*** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

Also to add to what I just posted... we now will offer DDR3 1600 Memory!
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Sweet, I just talked to MALIBAL, and this *is* a Sager upgrade, so it sounds like all resellers should probably get the option (they didn't do any screen upgrades when I got mine, even though a lot of others did). Now to open a ticket and get mine sent in for the upgrade! Makes me glad most of these guys offer free shipping and free labor.

 

We now carry the 95% NTSC Color Gamut Screens as an upgrade as well! Today was a good day.

 

Thanks, it was driving me nuts even the xoticpc support will be recommending this, as for firefox what problem in particular? I think they use 3D card for accelerated rendering in the browser so could be something to do with that?

 

great! could you post the monitor names of the 95% matte and glossy?
these are the auo screens i suppose. i always get confused which version is which.

 

^ B156hw01 V.4

 

so this is 95% matte or glossy?

 

The AU Optronics B156HW01 V4 (H/W:0A) screen is a anti glare Matte type and has a 95% NTSC Color Gamut. You can email me if you would like the spec sheet.
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so what is the difference between v4 and v5? isnt v5 the 95 matte that everyone was raving about?

 

They were probably refering to the 17.3 B173HW01 V5, this is the matte screen ones are using in the NP8170 and other 17.3 machines. The AUO B156HW01 V5 (H/W:0A) is a gloss type and has a 60% NTSC Color Gamut.

The AUO B156HW01 V7 is a gloss having a 95% NTSC Color Gamut.
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thanks! i always mix up the v4 and v5 betwen the 8150 and 8170 .
they really should sticky that screen comparison thread.

 

Awesome. This is what I asked MALIBAL, but I think my message got there around closing time, so I'll hear back in the morning. Just need to wait for them to let me know how/when to send in my Lotus for the 95% glossy upgrade!

Thanks for the heads up babyhemi. Thankfully my Thinkpad x220 comes in this week so I won't be without a laptop until my upgraded screen is installed.

Does anyone know how the 95% color gamut screen compares to the IPS screen in the x220?

 

The V.4 is Matte and the glossy will likely be a V.7. The Model # on the Glossy is not 100% certain yet. I will be sure to update as soon as it is confirmed with Clevo.

 

The 95% Matte Screen is a B156HW01 V.4. The 95% Gloss Screen is a B156HW01 as well but we don't know the V# yet.

 

Hi folks,

just a quick and maybe silly question

If i operate my P150HM with the batteries the 3D performance is much worse as if i operate it with the powercord. Is this a normal behavior ?

Anything i can do to get the same 3D performance on batterie as on the powercord ?

Best regards,
Manuel

 

Yes, this is expected behavior. The CPU and GPU both downclock dramatically on battery power. The battery can't power both at full speeds, so they downclock to give longer run times. You can probably change the windows settings to run the CPU at higher speeds on battery, but it may not be possible to get the GPU at full speed while unplugged.

 

This is my first post here, though I've been lurking this particular thread for a while now, as I have an np8150-S1 on order with xoticpc.

Anyways, today I received an email from xoticpc informing me that they are out of the matte 95% gamut screen I originally ordered, and offered to install a 60% gamut screen instead for $100 dollars less ($150 instead of $250 according to the email,) no dead pixel guarantee included.

This seems shady to me, as I remember the 95% color gamut upgrade being more than $100 dollars more than the original matte screen upgrade, but I can't view what the pricing scheme was when I ordered originally.

It's upsetting to me that the new $95 95% gamut screen came out when I haven't even received my laptop yet, and now Xotic has me feeling like they're trying to rip me off in addition to that. I feel like I should be receiving the new lower price considering they're acting like they haven't even begun the screen build part of my order, and here they are telling me that I might not even be able to get the expensive screen upgrade that I originally paid for.

Does anyone remember the numbers for Xotic's old screen upgrade scheme?

 

^ I'm with you on that one. They seem like they don't value your business and trying to squeeze every penny out of your pocket. I'm going through LCD RMA due to dead pixels problem and the second LCD I got has 1 or 2 defective pixels (partially lit/dim) and they are asking for hi-res pictures and what not instead of just sending me another one and taking the loss 'cause of sh!tty QC on their part like a man.

 

Hmmm, that's a bit average...

 

That is crappy. I'd cancel the order or refuse the shipment and reorder if it's cheaper that way. I don't know the original pricing though, but iirc it was ~ $250 for the high color gamut screen.

 

Same issues here, running fully patched except SP1, on W7 64bit.

 

Hey everyone,
I'm almost sold on purchasing the P150hm, most likely with the 6970 ATI graphics card, however I got a question before I proceed with the transaction.

It comes standard with the i7-2720, however would you downgrade to the 2620 and instead upgrade the monitor to the B156HW01 V4?

Also, if anyone has general comments regarding the laptop that would be great. I will mostly use it for schoolwork, gaming, internet browsing and am hoping that I'm making the right choice here.

Cheers.

 

Looks like I'm not alone here. I might be sending my laptop to RMA in July as suggested by their techsupport team.

