*** Official Sager NP8170/Clevo P170HM Owners Lounge ***

Same. I ordered on 1/25, but they said they were getting a shipment of 8170s this week. I really don't wanna be put on back order, or the wait will be the end of me.

 

I see I'm not the only one....

 

Make that three.

 

Hmm... I think you will be on the back order....

1/25 is this week...... sad to say...

 

Not sure where everyone else ordered from, but wondering why XoticPC called one person, but not others? I'll be happy either way to get that email. I'll finally stop vascillating if I should revise something in my order or the longer it goes, cancel and wait for 6970...

 

I think they call everyone when their order is ready to assemble just to make sure everything in your order is correct. I received a call also.

 

Not all of our customers post here on NBR. Customers maybe contacted for several reasons due to payments being processed, problems with payment or other reasons. If a customer has already submitted payment a customer may not be contacted via Phone.

As for your other questions on tracking, Saturdays tracking #'s would be from Friday's shipment. Tracking #'s are sent after shipment is made.

 

Awesome! Thanks Justin. Crossing fingers...

 

NP! Your in good hands htwingnut

 

I ordered mine 1/24 and was told today that mine should arrive either the third or fourth week of February meaning I'm on back order. That should give them sufficient time to thoroughly check out my system for any problems.

 

It just surprises me that after all the laptops I've ordered, there's always a signficant delay. By significant I mean > 2 weeks. I'm rarely happy with stock configurations, although for netbooks that's about all you can get. But it seems they should either wait a bit longer until they get stock on hand to fulfull pretty much all pre-orders, or not take pre-orders at all. It only seems to agitate the customer.

Aside from that getting a new laptop is like having a conjugal visit with your hot wife every year because you're as homely as Boy George. It's exciting and fun to do. And even more rare than Christmas because for most people it happens only once every few years! (Ok I'm a geek).

 

Still nothing and I ordered mine on 1-9-2011 D:

I'll be calling xotic pc tomorrow

 

Matte screen option
Has anyone ordered this for their unit? I have been using Matte screens on laptops only for many years now. The glossy screens scream glare and headache. But I wonder how good the matte screens are?
For a $220 option that's a LOT of money, enough to buy an external monitor.
I'd like to see more info on the Matte screens versus Glossy. Ideally i'd like to see a RGBLED option for Sager.

 

At least wait until Saturday. They said a tracking number will be sent out on Saturday for units shipping on Friday. Sounds like if you ordered a GTX 485m laptop this is the first time they are shipping.

 

I use my Sager NP9260 primarily for software development. I usually have VMWare Workstation running to run a Windows client but plan on virtualizing the actual Linux server (for compiles) to run under VMWare as well.

How significant is the bump between the 2630QM, 2720QM, and 2820QM in this kind of environment?

 

@Cheesus:
To my experience, VMware virtual machines are much more limited by storage than by raw CPU power. As a workaround, I run Linux guests on a Win7 host with physical disks, not virtual ext4 disks on top of Win7 NTFS.

For my new lappie I have ordered two Momentum XT disks (hybrid ssd). The machine will be dual-boot, one HDD to boot Linux and one HDD to boot Win7. Inside Win7 I use VMware for simple Linux stuff. THis will give me max flexibility: either boot straight into linux for the raw power or run it as vmware guest but with the same physical disks.

I have selected the 2920XM becuase of simulation speed. I wouldn't expect a significant impact on software development when choosing lower speed types. What might help though is the slightly larger cache of the 2820QM, it all depends on your software design environment

 

If you use virtualization features like VT-d then get a 2720qm or better because 2630qm doesn't support it. It also doesn't support AES hardware encryption/decryption.

Check out this comparison:

Compare Intel® Products

You might want to consider more RAM though, even 16GB (4x4GB) would be great to use with VM's. But I'd buy it myself not configured at the reseller. Newegg.com has 20% off RAM right now, 8GB will cost about $70-$75 at the moment.

 

apparently you can now opt for the matte screen option from xotic pc, costs more and takes longer to ship tho.. :/

 

Yea, we can do mattes too, for cheaper and doesn't add any time to your build. Just FYI

 

The 6970M is up for order, on the M17X R3. It's only on the UK site for now, at a 200 pound premium over the 460M.

That should translate to just over $100 USD.

 

Wow, it's not $66 Eurocom cheap from the 460M, but $100 is still an extremely great offering.

 

I expect about $150. That's still $349 than the 485M.

I'm still not sure about whether I'm willing to give up Nvidia's drivers, and the custom tools, like Nvidia Inspector.

 

If the 6970 is up for order, does that translate to sager offering it sooner than expected (March)?

 

THANKS! CPU features drive me nuts.

