*** Official Sager NP8150/Clevo P150HM Owners Lounge ***

I found something really interesting:

MULTICOM / Systemkonfigurator

A Norwegian distributor is claiming they ship with nvidia Optimus support. You can even order with WiDi support, which does make it seem less likely to be a typing error. Thoughts?

 

Unless they somehow built the drivers themselves I highly doubt it.

 

Awesome, thanks for the info on the keyboard.

Any word on whether you can use those RAM slots under the keyboard as primary without the bottom slots filled?

 

I would like to know this as well. I would like to ask them to fill up RAM slot under keyboard frist, so that in the future, I can easily upgrade RAM myself.

 

I have attached pictorial instructions for removing the keyboard on the Sager NP8130 and Sager NP8150 to get access to two of the four memory slots.

However effective with today's builds and going forward Sager will install the memory under the keyboard, leaving any open slots under the bottom cover for easy access

Note that in the instructions it says it will support 1GB and 2GB memory pieces, but rest assured it also supports 4GB pieces.

 

How many mini-PCIe slots are there? How many of them are used? And do we know for certain yet if they support mini-PCIe SSD?

 

So does that that next batch of 8130/8150s will have the 8GB installed underneath the keyboard? Sorry if it seems obvious, but the wording is a little weird to me.

 

Yes - you are correct, sir!

 

Let me clarify then. If you are getting 2 pieces of memory, either 2x2GB, 1x2GB + 1x4GB, or 2x4GB, starting with today's build and going forward they will be installed under the keyboard. This will leave the two slots under the bottom cover open for easy upgrade.

 

So are 1600 RAMs fully supported? or just at a maximum of 2x2gb?

 

For 1600 you can have a maximum of 2 sticks of memory in the laptop and require a Quad Core Processor. So the biggest 1600 SODIMMS right now are 2GB from Kingston, A-DATA has some larger ones that would allow up to 2x4GB but they have only been announced and not released yet.

 

Whoa, really? That's weird. Only two sticks at 1600MHz. Guess I'll stick with 1333MHz.

 

Personally I like these:

Newegg.com - Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 204-Pin DDR3 SO-DIMM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory Model KHX1600C9S3K2/8GX

8 Gigs, faster timings of CL9 instead of standard CL11 for 1600

 

Do you know if the P150HM supports XMP profiles?

I think the BIOS has to have Intel XTU for the XMP memory to work properly.

 

Good question,

I know you would use XTU to change the profiles, but I don't know if it will default to the faster timings or not. There is not much information on these on the manufactures website.

Even if they did default to the CL11, they are the only 8 gig kit available for the 1600 speed grade. I have searched around at these are the only 1600 modules that are available

 

It's not a half bad price either. I'm still perplexed why you'd be limited to two sticks with faster speed memory though.

 

Before you order those please heed this direct from the Clevo manual for these models:

"**Note: 1600 MHz Memory Modules are
only supported by Quad-Core CPUs (i7-
2920XM, i7-2820QM & i7-2720QM) to a
maximum of two 2GB SO-DIMMs."

So according to the manual, not so much with the 8GB, BUT try it and see

 

Thanks for the clarification. Its good see that the long wait is actually benefiting in some way

 

No OC in the BIOS? This is pretty shocking to me as I expected to be able to OC the Clevo P170HM with a i7-2920XM CPU. Does this mean there is no way for me to take advantage of the 2920XM OC potential?

 

Max of 4GB via 2x2GB DIMM's? Hmm, that is disappointing and a bit odd.

 

It's not definitely confirmed yet, but if the HM67 chipset uses the same feature set as the desktop H67 chipset then any BIOS overclocking support will be completely locked out.

There's certainly no BIOS overclocking options shown in the vid of the P150HM.

 

well i decided i couldn't wait any longer, i broke down and got one

thanks justin!

Sager NP8150-S1 ( 15.6" 1080p / i7-2720QM / GTX 485m / 8GB / 750GB 7200RPM HDD )
no blu ray but i don't watch them anyway, and it can always be added later.

 

Thank you Phinagle. I'd greatly appreciate any feedback from the resellers on this.

 

A 2 hour and 8 minute battery life at full brightness when you are not even gaming is a bit disappointing I must say, but not unexpected on such a high-end laptop with the 485m and no optimus support. It really delegates the laptop as a desktop replacement more than anything. If they would only figure out a way to have the 485m and optimus, it would be perfect!

 

the price is like stealing. the limitation is very bizarre though. I wonder if it's a hardware limitation.

 

Count your blessings! that is over twice what us 8760/8690 folks have been getting for over a year now.

 

Seems pretty good to me considering how powerful that graphics card is. I wonder how much better my battery life will be with a 460m.

 

I was under the impression looking at this chart that overclocking with the XM series would be possible with this board via the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility, perhaps has yet to be implemented in the BIOS though?



I believe you need to obtain the utility or have it implemented in a UEFI/BIOS manner though.

