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    *** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Daniel Hahn, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. Stelio

    Stelio Notebook Evangelist

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    Does anyone know the battery life with the 460m and 485m on this machine? From forerunners review the 485m can do over 2 hours full brightness while playing HoN, but can the 460m do more?
     
  2. hispeed4567

    hispeed4567 Notebook Evangelist

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    I think mobiousblack (spelling?) got 2-3hrs. watching a blu-ray movie. Which is pretty amazing considering the specs and the moving ODD.
     
  3. Bugler

    Bugler Notebook Guru

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    How about some pics on the pad! :D

    Is the 6300 really that much better? Are the button blue tooth dongles pretty good?
     
  4. Ryan

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    It may be difficult for you to notice the speed differences in both cards, as they are both super-fast, but the 6300 is tad faster.

    Range-wise, however, you may notice a difference between two antennas vs. three antennas.
     
  5. Bugler

    Bugler Notebook Guru

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    Ok, more distance and slightly more speed. How good are the button dongles for BT?
    Thanks!
     
  6. hispeed4567

    hispeed4567 Notebook Evangelist

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    The 6300 has a higher theoretical maximum of 450mbs (vs the 6230's 300mbs) and has much better range because the 6300 has three antennae (vs the 6230's two antennae). Now that speed benefit means absolutely nothing if your signal can't reach it. So, for most people, the trade off is blue tooth for range. For me, I never use blue tooth products to the choice was easier. If you chose the 6230 (i see in your sig that you did) and never use blue tooth, then its kinda pointless to upgrade from stock. Might as well spend the extra $10 and get the 6300.

    edit: started typing an answer, left for a bit and someone already answered haha
     
  7. Ryan

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    I don't use BT, so I can't comment on that.. Sorry.
     
  8. Bugler

    Bugler Notebook Guru

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    I typically use a BT mouse. I haven't done well with the pads. From what I've read here, the pad is a short coming on these because of the texture. So, I'll be on the mouse. Thanks for the quick responses!
     
  9. trvelbug

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    Any updates on whether clevo has recieved the qs samples from intel and any updates on availability?
     
  10. Windkull

    Windkull Notebook Evangelist

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    Wire mouse >> wireless, also BT drains battery pretty badly :(
     
  11. mobiousblack

    mobiousblack Notebook Deity

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    Got around 3 hours with heavy browsing, alot of downloading, youtube videos, and chatting on steam. Did not watch a bluray movie :p
     
  12. hispeed4567

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    Well somebody watched a bluray movie :p. Atleast I got the time right :)
     
  13. Stelio

    Stelio Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey hispeed

    Xoticpc has not given me any ETA but I figure once they start rolling out of Clevo and into Sager hands we will get a better timeline of when the laptops will arrive.
     
  14. hispeed4567

    hispeed4567 Notebook Evangelist

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    True. I would really like it if they told me if I was like #647 in line and they ship X number of units a week, but that's not gonna happen.
     
  15. Epsilon748

    Epsilon748 Notebook Evangelist

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    Sure, no problem. I took some with my m1530 on it for reference, since it's pretty much the same dimensions in terms of screen and depth. I put a credit card on one of the pics for scale, because my mouse is a bit bigger than most. (This isn't my desk, my girlfriend is using it for work right now, so it's the kitchen table- so don't question me on the thatched placemats as mouse pad! :D).

    Cooler Master SF-19 Cooler:
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    As you can see, the 15" laptop is tiny on that thing. The cord for the USB ports is on the right, but I plugged it into the right USB ports on my laptop to show the length. It's probably between 1 and 2 feet long, so that's not an issue.
     
  16. I Never Relax

    I Never Relax Notebook Consultant

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    That skin on your XPS is sick! Where did you get it?
     
  17. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    beast.. does it sit well in your lap? like without blocking too much airflow?
     