 

The P150HM actually comes stock with the i7-2630, the i7-2720 is an optional upgrade from stock. As for the monitor, the v.4 should be listed as a new "95% color gamut matte" upgrade option for $95 on most reseller websites (as of two days ago when Sager made it an official upgrade). The 95% color gamut glossy is also an option at the same price.

If you're planning to game on the machine, the 6970 will be your bottleneck long before the 2630qm processor. However, if you want to do CPU intensive tasks like Virtual Machines and video encoding, you will see a benefit in upgrading.

 

Hey Malibal#2, do u possess some info about future screen udgrade options in Sager models? i've just heard B156HW01 V4 has been discontinued by AUO and only a few ebay sellers offer such screens, they should run out pretty quick. Perhaps Sager has made an agreement with AUO and a price of +95$ to the stock screen suits both companies, and supply was reestablished!

 

Does anyone have problems with "Ghosting" in the keyboard? When I play COD I try to hold down the "G" key, (to cook a nade) and if I press the "W" key (to move forward" I can run forward (All this while cooking a grenade, so remember I have the "G" key pressed) BUT if I try to press, for example, the "A" or "D" keys, to strafe left or right, while holding the "W" and "G" keys, My "A" or "D" keys do not let me move left or right. I remain running forward, so the "A" or "D" keys I hold are "Ghosted" out. So, long story short, If I am holding down a button on my keyboard, it seems that I can only press, at max, 2 keys at the same time... Like "G" and "W", but when I include a 3rd button like "A" or "D", those buttons have no effect... any ideas?? BTW I own a Malibal P150HM Lotus. Just purchased a week ago. Thanks in advance!

 

We do not have any info on future upgrades.

 

After a little email dialog, xotic found one of the 95% gamut screens I ordered and is shipping tonight. I'm too excited to unbox this beast.

Specs:

Screen: 95% Gamut 1980x1080 matte LCD
CPU: i7-2820QM, 2.3-3.4GHz, 8MB L3 Cache
GPU: ATI HD6970 2048MB
RAM: 8,192MB DDR3 1333MHz
Hard Drive: 500GB (w/ 4GB SSD Memory) Seagate XT 7200RPM NCQ Hybrid Drive
Disk Drive: 6X Blue-Ray Burner/Reader /8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive

I'm gonna do a crazy modded Oblivion install as soon as I have a day with this thing to myself...

 

*Bump***Bump*

 

Yes. This is a known issue. That is the limitation of the keyboard.

 

Time to use the ram heatsinks i have around the house.

have to replace the thermal paste to get a good temp measurement here, but it seams this helped the gpu down from 100 to 90c in furmark



i will post more result after i get my ic diamond, and then see if this is worth the effort.

does anyone else have any experience with heatsink modifications like this? was wondering if it could have a positive or negative effect to add theese heatsinks on the heatpipes as well.

 

Thanks for the reply.
The reseller I'm going to purchase from has the i7-2720 as standard, however after inquiring, it's approximately a $60 AUS saving to downgrade to the i7-2620.

Here's a link to the page:
Logical Blue One - Clevo Horize P150HMA ATI Gaming Notebook

And here's the monitor upgrade:
Logical Blue One - MATTE LCD 1920x1080 for Clevo P15***

There is talk that this monitor is almost out of stock and that the 95% colour gamat glossy's may be the next batch purchased, so I'm trying to decide before the matte screens run out (provided I end up choosing matte)

I don't use any Virtual Machines or Video Encoding software from what I know, I only edit basic videos from time to time which wouldn't require much.

Is it really worth downgrading to a i7-2620 for only a $60 saving? Alternatively, I want to choose the windows 7 option, however I wouldn't be able to choose both the monotior upgrade and windows 7. Anywhere else where i can purchase windows 7 for cheaper? even though $99 seems like quite a fair price.

Is the difference in the stock monitor and the upgrade quite noticeable?

Thanks.

 

As for the processor savings, it's hard to say. A $60 savings may not be worth it depending on your usage (the extra power is still useful, but up to you). For Windows 7, $99 is about the cheapest I've ever seen it elsewhere. Full retail editions sell for $200-500 depending on editions/bundling, whereas the $99 version is what's known as an "OEM" edition which is tied to your hardware specifically. (Most retail editions allow for x number of re-installs, and installing to other machines provided only one is currently installed at a time). A student copy of Windows 7 is the only other possibility, or access via MSDN/MSDNAA/Technet, assuming you're following the listed ToS on each of those*. If you're not part of those specific programs or a college student, and your place of employment doesn't offer any specific discounts- $99 is the standard OEM price.

This thread should help with your decision on the screens though:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...-between-different-screen-options-photos.html

* They are actually pretty restrictive, so be sure to check them if you are in fact eligible for these programs.

 

I noticed the keyboard limitation when playing Crysis (first game I installed). Why must they have these quirky limitations on this otherwise great laptop? Also, this is the first time I've seen this discussed unless I missed it before. Is this a hardware or software problem and do they have any intention to fix it? This being a gaming laptop and all, you would think they wouldn't screw up things that would make gamers angry.

 

^ Is the remedy for it - using separate keyboard?

