*** Official Clevo W230ST/Sager NP7330 Owner's Lounge ***

Not sure if that is of any help, but the i7-4702 IS compatible with Intel XTU in the MSI GE40 (which is soon to be replaced by the W230ST, ordered with this CPU also) I think compatibility is more a system/motherboard than CPU issue.

 

XTU support is dependant on the system and not the CPU unless you are talking about multiplier options.

 

Thanks, if it's that way I'll be ordering next week <3 4702qm + 8GB + 128GB SDD (sata) should be enough to start with, still got the SSD and thus I'll be able to get away with less than a thousand euros


Hawkforce posted this on their facebook-account: They also seem to ship the chimei pannel
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...36053.111261985610131&type=1&relevant_count=1


Schenker-Notebooks will start offering the w230st on 7th this month, according to the mysn-representative on a german support board.

 

Hey guys, just got my laptop, and I'm still installing drivers for Windows 7. A few questions though: Do I need to install "MEI Drivers"? Cuz it gives me an error message saying "The setup program failed to install one of more device drivers. Setup will exit." Is this something I need with my stock computer config (everything's stock except the Intel AC 7260 wifi card).

Secondly, what about audio drivers? Do I have to install something before installing the optional SB Cinema EQ?

Thirdly, from the optional, I installed Webcam, IRST Driver, and Rapid Start Driver. Do I need to install WLAN, Combo BT, 3G or Intel WiDi?

Thanks guys! Will run those tests as soon as I finish these drivers

 

Or r if you can't wait

Seriously it's just an infinitely superior router.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

 

Ok, tried uploading the photos but they're too big.

If you guys wanna see anything specific, I'll take some more pics and edit the images so they fit. Just let me know.

 

I had that same issue ECKS. I will have to remember what I did for the MEI drivers and let you know as soon as I recall.

You only nee WLAN if you have one of the Intel 6235 or 6300 cards or stock one. Only install BT if you have bluetooth, 3G if you have 3G, and WiDi if your card supports WiDi

 

How loud is the fan on full load? Is it loud like the Alienware 14's which sound like a hair dryer?

 

^It's real close but not as loud IMO.

 

just wondering, would this keyboard protector work with the w230st, thanks
TPU Keyboard Cover Skin Protector for Asus S46C S46E F401 X401 X401A X401U X401E | eBay
and the original laptop keyboard:
http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/...board picture_ASUS/nu016-x401-description.jpg

 

Whats the difference between buying from mythlogic compared to buying from something like xotic pc? Right now the clevo is around $200 more expensive on mythlogic and I don't really know why. Thoughts?

 

Matt's advice in your review thread worked. A complete installation of .NET 4 is necessary... Windows truly is the lamest at making things easy on the consumer...

Same pitch But not that loud. If you're in a library, I don't imagine that it'd tick anyone off by the volume...Only the fact that it comes on intermittently if you don't lift up your lappy or have it on a cooler like some of us do. So far, mine hasn't been going on that much, nor that hard because I have it propped on top of a Cooler Master X-Slim (I have it powered on as well). If you're just doing moderate work, like word processing or checking stuff online, you could get away with just propping it up, I reckon.

 

Which 3DMark? You mean 3DMark Vantage? I downloaded wPrime. Will give them a try after playing some League of Legends, whenever this damned game finishes updating. I've been at or near my computer all day, just installing and updating stuff... Need some playtime Maybe I'll try those benchmarks tomorrow if that's ok with you? Also, I'm not gonna do a repaste till after I run those tests to see how the temps fare.

Oh yeah, IIRC, one of these programs showed the RPMs for my fans inside my Alienware M17xR3. Do you happen to know which of these does that? Cuz I checked HWInfo64 and HWMonitor, and neither one shows anything about the fan. You think maybe there's just no fan sensor in the Sager?

But, regarding the fan, for those who are curious: I have my lappy on top of a cooler right now, and I don't hear the fan at all after setting it to "Quiet Mode" on the Clevo/Sager Control Panel thingy. League of Legends is updating in the background, and Skype, Pidgin, AVG, SuperAntiSpyware, all running in background too. The temperature is 73F outside, and HWMonitor says that my notebook's temperature is 65C, CPU around 60-65C, HDD 50C. I'm assuming the GPU is off, because GPU-Z says that the GTX 765M has 796.9mhz/1002.4mhz clocks, 52C, but there's 0% load on it.

