*** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

i could be completely wrong about this, but i get the feeling it's not quite that simple to just move it to another port like in a desktop, such that you'd be looking at a similar timeframe as to getting the chipset replaced anyway.

also, both the eSata and ODD are connected to the affected ports:
Internal HD - 0
ODD - 2
eSATA -3

only 0 and 1 are OK according to the info thus far.

 

Yea, the other site didnt put it up yet though. I'm looking for some more in depth gaming benches.

 

I thought of that too
but it's not easy ....

 

Probably by the end of the week.

 

Sager and Clevo have consulted together and have decided that both Sager and Clevo will halt all pending shipments of Intel 6 series chipset systems. Models include Sager NP5160, NP5170, NP8130, NP8150, NP8170. (Clevo: W150HNQ, W170HN, P150HM, P151HM1, P170HM).

2. The current schedule is that starting in the middle of Feb 2011, Intel will start supplying qualification samples of the new revision of Intel 6 series chipset to Clevo. Clevo RD and QC will make it their first priority to test and qualify this new chip revision and prepare for mass production.

3. Currently the mass production version of the revised 6 series is scheduled to begin delivery from Intel to Clevo in limited quantities at the end of Feb 2011. We estimate that we will resume limited quantity shipment of Sager models NP8130, NP8150, and NP8170 in the middle of March 2011 and limited quantity of NP5160, NP5170 models at the end of March to the beginning of April 2011. Stabilization of shipment for all models should occur by the end of April 2011.


Q&A:

Q: What if I have already received my system or a system is on the way?
A: The chip flaw at issue should not happen immediately. Please continue to use your system as is. Once the stabilization of shipment occurs, Sager will start a recall program for all affected models that have already been shipped.

We will offer 3 day air both ways shipping to replace the affected systems with a brand new motherboard as well as resetting your warranty period to restart from the date the recall service is completed.

We estimate to start the recalling process between May-June’11.

Q: Should I cancel my pre-order?
A: As the 2nd generation Core processors have shown potential in performance gain in many areas, supply was already on a very tight inventory control. This recall will further restrict supply through the first half of 2011. Our suggestion is that if you do not have any urgent need of a new system, you should keep your pre-order as your credit card will not be charged until we have a unit ready for your order and your consent to go forward. We believe that it would be best to keep your pre-order open as you will not have to restart at the end of the pre-order list.

 

Thanks for the update Larry.

The recalling process beginning at May-June '11..

Wonder how they will take repairs if the ODD port broke down before that period..

 

That's what they said here in Greece, though no word on reseting the warranty after the fix.

 

Wait, if it is a barebones type order, will I have to send it in with my own expenses for the repair?..

As "Sager" is paying for the shippings?

Or would the hardware defect be part of the coverage under warranty and will I be covered shipping fees?

 

If you have a barebones order then you do not have a Sager branded laptop and will therefore have to look to your vendor to find their resolution.

 

thanks to larry for the update. i have a Q you may want to add, or perhaps this is a PM type thing... how are you guys treating ppl who have preordered but have already paid via wire transfer?

 

^^ I would like to know this as well. I really don't want to cancel my order, but at the same time I don't want $1500 to be sitting in laptop limbo until intel gets everything sorted out. (I would like to know this from xoticpc)

 

For the most precise answer on this matter please contact your dealer in a email and they will give you the options...

 

so on newegg.com they offer pc 10600, 10660, and 10666. all are ddr3 1333mhz. which should i get for the 8150? or they all supported?

would an owner mind scanning their system on crucial.com and posting the results?

 

S there is one more 6gb sata port available for use in this board?
If so maybe there is a way of using this port instead of switching.
But like you said it coukd be easier said than done.
But if a fix like this coukd be done and the sata thing is the only issue with the present chipset, i wouldnt wait for a recall myself.

 

They should all work. PC-10600 is the standard. Always suggest kingston or corsair as they are good quality and reliable.

 

can anyone with a Segate Momentus XT HD report on the WEI score? i read that stock it's 5.9 but after using it a bit it jumps to the 6's

 

I am not sure to understand what's going wrong with the notebook...
All my ports are working, ODD is fine and I have been heavily using it...
If it degrades with time but the recall is planned in May-June?
Does anyone know any symptom we can check? I mean, I would be motivated if there is a problem but so far I have none.
Weird news

 

i was under the impression that the degradation of the ports would take several years to fully occur..

 

I agree. I am changing my notebook every year. If think this issue is more for companies who need to keep notebooks for 5/10 years.
E-sata, SATA3,USB3, everything work -> full speed. 3 weeks with no BSOD for me.
I had plenty of non-working notebook with no recall, this time I have a working one with recall !

 

Man I so want my laptop..

 

just got mine tonight and am quite impressed.. (ordered on the 18th so maybe yours has already shipped^^)

ALso, I installed all the drivers and my wireless works but for some reason can't detect any wireless networks anybody got any idea on why that could be and (if any of the resellers could tell me what the standard wlan+BT adapter brand and model # is it'd be great)

 

Lucky you! I went ahead and canceled my order. I'm just going to wait until the summer.

 

Look in your Device Manager>Network Adapters for your wifi+Bluetooth make and model.

 

Did you turn on the Wi-Fi?

I thought there was a button to turn on the Wi-Fi card.

 

See the below for the drivers. One if you have the standard WiFi with BT, and the other one if you have the INTEL 6230 WiFi BT combo card. Download and install the one you have in your system...


ftp://cftp.clevo.com.tw/P15xHM/Optional/Combo_R.zip ... If it is the standard WiFI Blu-tooth


ftp://cftp.clevo.com.tw/P15xHM/Optional/Combo_I.zip If is an INTEL 6230 Wifi Blu-tooth combo card
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According to endgadget only the SATA 3G part is affected by the chipset failure (over time). The SATA 6g is fine.
The DVD is using a 3G or 6G?
If I use only the USB3 and not the USB2 it should be fine as well.