  18. Epsilon748

    Epsilon748 Notebook Evangelist

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    Got it from Skinit.com about a year ago. The front of the case was getting smudged and scratched, so I figured I'd cover it up and look different than the million other XPS's at my college

    Yeah, because the top is all mesh as is the bottom and the fans are mounted in the middle of the frame it allows air to pass through both sides. It's also got rubber grips on the top and bottom that lift it off the desk.
     
  19. hispeed4567

    hispeed4567 Notebook Evangelist

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    Completely OT, but Epsilon what ISP do you have to get those amazing up/down speeds?
     
  20. Epsilon748

    Epsilon748 Notebook Evangelist

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    Cisco Systems, Inc. Corporate internet proxy and VPN (I work there and live around the corner from the building). Absolutely fantastic speeds, but still not as good as my college which was often 96 down 25 up (though to be fair, that 25 up was only in bursts because you got throttled to 2 up after a certain amount of data. They didn't like us running servers in our dorms and on campus housing)
     
  21. TearTaker

    TearTaker Notebook Evangelist

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    I noticed in the pictures that you provided, Epsilon, the gray rubber tops on the storm cooler? Mine are black which I prefer but just wondering. Cool addition if you did it. :)
     
  22. hispeed4567

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    Well my school is no where close to that. Probably 9 down/3-4 up.

    Back on topic(sort of): I'm hoping that my intel 6300 and my future cisco linksys e4200 will make my internet browsing experience a little bit better. Of course, this all depends on what ISP I go with and what package I get.
     
  23. Epsilon748

    Epsilon748 Notebook Evangelist

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    I think the color difference depends on the model. The USB 2.0 model is gray, the USB 3.0 is black. I got the 2.0 because it was cheaper, and I don't actually own anything that is 3.0 yet, so I figured the 2 built in ports were plenty.
     
  24. Bugler

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    Thanks for the pix! That looks cool!
     
  25. Ryan

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    Hmm, I suddenly have a dead-pixel almost in the middle of the screen..

    Does anyone know what the warranty policy on this is?

    I have like 2 dead pixels on the screen, one is more towards the end.
     
  26. Bugler

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    From whom did you buy it? How long have you had it? Did you buy the "Dead Pixel" warranty?
     
  27. Ryan

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    I bought it from Larry, or LPC-digital.

    I did not get the dead pixel warranty, but I think there was a policy about "dead pixel in the center of the screen"?

    Hmm.. I wonder why suddenly a dead-pixel popped up.
     
  28. Bugler

    Bugler Notebook Guru

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    That is interesting. Please keep us informed. Maybe someone can answer how/why this happens. I've been told that by the first month, or so, you'll know if you'll have one/two or not.
     
  29. Ryan

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    Why me though..

    Might have to contact Larry about this black thing lodged in the middle of my screen...
     
  30. Bugler

    Bugler Notebook Guru

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    Bleeding edge, bro, bleeding edge! :(
     
  31. Madkid

    Madkid Notebook Evangelist

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    Were you able to confirm whether they are dead, or just stuck?
     
  32. windsong7

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    Found this on Powernotebooks.com: "Sager’s standard policy of guaranteeing no dead pixels within the center area of the screen equally divided by a # sign will remain unchanged for our standard orders."

    Looks like you only need one dead pixel in the center area to take advantage of the guarantee.

    Link here:
    PowerNotebooks.com - Laptop & Notebook News & Articles
     
  33. Ryan

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    Yeah, sad.

    But Larry contacted me first like 5 min. ago,

    Guess I made the right choice by going with LPC-digital, you should also feel grateful Bugler!
     
  34. Bugler

    Bugler Notebook Guru

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    WoW! That IS service! Very cool!
     
  35. Ryan

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    It's a dead pixel.

    It is black regardless of what color I put on the screen, and won't be revived by any stuck pixel remover..

    How can I test if it's totally dead or not?
     
  36. Ryan

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    Awesome!

