*** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

It was published on one of the resellers' website in the future products section. I'll look for it....


<<<< here you go

 

Yeah I've decided I'm going to cancel my current order and play the waiting game. Hopefully Alienware will release a redesign at E3 with dual 480M's. If not I'll probably be picking up an X7200 Clevo lunchbox with either dual 5870's or a single 480M. I'll check out reflex notebook.

 

Good move. I might join you soon, but still have high hopes for the HP 8740w. I have seen the DC2 IPS screen, - jackpot! If the HP probe fails - count me in

 

is x7200 and w880cu are the same?

 

totally different machine, x7200 is on i7 desktop processor with dual gpu option with 3 hdd bay while w880cu is on i7 mobile version with 2 hdd bay and single gpu.

 

no, they are different machines. The x7200 uses desktop CPUs and has dual gfx cards, the W880CU uses mobile processors and has a single gfx card.

edit: beaten to it

 

so no real updates/reviews from owners uptil now?? or is it not in the market yet?

 

doubt it will see any for at least maybe, late july or early august.

 

I'm guessing late August before you see anyone in here yelling "I got it!"
At best.

 

hehehe i hope to be in that same thread too

 

Our info from Sager is absolutely nill. That doesn't say anything about ship dates outside the US, but within the US, that makes us think it'll be a while before we see this powerhouse.

 

If Clevo delays the release further, many will skip it and wait till Sandy Bridge.

 

3 more pics.

 

That's one hell of a brick! But looks good.

 

The design, especially the front fake vent looks much better than the previous design. On empty slot there, probably for the 2nd 480M, then there will be 4 huge fans. And I'm seeing tons of copper pipes under those fans.

 

I just want a cheap config. Not those insane 480m sli 980x configs.
Something more like a 930i7(or 950i7 if the 950 is gonna take the lower end and replace the 930i7 like intel said it would in the begining of september), 6gb ram (using "cheap" 2gb dimm, 3 pieces for triple chanell to work), 5870 Crossfire (no point in having one GPU if the laptop is built to take 2, right ? ), and the cheapest hdd in offer.
If there an optin for RGB LED screen and built in TV tunner, i'd take that too.
And maybe the intel 6300 network card.
Is that too much to ask ?

 

That's actually pretty good. If all goes well, in time you should also be able to upgrade the GPU solution to newer cards and SLI. All in all you should be set for 3-4 years.

 

The round hole between those 2 fans, is that the subwoofer ?

 

Does anybody have the picture of the keyboard?

 

10 charac.

 

Thanks kaltmond. So they replace the programmable buttons with touch buttons?

 

The keyboard and touchpad seems to be exactly the same as those on 8690 and 8760.

 

Yah, That X7200 is a cross between the W880 and the D901, I'm going to sell my motorcycle...AND my 8690 to get the beast when it comes out. I was planning on getting a 9285, but the X7200 is just newer tech, and the D900 honestly is aging a bit, although when I had mine I really was impressed with it, even if it had an older screen( yet still a quality screen for what it is ).

Honestly I'm just a little ticked off about the whole Gtx280 line, and how we basically got shafted on it. Really a 8800mGTX is not that much different speed wise, and is like almost 3 years old.

So the 480m was really what the 280m should have been at the time, or at least something with 200 cores, instead we got a whopping 14 over the 9800mGtx, and of course the 8800mGTX had 96, but still...it's just crap we have to pay so much for mobile GPU boards. I saw a 5870 for like 500 bucks on ebay, and the 280m is still bringing around $220 at it's lowest. Now if I would have gotten this lappy with the 5870, I might be a little less concerned, but I definitely feel that Nvidia has farted around way too long with the G92 tech in laptops. So honestly the way I see it is:

I could keep my 8690, buy a 460mGTX or whatever they're coming out with that my lappy can use power wise, it still has a great CPU, the 720, and good fast ram, albeit it's dual channel, but still 1333.

Or I could just sell it for $1500 or so with a clean OS pre-installed, and I get whatever out of the bike ( enough ) and buy the X7200, and be good for about 2 more years.

The thing with keeping a laptop is, I don't want to eat $1800 you know? I have to sell this thing at some point, or upgrade it and have to put another $400 at least in it.( Still I don't understand why the 8690 can't use the Gtx480...it's only 25w more power consumption than the 280m, and I can get around 80+Watts out of the 280m with a mild overclock. Same slot, is it the same heatsink design though? I just don't see why I couldn't get some hopped up 10A power brick like I bought for my Gateway, and just make up for the power there?)

Either way, I'm still excited to see the X7200.

