*** Official Clevo X170KM-G/Sager NP9672M Owner's Lounge ***

Intel really did not make this decision easier with going down to 8 cores. If somebody had asked me before Rocket Lake information was first leaked I would have expected Intel to stay with 10 cores or even go up to 12.

 

just ordered last week waiting to ship.
configured
10th Generation Intel Core i9-10850K Processor ( 10 Cores, 20MB Smart Cache, 3.60GHz Base / 5.20GHz Max )
- 17.3" Full HD 300Hz, Wide View Angle 72% NTSC Matte Display with G-SYNC Technology (1920 x 1080)
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 GPU with 16GB GDDR6 Video Memory
- Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- Windows® 10 Pro 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled
- Windows® 10 64-Bit Edition USB Recovery Media
- 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 SDRAM at 3200MHz - 2 X 16GB
- 2TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
- Killer Dual Band Wireless-AX 1650X M.2 Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module

 

Ah, sorry man. Mine is all packed up ready to be shipped back to Sager due to cosmetic defects in the chassis. They will be sending me a new replacement supposedly. Still waiting on confirmation, otherwise it'll be a straight return & reordering again. So might be a little while!

 

Thermal grizzly has no use on any laptop, get phobya nanogrease.

 

Thank you!
1) run the monitor at full refresh rate
2) maybe enable windowed G-sync to roll out every possibility
3) try to hold the camera as close as possible for the 3 lines to be visible
4) please make both picture ad video (at at least 60 fps) and upload it somewhere where is no or only minimal quality loss. For the video youtube will be good since that's the easiest.

Thank you for doing the test !

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/gWQRR0M25q4?feature=share



Here you go

 

Maybe in single core benchmarks but probably not in multi core loads. Not so sure you’ll see any of the OEMs will let it run free and pull up to +-250w power as the equivalent Intel desktop CPUs

 

Would it be possible to get a B173ZAN03.3 120hz 4K panel in one of these?

 

Will the 11th gen be a new model, BIOS flash, or is it already supported?

(Edit) I just found enough information to answer this on the following pages of the discussion.. Sorry for beating the horse again.

 

It's natively supported on the KM-G.

 

Because of imperfect heatsink contact? That's quite a categorical no.

 

Is this a problem on the SM ?

Is there a way to turn off overdrive with prema bios?

 

Hi,

I watched Bob of all trades videos on this model. I remember seeing/hearing him mention a Mr.Foxrox mod, but I can't find more information on it. Can you point me at where to learn more about this?

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Thank you for doing the test! Was windowed G-Sync active?
Do I remember correctly, that you have the 300 Hz panel?

I will be honest, I am not sure about the result. I do not see any significant corona effect, however I can not roll out the possibility of overdrive not being active because the image should be smudgy due to the IPS "slow" response time.

MaxxDamage on another forum made a similar test with the SM-G (240 Hz panel):



Here the corona effect is much more visible, expesially at the 3rd line. You can clearly see extra white outline on the left side.

So I am guessing 2 things:
1) LCD overdrive is disabled and the panel and the image is not smudgy because the panel has 1 ms response time
2) LCD overdrive is active, however Clevo fine tuned it so it is much more tolerable and almost perfect

We can roll out option 1) since this panel obviously does not have 1 ms response time. If I remember correctly tests show 5-10 ms response time which is quite good for laptops, but not good enough for the image to be this sharp.
I believe Clevo tuned overdrive down from Extreme to normal which makes the image sharp and reduces the corona effect.

If we compare the 2 pictures I think the KM is better on this part than the SM.

What do you guys think?

ps: If anyone has a KM with a 144 Hz panel, could you please do this same test so we could see that panel too? Thank you!

@Prema

 

Comparing those 2 pictures, it does look like KM has less corona effect. Looks a bit cleaner.

I wonder if there is a way to change the settings, and if the settings stay locked for people that have changed panels?

 

If you are talking about overdrive and the like that's embedded on the LCD controller.

 

So is the overdrive settings on the LCD controller user adjustable ?

And do you know if the X170 SM-G LCD overdrive settings different than the X170 KM-G ?

 

No, overdrive settings are not adjustable on Clevo laptops. Most laptop manufacturers have their own software to control cpu, gpu and the fans, in Clevo's case this is Clevo Control Center. Other manufacturers give the option to toggle overdrive on/off in their software, however Clevo is stubborn and still does not offer this option. Because of this Clevo is the one who decides if overdrive is active or not and if yes then what level because this setting is stored in the bios which is not user accessable.

 

No because it's a awful paste and isn't suited for high temp laptops.

