*** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

I am just a casual gamer

I don't even play WoW that much, but when i do i would like it to look nice

I may consider crysis 2, but highly doubt it. If anything i would buy it for 60bucks on my xbox, rather than paying 500bucks for a better video card

^^ probably going to get flamed for having an xbox lmao.

Yeah, i also took out the 8gb of ram and put in a better wireless card, saving me some moniesss.

I put in:

Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module

And down to 4gb ram.

Price comes to:
$1487.32 CAD

Looking good

 

Then may I ask why you are not opting for the np8130, which has better base configuration but without the GPU upgradeability option?

Choosing the np8130 will give you cheaper base prices, with better base components, such as 8GB RAM standard, and 500GB 7200RPM HDD.

If it helps, contact babyhemi, because he gave me some great quotes regarding barebones models, and his cash discounts were really great.

 

I had no idea about the 8130.

I will have to look at that one.but does it come with a sandy bridge processor?

Ill look at it tomorrow morning and reply.fornow I am going to bed.

But if that notebook is cheaper by all means I'll check it out.

 

Yup!

Take a look at the model, and update the new specs!

 

Yes it comes with a sandy bridge processor. Like meraki said above, with the 8130 you start out with 8GB of ram, 500GB HDD, and a matte screen (if you prefer matte) for about $100 less than the base 8150 which starts with 4GB, etc...

 

Out of curiosity, other than the $100 and screen type, what other difference are there when compared to the 8150? I spec'd out a 8150 with the same stuff with the 485 and it was about $700 more. I'd hate knowing I spent this much more for a GPU, even though it is significantly better.

 

The obvious one is that the 8150 has the capability to power a higher-end GPU like the 485m, and the 6970m when it comes out too. The 8130 can't do that.

I think someone on here said that the 8150 had better cooling on it, but I've to see this actually confirmed. It could have been and I just missed it.

The 8150 is rubberized and the 8130 is high-end plastic. The rubberized surface helps against fingerprints and such. Some people think that the surface and higher PSU is enough for the increase in price. Others, like myself, have no intention of upgrading the GPU so the 8130 works out to be the perfect laptop (even pricewise).

 

Could someone with the 8150 please weigh the power brick (resellers?) ? TIA

 

Iwas having the exact same doubt, it may look stupid but i'd like to ask something else.

This better cooling you comment, would it only make diference for the more power consuming GPU's, or would it be a problem with the standard 460M?

And just to confirm, that is the only diference?

Im new here but very happy to have found this reviews, thx you all.

And as i'm new in this gaming laptop world can someone recomend the better sites to buy this kind pc's plz.(so i can take a look around at prices etc... thx again)

 

Ah forgot to add, i saw sager sell notebooks in their own site, what would be the difference buying from them or chosing a reseller?

 

Hmmm, i looked at that model and it seems interesting, but after:

I am not to sure if its something i would go for.

I know i'm not an intense gamer, but i would rather spend the extra 100-200bucks to get something that has the potential to be upgraded, that way it would last a little longer.

I am trying to decide what to do here now that these two laptops are on the table. But here is the configuration i got on the 8130:

Base config *
Sager NP8130 Base config +CA$1,245.27
Display *
15.6" Full HD LED-Backlit Display with Matte Finished Surface (1920 x 1080)
No Pixel Insurance

Video & Graphics Card *
Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M GPU with 1.5GB GDDR5 Video Memory
CPU Processor *
2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM Processor ( 6MB L3 Cache, 2.00GHz)
Thermal Compound *
IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Operating System
Genuine MS Windows® 7 Home Premium 32/64-Bit Edition
Memory *
8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 2 X 4GB
Primary Hard Disk Drive *
500GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive
Optical Drive *
8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Wireless Network Card *
Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
Primary Battery *
Smart Li-ION Battery Pack
No TV Tuner
Integrated Security Device *
Fingerprint Reader
No Microsoft Office
Warranty *
Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty
(plan on upgrading that, maybe)

Price as Configured ^^
CA$1415.22


Here is 8150 configured:

Base config *
Sager NP8150 Base config +CA$1,348.27
Display *
15.6" Full HD LED-Backlit Display with Super Glossy Surface (1920 x 1080)
No Pixel Insurance

Video & Graphics Card *
Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M GPU with 1.5GB GDDR5 Video Memory
CPU Processor *
2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM Processor ( 6MB L3 Cache, 2.00GHz)
Thermal Compound *
IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Operating System
Genuine MS Windows® 7 Home Premium 32/64-Bit Edition
Memory *
4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz
Primary Hard Disk Drive *
500GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive
Optical Drive *
8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Wireless Network Card *
Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module
Primary Battery *
Smart Li-ION Battery Pack
No TV Tuner
Integrated Security Device *
Fingerprint Reader
No Microsoft Office
Warranty *
Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty
(plan on upgrading that, maybe)

Price as Configured ^^
CA$1,446.12


They are very close, and the finish on the 8130 is something i am concerned about. I don't like fingerprint magnets, but i don't mind them either.