    Yeah, I don't even have to measure it with the #. It's like lodged right there inside the vaguely drawn square. :D
     
  37. Madkid

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    Yeap, I think you pretty much confirmed it if you've tried the different methods to remove stuck pixels ;)
     
  38. Mathis512

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    So you never said what it was that LPC offered to do for you? Is it the standard Sager dead pixel policy?
     
  39. HTWingNut

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    Apply a little pressure on the screen at the dead pixel. Don't go too ape wild on it, just a little pressure. It could even be a stuck pixel with a dark blue or black. In either case if it's covered under warranty, then I'd just let them replace it.
     
  40. Stelio

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    Damn dude that sucks. I think you are the first encounter of a dead pixel on the forum >_<
    I got the upgraded matte screen so I opted for the pixel warranty -.-


    How do you guys feel about the trackpad? Does everyone still find it horrible...or have you been able to adjust to the rubberness?
     
  41. windsong7

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    It's not clear on the reseller websites (PNB and XoticPC), but Sager's standard pixel policy probably applies only for the first 30 days.

    Here's Xotic's for reference:
    http://www.xoticpc.com/xotic-dead-pixel-guarantee-a-8.html
     
  42. madrabbit711

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    Hi all,

    I'm having trouble deciding between:

    P151HMB with a 460m, 2720QM and matte screen + Win7
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    P150HMB with a 485m, 2720QM and glossy screen + no OS

    My main hesitation is the glossy screen in the P150HMB, otherwise I'd order it today. I've never had a glossy screen and I concerned about the noise from reflections during office use but not so much gaming (usually at night).

    I know the colors are more vivid on a glossy screen and the 485m is a massive jump from the 460m, but I'm wondering if any of you would have any input on if you find the glossy display in the P150HM annoying?

    I'd order from a supplier such as Xotic or Mythlogic to get a the P150HM with a matte screen but unfortunately I'm based in Australia.
     
  43. Madkid

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    If you are working in an office most of the time, the glossy screen will probably not be a major issue for you, unless you have a light right behind (or something similar) you for some reason.

    There are now pics and videos of the 8150, as well as the 8170, which also has a glossy screen. If I recall correctly, most, if not all, were done indoors, so you should be able to tell if the glossiness will affect you. You can also go to an electronics store that sells laptops - you will not have trouble finding some with glossy screens.
     
  44. Tapakidney

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    And if it helps at all, I have never, ever had a problem with my screen being glossy.
     
  45. Bugler

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    I think I'm going to go ahead and stay with the glossy also. That's all I've had for the last six years inside and outside. It hasn't been a problem for me.
     
  46. hizzaah

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    I debated on the matte for a while.. But this is my first high end system, so I told myself go big or go home :D I'm quite excited. The screen on my current lappy is a piece. It's super glossy and with the brightness all the way up, it's about as bright as my iPhone on 1/4-1/3 brightness. And I think it's been getting dimmer. It's lame..
     
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    But did you find reflections for environmental light annoying regardless of the brightness? And is this why your going matte with the P150HM?
     
  48. hizzaah

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    Yeah, that's part of the reason I suppose. It was really annoying at first, but I got somewhat used to it.. I still notice my reflection all the time which sucks. I don't use it outside, but I'd imagine it would suck lol. My problem is the reflection from artificial lights. I use it in class a bunch, and the reflections from the lights above are annoying..

    Keep in mind that the screen I'm referring is on a crappy Dell inspiron 1545.. I think a few people on here were saying that the bightness capabilities of the 8150's screen were pretty much capable of over coming any reflections issues. I thought I read in like the toms review (or somewhere) that the brightness level of it was on par with that of the mac books..?
     
  49. Stelio

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    I have a broken Acer aspire. I hate it. It has a glossy screen and I hated it for school. My lecture halls were always brightly lit and I could see the bulbs reflection.
    Love my netbook! Matte screen in school is great =]

    Matte screens are very nice so I got that option too.
     
  50. hizzaah

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    IMO, I'd take a 485 over a matte screen any day :)
     
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