 

Actually, MR5870 is more like 350$ at most. Even Dell sells those for under 400$ with HS. HP has them for ~330$.

 

Can we get this moved to Owner's lounge sub-forum so it doesn't get lost, when it's convenient for you guys.

 

^^^ It might be too early for that since it will be at least the end of August before anyone has one in hand. Then it should start fresh imo...

 

Every "owners lounge" thread has always started this way one way or another. A suggestion, it is up on as a configuration, I'm guessing pre-orders are soon. Either way we'll keep this alive until then.

 

Can't wait to get my hands on one of these

 

I am interested in one of these but compared to the 8690, you will be paying a heck of a lot more to get a Desktop CPU, the 480M which I am not sure will be much improvement over the GTX 285M in real gaming and more weight. Not sure if it is worth it but I will keep an open mind.

 

This further interests my suspicions that the 480m can be single-slot cooled. When I had my D900F, the cooler for the CPU was actually 3 slots, but the center slot had no fan, so it actually was a odd design, and I always thought...why have the 3rd fan where the 2nd GPU could go, when you could just have a GPU style heatsink on top of the actual CPU. Well here is that design, the " logical " common sense way that I would have thought the D900F would have been.

So that was actually a big part in my decision to send the D900 back for this 8690, because really I wasn't gaining much in the gaming department, and I could not add another GPU because of the CPU cooling design.

Now you could argue that is was partly because of the X58 chipset, but they obviously found a way around that, because the X7200 will most likely use the X58 as far as I know. Either way, I just wish the D900F was designed this way, but they must not have made the same breakthrough as with the X7200, as I see it, and I don't see why it wouldn't be...that X7200 pictured most likely has a Corei7 980x and a GTX480m, and an open GPU slot for some odd reason.

Could 300w power brick even run SLI 480m with a corei7 980x? hell that's 100w+100w+130w+.... hmmm they must have tweaked the power circuit, we could be looking at a big power brick.

 

I don't think think there is any application that can load 100% CPU && 100% 1st GPU && 100% 2nd GPU, That's why 300W power brick might seem enough, even with 3 dimms and 3 hdd + optical drive.

 

Yah, I'm just very excited about this, that's probably the best looking notebook I have seen from Clevo, the 860TU will always be up there, but I think the X7200 has topped it. I really hope there will be a mainstream price on a low config, I was hoping I could get the X7200 with only 1 GPU and an older CPU ( although a 6 core would be tops), for around $2100 hopefully. I won't be able to scrounge up more than that, since an 8850 could be had for $2000 roughly.

 

Hahaha, your lucky you live in the states, from this point of view.
I think the minimum the x7200 can be had for here in europe is gonna be 2500 euros.

Maybe once the x7200 starts selling, the price for the d900f drops, since it will be phased out. 1200p and single GPU, that's what are it's advantages.

Maybe i'm gonna get a cheap d900f with 460m, who knows. All i know is that i'm gonna make my buy in the middle of octomber. Just in time for the core i7 950, who should cost as much as the 930 costs now.

The thing is the single gpu solution d900f is still tempting me, because not all games use 2 gpus, and buying 2 of them will mostly waste money.
For instance wow can't use 2 gpus.

If i can get 950 i7, 6gb ram, and gtx 460m, togther with the cheapest hdd in the offer for 2000 euros, i think i might just go for that.
Cheapest hdd in the offer since i will further plan to get a ssd hdd combo, later on when more money is available.

I was thinking crucial c300 real ssd 128 or 256gb plus 2 western digital 750gb hdd. Or maybe intel 3rd gen ssd, which should be available when i will have the money for the ssd+hdd combo upgrade.

 

Well 460M is not even out yet, it might not be very cheap for all you know. They are probably going to release the 5870MR XF option in X7200 as well, might be after 480M though, because after all they partnered with nvidia so have to give nvidia some due by making their card exclusive for a while.

 

Just let us know when we get at least one owner and we will gladly move it to the owners lounge section.

 

sorry if i didnt read this whole thread, but!..i see one part that has every other machine beat hands down.
an hdmi IN port!
is this really true or a mis print?

 

X8100 has the IN port as well, it just carried on the tradition.

 

let me rephrase
A Clevo made machine. that should cover all makes and models. how about that?
and a 120hz screen.

they really are getting with the times now.

 

Has anyone bought the x7200?

 

It's not out yet

 

I have a 1920 x 1200 screen, and I stop seeing any improvements past 4xAA. Some games can be played without AA at all ... there's differences between games in this area - some looks better with 4xAA, others there's barely any difference at all ... except for lower fps, of course.

