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    **Official Clevo W350ETQ / Sager NP6350 Owner's Lounge**

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by jaug1337, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    Even with ThrottleStop?
     
  2. 3ror

    3ror Notebook Enthusiast

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    i will try and post later
    Kombustor+ ThrottleStop temp CPU 88-94 CPUstart to throttle
     
  3. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Post a screen shot of how you have ThrottleStop setup so I can see what it shows when it starts to throttle.
     
  4. 3ror

    3ror Notebook Enthusiast

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    screen.jpg i attach screen with all
     
  5. extide

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    Hrmm, that certainly is a bit odd... I don' think anyone else has seen that specific throttling scenario.
     
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    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    The CPU started throttling at 90c in the notebookcheck review as well. Mine should be arriving tomorrow so I should have more info by the weekend.
     
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    3ror Notebook Enthusiast

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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Terrans Force W3x0ET score: P3021 3DMarks ThrottleStop active. CPU temp rise to 90-91 but didn't throttle, and also fan not always full speed
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Terrans Force W3x0ET score: 17713 3DMarks temp 94-95 in CPU test
    Ambient temperatures 27. i guess if change paste and lower temperature can overclock GPU more but need a a software to not limit to +135Mhz the GPU.
     
  8. Netherwind

    Netherwind Notebook Evangelist

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    Is it true this notebook has an mini pcie slot underneath the keyboard that is not for wlan? I heard something about it was being offered with an msata SSD on some websites.
     
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    There's another slot, but I'm pretty sure its for 3g or something.
     
  10. Netherwind

    Netherwind Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah that's what I heard, I also heard that the sim card pads and such were never fully implemented? So there's no way to actually add 3g to it.

    Just thought it was odd supposedly some place was offering it w/ an msata SSD, and if clevo left usb running to the pads, you could set up a usb 3g adapter in the extra space of the laptop and no one would know :p
     
  11. 3ror

    3ror Notebook Enthusiast

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    the socket for sim card can be access from the battery bay
     
  12. jaug1337

    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    No mSATA sorry, simply not enough room once it holds 2 HDD's.

    This.
     
  13. Irishtrekkie

    Irishtrekkie Notebook Enthusiast

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    hmm looks like its time for me to put an order in and make up my mind., read the German review on notebookcheck.com.
    hmm still in a half a mind over his W350ETQ or a y580.
     
  14. neTed

    neTed Notebook Enthusiast

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    Same here, it's a tough choice. But I like the 2HDD, different wifi card and a matte screen option. University also gives me the OS for free.
    The lenovo seems more compact and nicer design overall.
     
  15. Netherwind

    Netherwind Notebook Evangelist

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    I've heard bad things about the Lenovo Y series laptops, that they're poorly designed and build quality is subpar at best.
     
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    jaug1337 de_dust2

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    Yes several people have reported that, the reviews are not the best but hey the machines are good though.

    Check the Lenovo sub-forum (in case someone was wondering) :D ty for the info backup Netherwind

    P.S. This machine beats the Y580 in every petition, unless you count battery life (I think).. the Clevo has a much more solid construction too, very sturdy
     
  17. neTed

    neTed Notebook Enthusiast

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    Question: If I get a HDD + SSD, what's the best way to set them up?
    Let's say I get the Crucial M4 or a Intel 520. Should I put them in RAID 0 and activate SSD Caching in some way?
     
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    I personally am not for SSD Caching. No don't raid at all. Put the OS and some import things on the SSD (which will be your main drive) and then direct everything else onto your HDD.

    My pictures, downloads, documents and the whole Steam folder is on my HDD, with my SSD only being filled up 50GB due to Photoshop + OS and a few other things. But you can modify it your way.
     
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    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    RAID 0 is not the same as caching. Don't RAID 0 a SSD and a HDD.
     
  20. neTed

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    How should I set it up then?
     
  21. Heihachi_1337

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    One of 2 options really:

    1) Keep the laptop in AHCI mode and install your OS and important software on the SSD, storage of all documents, spreadsheets, etc. on the HDD. This is the most common configuration.

    2) Configure the SSD for caching, there are some benefits to it. The big one being that there is only a single drive to keep track of everything with. The performance gains are evident, but for die hard performance enthusiasts that run benchmarks, they will tell you it is only a marginal gain. To do caching, it will need to be set to RAID in BIOS but you do NOT RAID the drives together in any manner. IRST can help you with the rest for caching.

    I would not, in any form, recommend setting up an SSD and HDD in RAID 0 together or any form of RAID other than the above mentioned as it can only lead to disaster. If it was HDD + HDD in RAID or SSD+SSD in RAID, I can see that. HDD + SSD in RAID 0 though, or even RAID 1 there is enough of a physical difference plus how the drives handle data that it would just cause a mess.
     
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    Assuming 25-40% brightness, wifi on, integrated graphics with speedstep on, can I get through a full school day? assuming like 9-3 with like 2 hours of offtime total.
     
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    With a SSD and brightness low I would assume 3-4 hours. Hard to say really. Depends on a lot of things :)
     
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    Really? 3-4 hours? That's it? I'm ashamed at Clevo's power management then. It should easily last longer than that with 77whr, but I did read something on Anandtech talking about how the system idles at 20w instead of 11w like it should. Clevo doesn't seem to care.
     
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    Quick update: Actually notebookchecks review shows 4 hours and 30 minutes with WLAN and approx. 5 hours+ without WLAN
     
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    I'll have to see if they list what the brightness/power plan was set to.
     
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    starfly Notebook Guru

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    Hi, I'm considering getting a Clevo W350ETQ, already did a lot of research and especially like the screen quality.