Lastly, the SB Cinema thing. is wrong with it? It installs, and then when I go to open it, it says "The current audio device is disabled, not present, not supported by the application, or has unplugged jack connections. Do you want to select another audio device now?" If I click YES, I get to another error that says "There is no supported audio device available." STRANGE!

I think this'll be my final post for the night, hahah. But seriously, GOT DANG! This screen is gorgeous, and I didn't even peel off the plastic cover yet! That's the Asian in me keeping it on till it peels off hahaha. Jk, I'll take it off tomorrow. Here's a picture from my HTC One, HDR mode, with my room light on. Doesn't look that great, but in person it's LOVELY Definitely gonna sleep well tonight

 

Hello

I recently noticed that Clevo Control Center disable Turbo Boost when on battery. My processor stuck on 800MHz no matter what option or power plan i choose. Does anybody know how to fix this ? Also when i uninstalled Clevo Control Center i don't have "Processor Cache Voltage Offset" option in Intel XTU. Strange things....

 

Temps hit 96 playing BF3... I'm a bit worried.

 

Yep, on battery it downclocks the CPU, not much you can do about it, that's how it rolls. Actually it should "boost" to like 1200MHz

Prop the laptop, underclock (3.0 to 3.2GHz), undervolt, limit fps to 60 or less. My CPU with that runs 75C with BF3. I was considering the 4702, but since I can limit my CPU to 3.0GHz and undervolt a bit, it seems to be running very cool.

Good find, looks like it should work.

Mythlogic builds their own PC's and offers their own service. They also customize their own BIOS to correct deficiencies in the stock one. XoticPC is a reseller like the many others out there, they manage the sale and after services issues so you don't have to deal direct with Sager.

The new 3DMark just called 3DMark, but most refer to it as 3DMark 13: http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmark

Thanks for your input on this!

 

Thanks. Actually it boost to 1400MHz when "user defined" profile is checked and Balanced or High Performance profile in Windows.

 

So I've been playing with mine a bit now..

First up happy to report screen is freaking awesome. I do have a tiny tiny bit of light bleeding in the bottom left corner, but outside of that it's perfect. 1080p looks great. If you have good eyesight, I don't think text will be a problem at normal scaling.

802.11 AC is pretty awesome too. Noticed signal strength is much improved.
I've done some file transferring at about ~30MBs too.

I picked a 4702 CPU. Max CPU temps at stock were about ~77.
Undervolted it now -100mv. Now it maxes at about 71.. Fans kick in and it comes back down.

Also I noticed Prime 95 stresses the CPU much harder than Intel XTU. With XTU I was able to go 5 mins at -125mv. Prime95 wouldn't last a minute at -110mv.

Keyboard is great. Trackpad is as good as i've used on any windows machine.
With the trackpad I've noticed 2 finger scrolling defaults to reverse, even though it's unchecked. You basically need to check it and uncheck it.. and even funnier, if you upgrade to the newer synaptics driver, it defaults to reverse scrolling... No idea why they are pushing this.

I will also say compared to my work laptop which is a Latitude e6230 with extended battery, this unit feels about the same weight and equally as portable. The pictures really make it look much thicker than what it actually is. It's probably because of the slope and feet.

Outside of that.. I have noticed a strange clicking sound (like a HDD) coming from the fan.. It only seems to occur if i grab the laptop or put it weird angles.. Not sure if it's a manufacturing defect... Seems pretty hard to trigger, but if it comes more annoying I might reach out to the vendor again.

 

I will be getting mine on Monday! Is it better to install drivers (Intel, Nvidia, etc..) from the Clevo website/DVD or is it better to get the latest drivers the respective component makers websites such as Intel's , Nvidia's, etc...?

I think each has its pros and cons. The drivers given by Clevo/Sager may be tried and tested. OTOH the latest and greatest drivers (from each component maker's website) may be better.....

 

Hello,
I just ordered the NP7330 laptop, and hopefully I'll get it in 2-3 weeks. Although I added IC diamond cooling, I also want a cooling pad. Could anyone give me any suggestion which cooler I should buy? Given the design of this laptop, which one should effectively cool it? Limit ~$40.

Thank you very much.

 

If available & Working (?appearently there still is some problem with the official nvidia drivers), always go with the actual drivers the hardware-manufacturers offer. Notebook-/OEM-pages usually just take these once a while anyway, dont expect them to do any big testings. But for now it shouldn't matter that much. The drivers are more or less uptodate, as this notebook is "kind of" new But I'd look for new intel-chipset drivers every month or two now, as haswell just got released. There still might be some quirks to fix/improve.