Here's some info on that utility BTW:

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1501/8/

 

The Intel® i7-2920XM is overclockable using the Intel XTU on all Sager models that have it.

 

Ahhh. Good to hear.

 

I'm not a networking guy, so thanks for this post. I have the Dlink DIR-655, seems like CNET tested the maximum possible speeds and it was around 100Mbps. And then the ISP's speeds would probably be lower than that anyway. So I will not waste my 25 dollars on a more advanced one. (Note, I'm getting the NP5170 which is not out yet, and found this thread through google, though I dont think it matters)

I know it's good business, but I hate how companies scam people that won't do a little research. Same deal with HDMI, you see 100+ dollar cables in best buy but a 2 dollar cable off Amazon works just as well! People assume if it has a higher number or increased cost, its better or necessary.

 

i could live with a fn function as a solution for mediakeys, but no button for "next track" whatsoever? shame on you clevo!

Also how far can you clock the cpu (temps and stable wise)? would like to know if its worth the price tag

 

I wonder if the 6300 influences range at all. For me, range is more important than throughput.

 

Posted this in the 8130 thread but I figure it can go in both.

Looking at the Matte screen (in the 8130) makes me wish that I could either get the 485M in the 8130 or a Matte screen in the 8150.

Would it be hard and/or pointless to buy the same screen and replace the one in the 8150? I've never owned a glossy screen and looking at the video review just made me weep a little inside.

 

It should be possible given the shared chassis and platform, but it is better to ask a reseller.

It would also be better to ask your reseller and or sager to add the matte option. The more that ask for it, the more likely it may happen.

 

actually, there is a benefit in monster/audioquest 100+ dollar cables however it is not a usable or even noticible benefit to the average end user. But this is not the thread for that discussion and the only reason im bringing this up is because of a very relavant saying, "what is ones trash, is another's treasure". Some may have the use for the 6300 wireless tansfer speeds while others like yourself (and me for that matter) dont.

that is exactly what i would like to know too, a free internet hug to whoever clears this up.

 

Yes, with 3 antennas the Intel® Centrino® Ultimate-N 6300 does provide more range than the 2 antenna cards.

 

From what Sager has stated only the 8170 using the HM67 Chipset will support Intel XTU, not all models with the 2920XM.

 

Ah yes, you are correct Justin...I stand corrected.

 

Resellers - is the 8130 screen in the 8150 possible?

Anyone know about how much time it would take, how much it would cost, and if I would be to do it with absolutely no experience in replacing an LCD?

 

I'm considering an 8130 or 8150 configuration with the 460M, 8gb, Momentus XT, and the 6230 networking. I'm concerned about battery life, though, since I haven't seen much data yet on these models (and none for my potential config) and I would be using it unplugged for office apps and web browsing a decent amount of the time.

Can someone with a 2630 cpu / 460M gpu configuration post their experiences with battery life? I'm curious how long it lasts at full brightness, under full load (gaming) and light load (web surfing, etc.)

 

The simple answer is no, it is not available from Sager.

You could have a 3rd party swap your screen, but you are probably looking at over $500 to do it.

 

What brand of thermal paste do you use?

Edit: got the answer from forerunner's 8150 review

 

News, for those looking for amd graphics release date

Eurocom to release its most powerful 15-inch notebook thus far - Notebookcheck.net News

 

Thanks for the link. It looks that it's not a Clevo P150HM at all!!!!!:

Can it?

Yeah, by removing the ODD and putting another 750 GB HDD, very cool!

 

Its not going to be the laptop in the picture if its a 15 inch model, thats the x7200, a 17 inch beast from clevo.

 

I think the picture is of a x8100...

Eurocom to release its most powerful 15-inch notebook thus far - Notebookcheck.net News

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Oh your right, I completely forgot about that model, thought the only model that looked like that was the x7200.

But then wait, the article is very misleading, at the beginning it mentions a 15.6 incher but then later on mentions specs that would obviously fit only in the 18 incher. So what the heck is the racer going to be?

 

I choose the wrong word! When I said 'it looks' I meant the article and not the picture. If you read it carefully you will find that it describes a laptop totally different than the Clevo P150HM (that's assuming that Eurocom P150HM = Clevo P150HM). Ambiguous article indeed.

 

The reason for this is all ram has an input parameter called input capacitance, as you add more ram chips onto the bus the capacitance goes up. This increase in capacitance has a negative effect on the signal integrity. Input capacitance increases the rise time and fall times of the timing signals, as you increase the frequency the problem gets worse. So the convergence of higher speed ram and increased density of ram at some point leads to a limit of how fast and how much ram can be hanging off the memory controller bus.

What will be interesting will be if in fact 2x2gig is the limit at 1600 or can it work with 2x4gig. I have not been able to find anything about this in the datasheets of the 2x20QM or 2920XM that suggest a sodimm size limit at 1600.