 

It's doing ok on my 8700k since 2018. You have to repaste of course to maintain top performance.

 

@Papusan @Mr. Fox can probably explain and link the comparison they made

 

I know there are better non-LM alternatives, but 'awful' seems quite strong. But I'm always open to education

 

Sorry for the harsh word;
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nd-apply-traditional-and-liquid-metal.806840/ i think it's in here

 

That is interesting. So if one were to have an X170 that ran the Prema bios would that give you access to those settings?

And what about running Obsidian tools instead of CCC to run the lights and fans etc, would that give a user control over those settings?

 

I don't think the KM series are officially supported as Obsidian tools is practically EOL since the end of 2020.

 

It's certainly on long term hold so I don't believe it does that anyway.

 

Did something change on the X170KM? I had no issues using Obsidian Tools for LED and fan controls with the X170. CCC is pretty horrible and I'd go out of my way to use something else if it were available. Either Obsidian Tools or Brother @S.K CCC mod. I'd rather not have LED and fan controls than have CCC installed. It's utter trash, just as Alienware Command Center, MSI Dragon Center, and all of the other brands of bloatware trash the laptop OEMs provide. All of them got a helluva lot worse when they started kissing Micro$lop's butt with the UWP filth from the $tore.

 

Obsidian Tools might still work perfectly on the KM, but I thought its last official update was the SM.

 

@Mr. Fox: Hi Mr.Fox! Could you point me to where to read about your mod for the X170? I heard about it in Bob of all trades' video on the X170SM-G, but couldn't find more information.

 

https://ztecpc.com/ they have it exclusivly

Mr. Fox developed PROPRIETARY 3x3 Thermal Mods for the zT-X170SM-G that include:
1. A 3-Part Hardware Mod to the Heat Sink and
2. A 3-Part Barrier for Containment of Liquid Meta

The results are what matter. Used with either Phobya NanoGrease Extreme or Coollaboratory Liquid Pro, these mods SUBSTANTIALLY drop the out of box heavy load temp

In addition to the mods Mr. Fox developed, NotebookReview notebook enthusiasts jc_denton and Papusan taught us how to 'bake' Coollaboratory Liquid Pro into the heatsink to saturate it for longer life.s.l,

 

Hi,
Yes, this is mentioned in the video. However, I'm not sure what exactly the mod is.

Edit: Please ignore this! I commented before seeing the other comment.

 

Great! Thanks!

 

So if a person bought an SM they could still run Obsidian tools for the all of the lighting ?

 

Normally you can still use all features of Obsidian Tools. I have a P775TM not a X170 so I wouldn't know 100% of course. Problems might arise with new Windows updates etc.

 

Anyone have a guess as to when a 3080 Super might be coming out for laptops?

 

When nvidias mouth has a leak again perhaps.

 

About 6 to 8 months after it is released for desktops.

 

If they even can produce the chips for that sort of model.

 

Does anyone know how HiDevolution is offering custom Prema BIOS for their Evoc x170km-g if others have said Prema hasn't updated it yet...? Are they running the same Prema BIOS from the sm-g, shipping it with stock and updating it later, or do they actually have a new Prema BIOS for the km-g?

 

Prema is working on a new BIOS for the KM-G. I think partner vendors will flash it remotely once it's available.

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Yes

 

Thanks

 

Hi guys. It’s been ages since I posted here.
I’m about pull the trigger on this beast, but I have two questions.

Is it worth all the extra money to get the 11900K for gaming, compared to the 11700K?

Should I get a 300 hertz display? I don’t see the point when it has G-sync and you’re playing games where you get 60 to 90 FPS.

 

Depends what games you play. You could even get a cherry picked 11900k along the road and stick to a 11700k for now.

 

9/10 game gains about +2 fps. Totally not worth it imo. Both are 8 cores + 16 threads, 11900k not worth the extra +2 fps.

 

I already placed the order for the 11900k equipped beast.

Silly me.

Now to figure out how to pay for it. Are blood banks open during the pandemic?

 

I don’t understand why Nvidia can’t give us a 200W RTX 3080.
Even worse, the memory bandwidth is about the same as the 2080. They couldn’t even be bothered to use GDDR6X. So frustrating.

 

Given the limited power and how hungry GDDR6X that might not be the case.

 

Touche.

All I know is, the mobile RTX 3080 only has slightly more memory bandwidth than my GTX 1080, while the desktop 3080 version has tons more bandwidth.

 

On the other hand, it is almost impossible to find a RTX 3080 desktop card, except from scalpers.