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    *** Official Clevo x7200 and Sager NP7280 owners lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by italian.madness, May 26, 2010.

  1. italian.madness

    italian.madness Notebook Consultant

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    I sell yachts. And if I manage to do good money before september I'd love to buy this new monster.

    Intel Desktop CPU, 480M sli, USB 3.0, but only 2xHD raid 0 as the 3rd tray I'll leave it empty 'cos this thing will be hot like hell..

    Who else will join the team?
    cheers
     
  2. fzhfzh

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    I'm too poor for this.

    Edit: Oh, and you should get some mod to move this to owner's lounge.
     
  3. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yeah but when the X7300 comes out your going to need to sell the other one ..

    I can see you running out of options rather quickly ....
     
  4. f4ding

    f4ding Laptop Owner

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    So this xwing or xxx or what ever they call it will come out in September?
     
  5. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    It has to be hard for most to determine whether or not they will buy this until they actually see accurate pricing info.
     
  6. Hobo

    Hobo Notebook Geek

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    I am going to guess that the price in Norway for a high specced X7200 will be around 8000 dollars if it lands at about 4000-5000$ in the US :/
     
  7. MALIBAL

    MALIBAL Company Representative

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    She will be mine. Oh yes - she will be mine. :D
     
  8. Purlpo

    Purlpo Notebook Evangelist

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    It shouldn't be so expensive with a i7 920 and dual 5870's. All of you people planning to buy it with the i7 980X and Dual 480 GTX's are plain crazy on my view...
     
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    Consider paying at least 1k $ extra for 480M SLI above the same config with 5870's in CF. Yaiks....
    And there's still a huge doubt regarding performance.
    465 proved to be in the 5770-5830 spectrum range and on par with GTX275. Underclock it by 40% and you hardly have even a 5770's level. 480M could be even inferior to MR5870, stock to stock.
     
  10. Hobo

    Hobo Notebook Geek

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    I doubt that Aikimox, even tho you are saying this in like every thread. Seems like a little ATI fanboy ^^, I must agree tho, the nvidia pricing is just stupid, but are we sure X7200 is going to be sold with crossfire HD 5870? When it comes to performance between ATI cards and Nvidia cards I have owned a lot of different types, and it always seems that Nvidia has better driver support which gives it the edge, even tho ati cards are supposed to get regular driver updates now (hopefully this will happen).
     
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    Dual 480Ms at this point makes no sense but if I were to buy a desktop proc for a notebook it better be the 980X otherwise I'd just stick with the mobile procs.
     
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    Jasp Notebook Evangelist

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    Clevos website doesn't even list the X7200 as coming with 5870s, just sli 480m..
     
  13. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    We all are fanboys of something ;)
    I've had many Nvidia and ATI cards for the past 15 years and never had a strong feeling towards Greens or Reds. The biggest frustration for me was recently with Nvidia 2xxM series. The biggest positive surprise - 4870/5870. I'm willing to wait and see what does 4xxM have to surprise us with, but after watching many reviews of the desktop 4xx vs 5xxx series, have many doubts.
    I still hope that x7200 will offer a CF option and anti-glare RGB LED screen. Otherwise, will see what SB has to offer ;)
     
  14. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    One configuration I may build is...
    [​IMG]

    Base Unit: Clevo X7200
    Display: 17.3" Full HD display 120Hz 3D with 3.0M pixels Video Camera
    Processor: Intel Core i7-980X Extreme Edition 12MB Smart Cache
    Video & Graphics Card: Dual (SLI) nVIDIA GeForce GTX 480M (Fermi) with 2GB VRAM
    Memory: 6GB Triple Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 3 X 2GB
    Operating System: None - Drivers & Utility Software Only
    RAID Storage Options: RAID - None Enabled
    Primary Hard Disk Drive: 160GB Intel G2 SSD
    2nd Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm 2nd Hard Disk Drive
    3rd Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm 3rd Hard Disk
    Optical Drive: 6X Blue-Ray Burner/Reader / 8X DVDRW Super Multi drive
    Wireless Network Card: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N
    Bluetooth: Internal Bluetooth v3.0 +EDR module
    Primary Battery: Removable Polymer Smart Lithium-Ion battery pack 88.8WH
    HDMI in module
    S/PDIF digital output
    Built in microphone
    Built in five speakers
    Built-in one sub woofer
    Dolby Home Theater
    I/O Ports
    2x USB 3.0 ports
    3x USB 2.0 ports
    1x HDMI output port
    1x DVI-I output port
    1x e-SATA port
    1x S/PDIF output jack
    1x Headphone jack
    1x Microphone jack
    1x Mini IEEE 1394b port
    1x Line-in jack
    1x RJ-45 LAN port
    1x DC-in jack
    1x CATV input jack
    One HDMI in port
    Card Reader
    3-in-1 Card Reader
    - MS / MS Pro / MS Duo
    - SD / Mini-SD / SDHC / SDXC compatible
    - MMC / RSMMC
     
  15. s0ysauce45

    s0ysauce45 Notebook Evangelist

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    Thats gonna be quite a beast..
     