And is it true that the default 8GB from most resellers is in the "hard to get to place"?

pa3bgr, I'm considering an SSD for the primary drive and regular SATA for the secondary/storage. Given that my current 160GB X25-M free space bumps it at around 20GB, I was planning on running the VMs from the secondary. Would a hybrid drive help VM performance?

 

I dunno. Sager said 2 to 3 weeks before Clevo hits mass production, and that was about a week ago.

As they don't give an ETA, I'm sure Dell is treating this as a preorder. AMD probably gave them the green light to start taking orders. I still expect Clevo to receive them around the same time, somewhere in February to early March.

 

Actually 1 pound is worth $1.59. SO that would make it $318 more than the 460M.

 

Don't do a GBP -> USD conversion. It doesn't work like that, especially with companies products. They aren't typing 200 GPB into a currency converter to set their pricing.

With Dell, EU pricing is always overpriced compared to what we get in the US.

 

200 pound expect add usd 300 to 350 so price is high and gtx 470 wont get a cut damn it

ppl are saying they cant oc the 2920xm in p150hm why is that?

ppl with 2920xm in p170hm can you guys oc it? 2920xm @ 3.5 ghz will surely beat i7 975 desktop at 4.00 ghz i think

 

You can't OC the 2920xm in the P150HM because the HM65 chipset does not allow overclocking, only the HM67 chipset in the P170HM allows for overclocking, along with RAID.

 

Hope you are right.

 

The UK M17x starts at £1,999.00, while the US model is just $1,499.00, even though the Pound is stronger.

That's why you should be confident of the 6970M being significantly cheaper in USD.

 

Woot! Phase 2, assembly, testing, and QA... Of course doesn't that take a few days. Oh well, progress at least!

 

Jealous. By the time taxes clear, and my order goes in, I'll be backordered into March.

 

Yeah but atleast you might get the option to get it with the 6970M!

 

Can't wait for the 6970. Arrgggggg. I'm not going to get my lap top till June at this rate.

 

I'm still deciding on whether I'm willing to give up the comfort of Nvidia drivers.

I trust Nvidia to keep my GPU optimized and performing well. Is that worth $300 more to me? I'm not sure.

 

Hello,

here is a review of the P170HM in the german "notebookjournal.de":
Schenker Notebook XMG P701 Notebook im Test Mehr als nur Desktop-Replacement auf notebookjournal.de

Have fun! ;-)

 

Interesting how the benchmarks show the NP8170 running GTA4 and Mafia 2 10 fps faster than the NP8150 despite having a weaker sandy bridge cpu and how they both use the 485M. Maybe the cpu cooling is significantly better in the NP8170 and allows it to stay at a higher clock for a longer amount of time.

When I think about the ATI 6970 benchmarks with the 1st gen i7 processors, I think the sandy bridge cpu might actually make a significant difference in GTA4 and Mafia 2 benchmarks at least.

 

The tester says that the 2920xm throtteled down sometimes in the P150HM because of too much heat...
Notebookjournal.de also write that the difference is so small for the "normal user" that they strongly recommend the 2630qm...

 

Can you translate what they are saying about the display? (briefly of course . I see they don't seem to love it, curious what they are saying. Thanks!

 

Hey, Tirenz, what do they say about the audio? How is it?

 

Of course, I give it a try:
The display is the HannStar Display (HSD173PUW1) what was used before in the W870CU and has a very good contrast (937:1), but the display seems to be not very bright (131 cd/m²), but they think a BIOS update should solve that problem and bring back the full brightness.

 

The audio seems to be not yet fully supported by the drivers:
Every speaker shows up in the panel but the media player does not recognize the system as a whole unit and so the sound is not very good and a little bit too low. Only good thing for now: no sound distortion...
They hope new drivers will solve the problems...

 

Thanks, appreciate the translation

 

Yeah but like the other user said you may have the option for 6970.

That was part of my dilemma too. I've been using nVidia in three laptops GeForce Go 6200 (???), 8600m GT, GTX 260m, and for the most part has been pretty good. I had a bad experience with ATI drivers in the Envy 14 and also with a Lenvo U330. I think ATI is better for desktop drivers but so far ATI notebooks have left a bad taste in my mouth.

 

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Kind of sucks. I ordered mine the 10th and they put it in phase 1. Doesn't look like mine will ship out until the next set of shipments. I'm sad now

 

It all depends on your configuration. You may still get an email Saturday saying it shipped today (Friday).

 

Look at the 1080p scores, 2920XM vs 2630QM, and you'll see why I've been telling people to stick with the base CPU.

 

Hmmm...the Sager is louder on idle and even on battery mode with energy saving mode than the G73 is in full load...bummer...

It is 8 dB louder in full load than the G73, that means it is perceived as twice as loud...