And just if this would change anything, the only other game i plan on playing maybe, is the new Star Wars mmorpg.

 

240 ... id rather get external monitor for less money...

 

Here are the resellers I am aware of:
XoticPC
LPC Digital
Malibal
Power Notebooks

There are others, but that's a good start.

Looks like the cooling is the same.

The main differences I've noticed is that most resellers give you a slightly better warranty as well as a cash discount price. For instance, if I bought the exact same laptop from Xoticpc and Sager, Sager would give me a 1yr parts/labor warranty, while Xotic would give me a 3 yr labor / 1 yr parts warranty.

Also, some resellers are better than others as to whether they allow you to "subtract" components to save money.

Spend that extra $50 or so for the option to upgrade the GPU in the future.

seriously. i saw that price and my jaw dropped. i know it's probably labor+parts, but sheesh.

 

Well, I'd be willing to pay up to $150~180ish,

but $250 is simply too much..

 

What is wrong with the lower end wifi card? As far as I understood the only difference was the speeds, which the low end could do 100mbps over wireless N while the higher models could do something like 300mpbs? But most lower end routers and even the common N router (DIR-655, which I have) can't do over 100 mpbs on wireless anyway.

Or do the higher end cards have better signal strength? I've enver had a problem with my Intel 5300 Wireless Half-Card in my Dell SXPS 16, always has full strength within a household I'm visiting and no problem in the apartment.

I did order a NP8150 through LPC Digital with the base wireless as I didn't think there was really any difference beyond the limitation of the throughput. Submitted my money order through my bank already. Is this user-upgradable?

EDIT: Found a reference about this in a recent thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo-reviews-owners-lounges/546387-official-sager-np8150-clevo-p150hm-owners-lounge-26.html

 

It is a lot, but just looking at it they come to the same, but once provides upgrades and the other doesn't. Although i may or may not need upgrades, you never know and if an upgrade were needed, and i couldn't do it i would have a huge regret.

Aside from that, reflex notebook offers a 1year warranty, for 77bucks extra and they cover all shipping extra. And there shipping charges when you first buy the laptop is 112.27.... a lot of money for shipping.

Hopefully i can get them to price match this baby down.

 

The range has to do with the number of antennas,

in that sense, the 6300n has more range. It also has higher speeds.

However, 6300n does not have bluetooth. I don't use bluetooth, so I just went for the best.

I also ordered from Larry, PM him for details on how to upgrade your order, I was able to upgrade my CPU and wireless card after I ordered by sending him a payment afterwards, and he updated my invoice for me.

 

Haha I meant the screen.

I went for upgradeability as well, didn't mind spending some more for the opportunity to use the upcoming technology.

 

Ahh my bad.

Anyways, my total comes to 1914 (in that range, don't have the page open).

That includes the 1 year warranty, shipping, taxes etc.

 

Ah well I'm just going to stick with what I've had, I've done enough changes on Larry already and he's been great to work with.

 

Taxes????

Try buying from a reseller in the US so that you don't have to pay tax.

Are you willing to pay in paypal e-check? Then babyhemi has some great prices, I harassed him with 80+ PMs with 10 different configs and he always gave me the best quotes compared to all the other resellers..

 

Yeah, I have to agree on that.. I harassed him too much......

 

Oh, one question about the wireless network adapter in the laptop.

There are three choices.

Internal 802.11 B+G+N Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Combo Module
Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Combo Module
Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module

You said that it gives higher speeds, the 6300 but if my home internet is , do i really need it? By , i mean:

Download: 2-3mbps
Upload: 0-1mbps

Do i really need to spend 40bucks on the best one?

 

Man oh man, i have to pay close to $250 for taxes.

Taxes are actually 224bucks..

 

If you are only going to use it for Internet access, the standard card's speed is 150Mb/s, so there is no need to upgrade the card as long as you have an 802.11 'n' router.

 

If it's that case, you won't notice the difference. I'm more about the range, and I don't use bluetooth, so I went for the 6300n.

Also, can't you bypass the tax when you buy it from a US reseller?

 

No, you pay Canadian tax through Canadian Customs, it cannot be avoided when you import.

 

Yeah, i just called Xotic PC.

No way to avoid it, you get "surprise" costs when it comes to your door...

 

I only use it for stander internet access.

So i get to save 40 bucks

 

Oh.. my bad..

 

Here is the new configuration.

Base config *
Sager NP8150 Base config +CA$1,348.27
Display *
15.6" Full HD LED-Backlit Display with Super Glossy Surface (1920 x 1080)
No Pixel Insurance

Video & Graphics Card *
Nvidia GeForce GTX 460M GPU with 1.5GB GDDR5 Video Memory
CPU Processor *
2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM Processor ( 6MB L3 Cache, 2.00GHz)
Thermal Compound *
IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Operating System
Genuine MS Windows® 7 Home Premium 32/64-Bit Edition
Memory *
4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz
Primary Hard Disk Drive *
500GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive
Optical Drive *
8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Wireless Network Card *
Internal 802.11 B+G+N Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Combo Module
Primary Battery *
Smart Li-ION Battery Pack
No TV Tuner
Integrated Security Device *
Fingerprint Reader
No Microsoft Office
Warranty *
1 x Reflexnotebook Hassle free warranty
Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty
(plan on upgrading that, maybe)

Price as Configured ^^
CA$1,580.02

Does that look good for my needs?