  16. Larry@LPC-Digital

    Larry@LPC-Digital Company Representative

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    "The Core i7 970 should launch in Q3 2010" is what they are saying. Probably by July.
     
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    I'm looking into the schematic diagrams of the d900c (ancient relic) from its technical manuals. It seems that the d900c had a charger circuit which could accept an ACin input from the external power supply capable of generating 54W of power (3.2A, 16.8v) . If you recall, the power supply of the d900c was only 220W (11A 20V). When plugged in, the system could use both power circuits for a maximum of 255W indicated on the schematics. The x7200 should have something similar since it also definitely has a charger circuit. This might mean that the 300W external power supply is just half the story and sufficient to power all the components when the internal power circuitry is taken into account. Still looking into it, pretty confusing stuff.
     
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    Pretty much the same spec that I have been looking at babyhemi (not sure about 3D stuff tho). Still think the price for that is going to be like 7000-8000 dollars here in Norway :p
     
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    If I were to buy a desktop CPU for a notebook it'd be a socket LGA1156 for the lower TDP...like the 95W i7-875K.
     
  20. f4ding

    f4ding Laptop Owner

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    Does it work? Sounds like something that I should try.


    This x7200 can't come out faster eh?. Is it coming out at the same time as the 480M (middle of June)?
     
  21. freedom16

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    So is the screen going to be LED or still CCFL? Amazing sexy design, only place to get a lease for this beast is Eurocom, so should i trade my G73JH for a D900F or wait for this beast and sell the Asus and the other comps i have been selling.
     
  22. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    LED screens for sure no CCFL ... They will probably have 2 options for screens one being the same thing you have in your G73 and then the 120hz one....

    Dump the Asus and grab a new one of these since i see your crazy about notebooks, i doubt you would be happy with a single GPU solution 480 knowing that you could have had 2 of them :)...

    Sure it will cost a small fortune but by the looks of things you already have that tied up in your sig...

    These new cards sound amazing other then the price and i have nothing bad to say about them at all other then the cost :D...
     
  23. fzhfzh

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    Between a 5770-5830 in vantage yes, but that's a directx10 and below benchmark without tessellation 400 series is built for. If you would see the directx 11 game benchmarks like dirt 2, the 465's performance matches a desktop 5870.
     
  24. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    That's a good point! I wish that could hold true for most games.
    At this point my biggest interest is in the load temps of the 480M. Guess we'll see the first hands-on in 5 days from now @Computex. Should be very interesting.
     
  25. Hobo

    Hobo Notebook Geek

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    Ja, blir vel noe sånt, stakkars lommebok. I hvert fall bra at jeg har mulighet å bestille gjennom bedrift så jeg får trekt fra moms og skatt...

    For all the English people:
    Yes something like that, poor wallet. At least I can buy it through a company so I can take of the tax and VAT from the price... :p

    Core 980X = 8000-9000kr and GTX 480M = 7500kr x 2 = 15000kr =23500kr just this.
    Barebone is probably 15000kr (with bluetooth, 6GB ram and 500gb hdd), one SSD Intel Gen2 160GB around 3800kr, blu-ray about 700kr and probably some extra for 120hz 3d monitor (mabye 2000kr extra?)
    Everything together would be about 45000kr = $6847,75. All just speculations of course. :rolleyes:
     
  26. freedom16

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    Yes i agree what your saying, first time quoting, lazy sometimes lolz. I am selling a few myself three of them and then going to save up and find me a job and then buy the comp, i like my Asus a lot, going to get me an m11x though wish people would trade but better to sell it due to credit card payment. I will lease the X7200 from Eurocom since they are the only ones who do it. Damn will these notebooks ever stop coming out with the economy? lol. I really like this design a lot better and i think a cross-fire setup will be better, i have never had a dual setup before. But also the cooling for the G73JH is still no superb from what i have seen, that is why i love using many different notebooks. This clevo and the D900F will have amazing cooling, and i will so get the 120HZ screen tv screen in comp awesome, i really hope its rgbled and a matte screen seriously this company needs to get its act together and start listening more to its consumers. I really don't like the current alienware designs and you don't need a huge notebook to have CFX and not as thick anyway. Noise is not much of an issue.
     
  27. anexanhume

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    Much more interested in the x8100 if it does indeed get cf 5870 or sli 480Ms for the bigger screen at roughly same weight unless price is negligible in difference. No need for desktop CPUs in games. Have to admit I like the design of the x7200 a lot more though.
     