    What I'm curious about though, how is the keyboard? I will need to do a lot of typing, in addition to multimedia tasks and photo processing/editing. And I will also do a lot of data entry in Excel, so also would like to know about how well the Numpad is in day to day use. I will also be spending regular hours in the library so wonder how loud the keyboard is.

    Any replies would be welcome. Thanks!
     
  29. 3ror

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    the keyboard is quite OK ,and not noisy. i don't like the touch pad because the sharp edges of the laptop , but typing for me is ok (i don't make to much typing) buttons for touch pad are very noisy and unpleasant to press
     
  30. kingfirejet

    kingfirejet Notebook Consultant

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    I need help. What's better this Clevo W350ETQ vs. MSI GE60 vs. Lenovo Y580 ?????
    In terms of build quality, battery life, gaming (Plugged,Unplugged), Sound, Screen?
    (MSI GE60 and Clevo both have nVidia GTX 660m)
     
  31. jaug1337

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    Exclude the Lenovo Y580.

    The only REAL difference between the MSI and Clevo is looks.

    Check THIS W350ETQ review and THIS GE60 review out ;)
     
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    lilletiffe Newbie

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    I'm considering this Clevo W350 with a i5-3210 and gtx660m. However, I read the test and it seems Clevo is still throttling the cpu whilst gtx660m is activated :(

    I have Day-Z in mind (but not only dayz of course) when buying a new laptop - and DayZ is very cpu intensive.
    Anyone have any experience with this game on this particular laptop?
    Cheers :) And btw, awesome site.
     
  33. Netherwind

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    Throttlestop fixes the problem with the cpu throttling. I'd suggest the bump to the quad if you can, well worth the $70.
     
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    I completely agree.

    Quad Core really makes you future proof too :)
     
  35. tuga_usa

    tuga_usa Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello

    I've been reading the forum and am now upgrading from a M860TU to this model with just an SSD of 128GB.

    I've never used a computer with just a disk of that type so what I was wondering is if there is any special care that I should take with it since I'm going to install the OS and everything else at home!

    thanks!
     
  36. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    You install programs just like you do a regular drive but do want to make some change to limit unnecessary read/write theres a free program called SSD tweaker which will do pretty much all of it for you.
     
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    Throttlestop. Sounds good. But will the laptop's fan be able to deal with the extra heat without shutting down after several hours of gaming?

    The shop in my country haven't announced the quad core option yet, but I can almost guarantee it will cost me a lot more than $70 extra here in Norway :( I keep hearing that dual core is more than enough in games since they can't utilize more than one core anyway. Not quite up to speed if this is the truth or not, though, and something I may have to double check before doing the purchase. But my first thoughts was to just update the cpu in the future since it's very easy to change components on Clevo compared to other brands.

    Thanks for letting me know of throttlestop :)
     
  38. Ulver

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    Man, don't buy your laptop in Norway the prices are CRAZY! Of course salary is also crazy :D Just order your laptop from Germany or UK. Norway is part of EEA so if I understand correctly you won't need to pay taxes.
     
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    Hey guys I am looking to buy the NP6350. I have a budget of $1000 and on xoticpc when I put windows 7 and a matte screen on it, it comes out to be $1,059. So my question is; is it worth the extra $70 to install an i7 even though I am already over my budget? I will be using it for games and college work so I don't think I need the extra cores. What do you guys think?
     
  40. sha7bot

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    The i7 is worth it. As more and more programs become multi-threaded you'll only see more usage out of that processor.

    Also, as more games pick up DirectX 11, you'll see a greater advantage to that processor as well.

    Save for a few more weeks, or hit up your parents for an early Christmas present!
     
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    I'm also maybe gonna buy this laptop but I'm afraid of the quality of the laptop. Which is better this or the ASUS N56VZ?
     
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    ASUS are well built machines, but can be heavy and expensive. They have great keyboards, but are difficult to upgrade.

    Sager/Clevo are generally the best bang for your buck, are lighter, and easier to upgrade, but they don't have the quality of the ASUS.
     
  43. R3d

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    That's for the asus G series. I wouldn't be surprised if the N56VZ is lighter than the W350ETQ. imo the Sager is better just because you can repaste it easily, but the asus certainly looks better.
     
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    Sorry for imposing, but I'm having a tough time choosing between the NP9150 and the NP6350.
    I am leaning towards the NP6350 but until reviews tell me if the keyboard is better/worse/same than the NP9150 - I'm really stuck.
    The NP9150 has a problem where in games multi-touch does not respond (space bar + 2 other keys for example) and that sounds damn annoying.

    I have a thread laying out my thoughts here.
    I'd appreciate if any of you Sager dudes could have a look!
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/wha...689766-np6350-vs-np9150-trouble-deciding.html
     
  45. djohnson17

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    Okay thanks, I think I will just fork up the $70 if it is be a really good idea. Hopefully it will be worth it for the next 5 years :)
     
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    Can anyone answer the above? :)
     
  48. R3d

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    It doesn't shut down with ThrottleStop. Make sure your paste is good and applied correctly though. With ICD the CPU stayed under 90c and the GPU under 80c after a couple hours of BF3 (which is about as intensive a game as it gets).
     
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    Thanks a ton! :)
     
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    Ordered mine this weekend, stock on the chassis isn't in until the 10th, so I should receive it around the 18th, so excited - going to be rather pimp after I've had my way with it. Upgrading the RAM to 24Gb of Crucial, 128Gb Samsung 830 for boot, 120Gb Intel 330 for VHD storage and 1Tb for general storage\VM storage disks. :)
     
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