GRAND Total w/ Taxes, Shipping, and Discount.

$1,886.54 CAD

From Reflexnotebook.ca

Any suggestions? I want to put in an order soon... i already missed the Feb. 7th deadline, so i have to wait 2-3weeks

 

You will pay the same tax regardless if you purchase from a US company or a Canadian company. There are no import duties on notebooks shipped from the US to Canada.

If you purchase a laptop from the US and have it shipped to Canada, you only pay your local GST / PST taxes - which are the same taxes you have to pay if you buy a laptop locally in Canada.

The only other fee you might have to pay is a brokerage fee, if you use standard shipping from the US. If you get express shipping from the US, this brokerage fee is waived - and so the total taxes / fees are the same as if you purchased locally in Canada.

See: UPS: Rates for Customs Clearance into Canada

 

I have a question about the 460. I know that the 485 really is the big boy on the block when it comes to graphics, but there are some of us (like myself) who aren't going to be playing games all that often. Assuming I do pick up a couple of current games, will the 460 be able to handle them, albeit with the res turned down a little bit and AA etc turned down / off? I am just wondering how capable this card is going to be for those of us for whom game playing is a second or third priority. Thanks in advance.

 

The GTX460 is a more than capable card that will be able to handle pretty much anything you throw at it, but as you said some of the HIGHEND stuff you will have to turn down some settings, but its quite capable.

 

Did you change resellers? This config compared to the previous 8150 you posted is almost identical except that the previous post included the Intel 6300 WiFi, but this one has the standard card. Yet somehow this config costs over $100 more? I'm confused.

However, yes, that does look good for your needs.

 

I did not change resellers.

Reason why its close to $100 more is because in the other one with the 6300 WiFi, i forgot to add in the 1 year 77dollar warranty.

 

Awesome, thanks for the info. As I said, I will be using this notebook for other things mainly, but at this price point, I would like to be able to play some games.

I don't know if this next question can be answered or not yet, but how much more capable than the 460 will the 6970 be? From what I've heard, it will be more capable than the 460, but still not near what the 485 can do. Does that sound accurate, more or less?

 

Yea from what we know it will be somewhere in the middle.

 

I wouldn't call it in the middle after looking at the benchmark done by notebookcheck (6970 + 1st generation i7 Vs 485 + sb processor).

 

anyone order one of these recently? what is sager saying the ship date is now?

 

The below is the latest how the shipping is going on this model...

 

Hope mine isn't delayed... it's supposed to ship this week....

 

For example, orders placed yesterday for the 8150 / P150HM have an estimated ship date of Mid Feb.

 

What about orders placed arounddd... Jan. 12?

 

It depends on the graphics card. With the 485M, most orders from the 12th should have shipped by now. I know that we have P150HM / 485M orders from the 12th that have already shipped. Orders with the 460M are shipping this week, but not that many.

Note: We have P150HM / 460M orders that were placed on the 13th and they are shipping out this week.

 

Hey everybody, thanks for all the good info on this forum. I've been researching buying a new gaming laptop for the last few days, and I finally found myself a reseller that would give me everything I wanted for a decent price, while maintaining a professional and informed dialogue. Mythlogic is a great company/website, and after I configured my new P150HM (on order) I decided to try their live chat support just to ask a few questions and they pinned down exactly what I needed/wanted with a very good quote.

I'm just hoping that the Clevo/Sager backorder log speeds along, because I don't think I've ever been this excited about an online purchase in a while .

BTW, I tried Cyberpower PC first, and if it wasn't for the fact that I could get the screen and SSD that I wanted for roughly the same price, I probably would have gone for the bigger company.

I just wish these websites would ALL make it clear upfront that the laptop is not going to ship anytime soon. Cyberpower was still offering rush services as an option :\

 

Good point. I'm sure it will be ok for me, I am usually within 20 feet of an access point.

Another good point. If I had a 100 inch screen and 1000 dollar speakers I'm sure I would want an expensive cable as I might notice small imperfections. Or something, who care's I'm just an average user!

 

Now you can order a Sager approved HDD in ODD Bay using a Caddy case. More info and prices soon. For the models of NP5160, NP5170, NP8130, NP8150, NP8170...

 

I placed the order on the 12th but my e-check didn't clear until the 19th. That might have affected it. I'm just so ready to get it.

 

I don't know if all resellers do this... but if you get your order in sooner rather then later and you have not fully decided on the specs (waiting on more information from the forums) they will let you change the spec without losing your order spot. (Sorry if I am wrong)