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    I would love to see an 18,4'' with a desktop cpu and a better sli/cf set-up... SLI 285M needs to be swapped out! :)

    And the redesign looks quite nice, I always felt the D900F looked like a brick (even though it did what it was suppose to do it does not have to look that boring/bad :p )
     
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    Anybody stumble upon any high res, close up images of the x7200? Besides the ones on Clevo, Eurocom and Style note (those do not show much).
     
  30. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    In 4 days you'll get the images, I believe.
     
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    Bad news the GTX 480M don't seem so powerful than that. Yesterday, I saw that the new gtx 480M offering up 897 gigaflops but i return on nvidia website today and oddly it offer only 598 gigaflops. So this card will be less powerful than the quadro FX 3800M (648 gigaflops) and of course the ati 5870M (1120 gigaflops but it's another architecture). We must see the benchmark for confirm that but how disappointing this new fermi GPU!!! :mad2:
     
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    raw computational power != performance.
     
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    I agree but i would like compare the ATi and Nvidia Mobile and Desktop like this: the ati 5870 offer 2720GFLOPS and the 5870M offer 1120GFLOPS so it represent about 41.1%. For nvidia gtx 480 has1344.96GFLOPS and the gtx 480m 598.4GFLOPS it's represent 44.5%. So finally the GTX 480M will beat the 5870M of 13%. It is less than I expected for a price of 800$ while the 4870M cost about 400$. You have all the prices here :Clevo x7200 .
    And It should be remembered than the ati has a TDP of 60W and the GTX 480M 100W. It also important for a laptop. And if you would like more power I guess it possible to overlock the 5870M more easily than the nvidia with 100W

    Sorry for price's link: Clevo x7200
     
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    Wow.

    (in dollars)
    GTX480 - $735.30
    GTX480 (SLI) - $1,470.60

    5870 - $449.63
    5870 (SLI) - $899.39
     
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    Damn, that's some painful wallet bleed there.
     
  36. Aikimox

    Aikimox Weihenstephaner!

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    Well, if the difference between the 5870CF and 480M SLI is only 500-600$, it might be not too bad ( if 480M beats MR5870 by at least 20-25%)
    Still...painful..
     
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    It would have to beat it by a scalable 40%-50% at least for me to even want to drop that kind of cash on those.
     
  38. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    The 480M in SLI, is not for the value type consumer at all. It will be for ones who are used to spending over $3,500 for a high end notebook. Believe it or not there are quite a few of us that do....expensive hobby... ;)
     
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    Believe it or not? I just dropped 3000$ on another M17x with 5870's. I have 30 days from the date it ships to me to be satisfied with it. Gives me some time to hopefully see some benches from the 480M's as well as real world power consumption. If I am very impressed I would not hesitate to pick up a new laptop with a pair of them. But I will need to be very impressed to spend that kind of dough.
     
  40. Larry@LPC-Digital

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    I hope that we will know that before your 30 days are up, but I don't think we will have any SLI numbers for the 480M by then. As for the single 480M, hopfully we will have some reliable numbers by the middle of June..hopefully.
     
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    Well I just ordered yesterday and my laptop probably wont ship for another two weeks, so that brings me to the beginning of or maybe close to the middle of July as the last day of the return deadline, depending on how long it takes to ship out.
     
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    It's not the initial sticker price that's bothersome---

    It's the depreciation! At this pricepoint, the system could lose it's resale value by 50% in no time...which sucks when it's time to upgrade again (in six months at most for those on the bleeding edge).
     
  43. Aikimox

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    That's enough time to see some benches. 1st of June @Computex some info might become available.
    I'm in the same boat, m8. Ordered an HP with Dream Color 2 IPS anti glare screen and it will ship @ the end of June.
    Provided, X7200 has a decent screen option (non-glare) and 480M kicks some... - I might cancel the current order and go for a Clevo.
     
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    Wow you will also go for a Clevo i am about to trade for that 15.6 one you were talking about getting before. I might as well just save up for this beast i could go for Nvidia cause i do like the company a lot but its way over price and overkill. I hope they have a decent dream color IPS panel similar, i miss those sagers with Matte screens!
     
  45. Aikimox

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    They probably won't have an IPS and maybe not even a WLED matte... But if it will be at least replaceable, - I don't mind. AW killed that option with its brilliant E2E... :(
     
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    Clevo has been going for the clear super glossy type screens for most of systems. My AOU screen is that on the W870CU, very crisp and colors are vibrant .... I like it and if the x7200 has this screen I'll buy it, but I hope to get the 120Hz 3D one...personal preference of course.
     
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    Man I hope they offer an RGB LED screen. If I do end up with the x7200, it would be difficult to not have one anymore.
     
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    Screw that; let's have a IPS or MVA screen. Matte, please.
     
  49. Aikimox

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    That would be too good... I'd switch to Clevo forever, lol.
     
  50. Kevin

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    I must be behind on the news...

    Where is this 120Hz LCD news coming from?
     
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