 

DVD is SATA II.

So all machines are actually affected.. regardless of single HDDs or two.

 

But the failure rate is 5/15% over 3 years!
The HDD is SATA3, my crucial C300 is going over SATA2 limitation.
So no, the main HDD is not affected at all.

 

Yes, this has been extensively dealt with in other threads.

The HDD's are not affected, but the ODD and eSATA are affected by this.

 

all is solved was a windows problem after all(reinstalled the drivers and everything is in order) after manually downloading(from my old laptop) and installing the drivers to the new pc once i found the damn driver cd(was wedged hidden in the corner of the box... I complicated my life so much but now its done and itd beautiful now if i can only get calm enough to sleep ill try it ou tomorrow


BTW thanks to all of you who responded(it was quickvanswering considering its 3am here)

 

I honestly dont see how this issue with the sata 3g can be a major concern for end users.
If you have pre-ordered it then you have to wait a couple of weeks more to get a fully functioning laptop. If you need a laptop immidiately then get something else, at least you were told in advance of a potential issue.
If you already have it, enjoy it. The failure rate is low is youll be using it for s cpuple of months and it doesnt lead to data corruption. You have been promised a recall in a few months and chances are you will have a fully functioning beast till that time.
I have mine on pre-order and i will need to have it eventually shipped to my country. I also need a laptop right now for work so make do with a netbook and ipad. Iam willing to wait till this thing gets sorted out. Thats technology for you, things sometimes dont go as planned especially when you are an early adapter, so nothing new...

 

I know most people are probably impatient to get their 8150's (I know I'd rather have it sooner than later)- but I don't mind waiting if I can get a machine that is in the best possible shape out of the box. The eSATA port was one I actually planned to use.

That said, the delay also means I'll be getting my $3000 tax refund as well, so I'm going to be sorely tempted to add some upgrades to this thing... I'm just hoping I can get it by late March/early april or I'm going to be in trouble with moving again for college .

Oh well.

Malibal's response to this was pretty top notch, and I'd still like to give them my business, even if it means waiting a bit more! I guess I'm the lucky one here though because I have a laptop that still works (and a netbook, but it's definitely not my first choice either)

 

little off topic, but say i want to order my 8150 with a blu-ray reader, and the 80gb intel ssd as the primary hd. what would i need in order to:
1) install a new secondary hd in the odd bay
2) use the removed blu-ray as an external usb disk drive

 

ODD caddy, from 2nd Hard Drive Caddy for Sager NP8690 / 8690 , also for SSD [OBHD-SATA12-SATA-BU] - $44.75 : NewmodeUS, Hard Drive Caddys for Notebooks

External Drive enclosure - Tray loading enclosure, SATA connection.
Probably eBay would work, get a cheap enclosure.

 

Dang, caddy's expensive! Any way to get one on the cheap? Xotic, pnb, digital, or anyone have em cheaper?

 

Yea i feel the same way. I have about 2400 sitting in limbo now. I may just cancel and reorder at a later time when AMD comes out with their card to see what kind of pricing that is. It seems by the time intel gets their together then prices would have come down.

 

Ebay has them cheaper but you have to be careful to make sure you get the right ones. Some have spent more money by having to return incompatible or unsuitable caddys.

 

Yes, that would be me...

Trust me spend the money and get the newmodeus one. Or PM mythlogic and they sell caddies for Sagers / Clevos as well. Not sure on pricing though.

 

They are all similar.

Around $40 with shipping is what they all turn out to be..

look around the web and there is a coupon for some discounts on the newmodeus caddy.

Specifically : FB072808

This is the code I used to get some discounts off the caddy, and for me it came just under $40, which is the price at which probably all the other retailers offer

 

Yea we pretty much have standard pricing on that kinda stuff, just hit us up for more info if you want =)

 

This is the one I got and it works well for the most part. I don't like how the faceplate is only held in with 1 screw but so far no signs of it coming off and I travel daily with my laptop.

I've had my laptop on about roughly 12 hours a day since Saturday and have done everything from play games, re-encode movies, watch 3D blurays, etc. and this laptop just keeps going. I am extremely pleased with the 485M GTX vs the 460M that I had in my G53. The difference in 3D is night and day as far as performance.

 

Is that 3D games or 3D movies or both?

 

Movies it made no difference, the real difference is in games. I play WoW every now and then and my FPS almost doubled in that game. Resident Evil5, Starcraft 2, Black Ops, Deadspace 2 all look amazing.

 

This is not a 3D screen capable machine.

 

Isn't there like a 3d-TV kit you could hook this up to?

It might be that..

 

so it's what you recommend? it fits right and doesn't rattle?

 

The machine isn't but hooking it up to an external 3D monitor like this one
Alienware OptXTM AW2310 should work right?
All it needs is a Dual DVI input. It comes with the glasses.
The laptop screen in the 8150/8170 isn't 3D, I know that. The external monitor should work.

Thanks I rarely play games. I'm sure those games all look amazing in 3D. I basically want this for movies plus I figure I can hook my PS3 into that monitor and play their 3D games on it.

 

Anyone found a notebook cooler that lines up perfectly for the 8150?

 

With the layout being the same as the NP8690/W860CU series, the cooler I have right now (CryoLX) would theoretically work, however I do not have the laptop yet

 

You still need a min. refresh rate of 120hz for 3d to function. unfortunately the p150hm is standard 60hz