 

take a closer look at the out lines..4xaa shows jagged lines....
zoom in or stand real close and you will see them.
this was at 8xAA and you can still barely see them, but they are there.
trace the outline of the roof and you will see them...

 

Yes, you will see jaggedness if you look for it. I don't notice any real quality improvement past 4xAA when I'm playing and is immersed in the game, that's what I'm saying.

 

oh, dont get me wrong...i was just putting that out there for the AA people...me..as long as it looks cool and plays fast..im good.
that was running sli 9800m gtx@1920x1200 and fps was averaging 160+

and they are up to 32xAA now...so someone is noticing something..if not you...

 

Awrite.
I'm not a hard core gamer, and gaming is not what I primarily use my machine for - that could have something to do with it

 

see... your missing the side point..lol

we are are on the same team here.
me, i dont game..i bench?: and i will bench games as well. last game i played though was metro2033.
i do far more than sit around playing games all day..that would be easy...lol

 

Greetings to all. I have been reading this forum for a couple weeks now and finally decided to join the fray. Forgive my banal questions as I am a NOOB. I will try not to ask too many stupid questions without having exhausted the existing threads first. I was about to buy a D900F when I saw the mention of x7200. Now I am going to pick up a B5100M for work and hold out for the 7200 for my own lappy. i have not seen anything about it other than smaller chassis and SLI. I assume once Sandy Bridge is released the configs will alter to accommodate the new processors and required motherboards? How much will the lower TDP affect battery life on a beast like this? Is waiting for Sandy Bridge worth a near year long wait in your opinions when I can buy a pretty good laptop for work in the 5100M to tide me over when I have been making do on my ancient T2400 powered Dell? Damn near pulled the trigger on an M17x before I edumacated myself on the UniWill chassis and Dell drop in quality. Now Alienware seems grossly overpriced, though I dig the backlit screen. Oh, is it possible to buy a backlit screen and replace the one on the Clevo? Thanks!!

 

First, - welcome (officially ) to the forum!
We don't know yet when x7200 will appear, but most likely in a month-two from now. Unless Clevo plays a totally different strategy and delays it till Sandy...
Anyway, if you need a decent battery life, you might consider waiting till the new platform, since the current config won't be upgradeable to Sandy. The new processors will have a TDP of 95W (except for the extremes) compared to 130W of the Bloomfields.
Personally, I'm very interested in x7200 (or the SB variant/refresh), especially if they can offer good Anti Glare screens.
You can replace the D900F' screen panel easily but not sure if there are many compatible 16:9 screens for x7200.
Might have to wait a few months.


On a side note,
I don't think you can claim that AW has dropped the quality.
The build quality of M17X/M15X is nothing short of amazing. The cooling is slightly behind Clevo's but still very good. The RGB LED screen is totally superb and cannot be even remotely compared to the WLEDs and CCFLs.
What lacks is a flawless SLI/CF implementation but that's a general problem with multi GPU configs - they are not perfect.
The third party outsourcing companies hired by Dell/AW for on-site support is a total FAIL, IMHO. But when you have a nice warranty - who cares.

 

Thanks! Interesting info on the AW. And I totally spaced on the backlit screen. I meant to type backlit keyboard. That's what I get for posting on a forum after being in the 115 degree heat all day!
After checking out the Wiki on SB, I truly do hope they either delay the release or come out with a beast like the x7200 with those chips. The savings at 95W would be nice.

On your side note, regarding the problem with dual GPU's, what would you do? Go for the Fermi 480? Or chance an SLI config. Btw, I am leaning toward Nvidia, strictly because of the quality of their drivers for Linux. Drivers aside, what is your preference? ATI or NVidia? I can't imagine a single GPU with 2 GB GDDR5 not being enough for my needs.

 

I happened to have the relevant experience under linux.
Mobile SLI and CF have a very poor performance there. I'd say 0 performance gain with the CF/SLI ON vs OFF.
I tried GTX280M with the latest drivers and got the same scores in all Phoronix tests and glxgears both in single and SLI mode [Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04]. No difference. Same with 4870's and 5870's. However, with the latest ATI drivers both 4870 and 5870 performed significantly better than 280M in synthetics like Lightsmark.
I wouldn't say that Nvidia has better drivers for linux now (it was true in the past).
Also, keep in mind that 480M is still very fresh to work flawlessly under linux. It would be good if someone from the 480M owners could try it and provide some feedback.

Personally, I'd rather go for ATI, but that's because I had to much hassle with the Greens in the past year