 

If the fan bothers you Sager will send you a replacement fan to put in.

 

So this occurs on all models? I actually bought mine from metabox in australia...

 

They probably come from the same factory/supplier no matter where you are. Some have it, some don't. I still haven't gotten my fan in the mail yet, but I'll let all of you know if it's better.

 

Hey guys, I just noticed that Origin released it's version of the W230ST with a RIDICULOUS battery life claim: 300 minutes. Unless they've done some crazy things with the BIOS I don't really see how this is possible. Origin EON 13-S

Also of note? The spec it by default with 4 GB of RAM, no AC wireless, a 4700MQ, and a tiny 320 GB HDD and yet it's already more expensive than my W230ST. I added in my components just for kicks and it came out at $600 more!

Oh, and is it just me or does the keyboard look a lot more blue with the backlighting on?

 

I will probably make an order for this rig some time next week. I was hoping for Dell or someone else to step up and release few new laptops for back-to-school sale period, but none of them stepped up. I was going between this and Y410p but ultimately decided on this one.

 

Can anyone point me where to find clevo control? I cannot for the life of me find it on the driver disk or the clevo website.

Also, I've noticed when running OCCT/Prime95 at the same time, I can get 99C temps, even with -85mV and 33x max multiplier on my 4800 (I also see thermal throttling at this level). I did notice that there seems to be a sort of "super boost" fan level which kicks in ONLY when the CPU reaches these uber high temps - not the regular loud blow. I would love to know how to toggle this super fan speed earlier - any ideas?

Petrov.

 

Yeah Origin is pretty expensive for comparable machines through Sager and the like. If they tuned the BIOS properly it could effectively get 300 minutes (5 hours) with min brightness and no wi-fi. I know with the W110ER one Clevo builder (might have been Origin as well) were able to get 5 hours out of the laptop easily compared with everyone else at 3.5-4 hours.

Clevo Control Center is part of "Hotkey" driver.

Fn+1 will kick in max fans (that's number 1 not F1).

 

Thanks, that's a great tip re the fan. I've tried to install the hotkeys under win7, but no banana. I get an error message that .NET Framework ceased working, then the installation seems to progress - but everytime I boot into windows I get an error message re the drivers which I can only get rid of if I uninstall the hotkey drivers.

P.

 

Is there anyway we can see what Fn+ (any number) does?

 

In the owner's manual. But that's the only one.

 

I was just playing BF3 and shot a rocket and my game froze, and computer restarted.

This was after setting the voltage to -100 and the cache to -20. Hmmm

 

Just ran wPrime on the 1024 thing. Had HWMonitor on as well, with max CPU temps at 81C on all cores, laptop propped up on powered "on" Cooler Master X-Slim, 81F outside, computer plugged in, and on High Performance power profile in both the Clevo Control Panel and in Windows' power options. Dunno what's the point of these scores, but this is what it shows in the "View Scores" button: "1024M - 294.163 sec (3098.2 MHz Haswell C0*1). This is the first run, btw, not sure if that's any good or not?

EDIT: Just ran that 3DMark you linked me to. Here's some of the numbers: CPU temps reached max of 84C on all 4, and GPU reached max of 68C. Outside temps still about the same ~82Fish. Attached is a picture of my results---tell me if that's good/bad, cuz it's only better than 27% of all results, according to their website lol.

Cooler Master X-Slim, the one that uwwmatt and I got fits perfectly. The big fan delivers tons of air to the proper vent holes, and keeps my system fan from even turning on, most of the time. Also, it's cheap as heck and quiet too. Buy it on Amazon, and get it shipped with Prime.

The disc has most of the necessary drivers, but for some reason I couldn't get SB Cinema to work, cuz it said no compatible audio device, yada yada yada. So I DLed Razer's 7.1 surround sound program which has its own EQ. Only thing with the Razer thing, is that while on a Skype call, I hear popping sometimes. But if I play some music or anything else, everything's gravy. Maybe Skype just sucks?

 

By the way, someone mentioned that you can get rid of the "dead zone" at the bottom centimetre or so of the track pad by turning off horizontal scrolling in the synaptic trackpad settings. Sadly, this didn't work for me - the deadzone is there with or without the horizontal scrolling option on. This is on win7.

P.