 

I remember seeing isues with this on keyboards before. Check out this link:

Computer keyboard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Seems purely mechanical/hardware related. It's just a matter of poor layout with the contacts for the keys not allowing more than 3 key presses.

 

I'm not sure if that would remedy it or not. Using a separate keyboard defeats my entire purpose for purchasing the laptop. I already have a gaming rig that I use when at home.

As far as my issue went, it was much less than 3 simultaneous key strokes. It was two. I couldn't do anything else at the same time as strafing and running. If I was shooting and running, I couldn't strafe. I didn't have that problem on any other system.

 

Easiest remedy is probably to just rebind the problematic key.

 

I did a bit of research on the student Windows 7 'upgrade' that is available to students in Australia and would probably be able to qualify, however would there be any significant restrictions on this version, compared to the $99 copy.
At this stage I might opt to upgrade the screen and leave the processor as it is. Would Windows XP suffice for the time being? I can always get Windows 7 down the track or once I have explored this student deal in more depth.

Also, I will be sure to ask the retailer I plan to purchase from the issue of warranty, however I have a general question. A 1 year warranty already applies to the product, however it is an additional $99 to extend this to 3 years. Are the Clevo's generally reliable, and if I do require extended warranty, is it possible to upgrade this down the track, or once my initial warranty has expired? It may differ in Australia in comparison to the US, but doesn't hurt to ask here.

Thanks.

 

It's not just a single key, it's the fact that you can't hold down more than two keys at once and have it execute. I guess modifier keys are different otherwise you wouldn't get ctrl-alt-del or ctrl-shift-esc to work.

 

^ That's pretty poor form for a gaming laptop...

 

@HTWingnut

HT does your 8170 have the same keyboard issue ? "ghosting" when 2 keys is pressed at the same time ?

Thanks in advance

 

Hey I noticed you're buying from Logical Blue One. I have a user review for the NP8150 that was from them and also pictures of the 95% Gamut Matte screen upgrade from them too. Feel free to check it out on my signature Although I am using the GTX 485 instead, might be closer to what you'd might expect.

 

Hey mate,
Yeh I read that review a few weeks ago, great insight and it has brought me one step closer to purchasing this system.
The 95% matte screens are currently half price and I am contemplating upgrading to the GTX 485 as a result of the price cut. The only problem is that these discounted monitors may have faults, a few dead/stuck/bright pixels. What is the ultimate effect of these, do they have a large impact on the monitor?
Should I opt for the new 95% glossy monitor instead?
After looking around I found a Windows 7 student version for $65 including the disc delivery, so cheers to Malibal for that information.

I'm pretty excited to be finally purchasing a laptop after months and months of delaying it. I just hope I'm making the right choice.

 

I do not think that it's discounted for the reason that they have faults; a large load of these matte screens are being delivered to resellers (might be a reason though). They do not impact any performance wise issues, but stuck/dead/bright pixels can be annoying if you choose to look at it, especially if you have more than 1.

Glossy/matte is your choice, but I personally suggest the matte because seriously, it is really really beautiful to look at

 

Logical Blue One - MATTE DISPLAY FOR CLEVO P15****
On the link it says:

'These panels have a maximum of 1 dead/stuck/bright pixel. We cannot guarantee that the panel will have no faults and this is why they are now discounted by 50%.'

Chances are there is probably nothing wrong with them, but it still raises some concerns as I'm going to be paying close to $2000 and I certainly don't want a screen that spoils the whole appearance of games/movies, etc.

Apparently the Glossy 95% gamut colour monitor has better colours and such, however the matte would definitely be useful for sitting outside or in a room full of windows. Is glossy entirely unbearable in areas of light?

You are right though, I downloaded some images from a link to the LBO site, which shows the matte screen 95% next to the stock screen. It is absolutely stunning, to say the least.

 

I wouldn't recommend using XP, you're going to have a very tough time finding all the drivers for the hardware under XP (not necessarily impossible, but it'll take some work). For example, I'm fairly certain the 485m doesn't have any Nvidia certified drivers under XP (the 460m does though). If you plan on having Windows 7 soon, you may have more luck running linux in the meantime (Ubuntu is free and simple to set up if you don't have much experience).

As far as restrictions on that copy of Windows, that depends on the retailer. It may be an upgrade only copy or limited to a certain number of machines. You'd have to check on that before you got it, but usually it's not anything too dramatic.

Warranties are always a good choice, no matter whether the company is reliable or not on the whole- you never know what might happen, and it helps protect you when you're spending quite a bit of money on something.

 

Run XP virtually.

 

Issue affecting all 8150s or just a few?

This is just ridiculous, a high end gaming laptop and it can't accept more than two keys being pressed. Just wow.

My 8150 is on it's way back to me after screen issues and now I'm reading this.

 

Haha that's funny that they are selling discounted screens due to a max of 1 broken pixel . But if you're quite unsure, then just go for the Glossy instead. Both 95% screens are amazing anyway .

Matte is great indoors and outdoors, glossy was great indoors and better colour reproduction but bringing it around sometimes, I had to squint my eyes (glossy screen from the older Sager NP8690).