. Copying files? Full fan speed. Opening youtube? Full fan speed. Editing text files? Full fan speed.

I have a different machine that can get equally loud at full speed but without that specific pitch, and it's just fine so I stick with it.

I had to return this notebook after only 3 days because the sound was unbearable.

 

Which screen panel is it using for 1080p 144hz? how many nits are the brightness?

 

That can depend on the reseller, best to ask the specific place.

 

What panel is Sager using?