 

I'm having network drops; mentioned it around page 103 I think. It's getting worse -- that's actually why I came to the thread tonight. The thing is, I never lose signal, the wifi icon tootip just changes to "no internet" and web pages won't load.

Does anybody have any troubleshooting ideas? In case it helps, I kept a list of the drivers I installed and the order I added them in (all from the bundled Clevo DVD):

chipset
iGPU
dGPU
ethernet
card reader
touchpad
Airplane Mode
Hotkey
Intel Management Engine
Via Audio

intel wlan
Intel BT
SB Cinema
Intel rapid storage
widi


I just removed the Intel WLAN drivers and am trying the WIn8 ones -- they seemed fine before, so maybe I won't get more drop outs.... Do I lose anything not having the "Intel ProSet" nonsense?

I was that someone I'm on WIn8, and with the scroll zone turned off I get response from all but the barest sliver of the pad at the bottom (just above the buttons). I'd say it's only a few millimeters at most.

 

So you have problems with heat dissipation and the first thing you do is fire rockets? This guy, I tell you...

Sorry, couldn't resist.

I found no benefit in reducing the cache voltage. You also haven't mentioned your temps, so whether it's due to stability or temperature or faulty hardware, I can't say without further info.

Without applying Wingnut's settings, however, I'm not sure what you want from this thread. Telling people you have an issue that's been brought up and solved multiple times in multiple ways, by not doing any of the solutions and not attempting to determine the cause to figure out why your settings aren't working... I predict this problem will persist.

 

Right. Leave cache voltage alone. I wouldn't touch that until you have a stable system then start with that and see if there's any benefit to reducing it. In any case, it's best to reduce voltage and stress test until you have a stable system. If BF3 crashes, then back off on the voltage reduction a bit and see if the issue persists. Not every system is the same, not every CPU is the same, not every circumstance is the same. I've had instances on past laptops where others were overclocking their GPU significantly without issue but I couldn't reach half that. Just luck of the draw and any extra you get is a benefit that you didn't pay for.

After more fussing with the system is that this machine really isn't any good for more than an i7-4702MQ (which not all vendors offer) or i7-4700MQ unless you need the CPU horsepower specifically for CPU only tasks.

 

Have you guys tried Tomb Raider benchmark as an artifact detector?

It is quite a sensitive test to detect an artifact.

The most optimum clock where I can't see any artifact is 135MHz Core / 400MHz Memory.

Whereas other benchmark tools I can go around 135MHz Core / 600MHz Memory.

Btw, anyone tried higher than 135MHz core? (BIOS MOD, Nvidia Inspector, etc)

Last night I did a backup of my BIOS and found a GK107 BIOS(Our GTX765M is GK106) inside.

 

I'm curious... does this mean that we could have a better BIOS or does it not really matter? :what:

 

I should have been more precise - the symptoms are the same as yours, I'm also getting a "No Internet" error message on the wifi without actually dropping the wifi signal itself! I've tried changing routers, so I'll play some more today and see if that helps or not. Let me know if the win8 drivers work for you. What Windows/wifi card are you using (I'm on win 7/intel 6235)

Lucky you on the trackpad! Frankly, I think this trackpad is not very good - certainly a lot worse that my Sony S13P, but anyway, who uses trackpads other than mac users...

P.

 

So i picked up a Deep Cool N17 laptop cooler (don't let the n17 make you think it's for a 17" laptop either, it's pretty compact). They are $15 here in Australia and pretty common.

At first I thought it didn't provide much cooling, i couldn't feel it much. But with the 4702 CPU i've noticed in Prime95 testing the fan hasn't even gone to max yet. It gets to about 70 degrees the come back down, but the fan never goes full.
Laptop on cooler: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5037395/IMG_20130804_172237.JPG

Also is it possible to have nvidia inspector overclock on startup and does anyone have any recommendations for how to test it?

 

I'm not sure whether or not Inspector has to be rerun every time or not (sorry) - but why not use MSI Afterburner? Afterburner can be loaded automatically at startup.

P.

 

anybody with the mythlogic 1313 who can comment about it?

 

Incidentally, I just did a repaste of my thermal paste and my temps dropped 10-15C. Went from mid-high 90s running OCCT/Prime95 to mid 80s. A bit odd really.

 

Wow. Is there some guide to thermal pastes and repasting? I am new to this.

 

Here is a nice guide!
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...e-guide-upgrading-thermal-paste-your-own.html

 

Does anyone use security/anti-virus software other than Microsoft Security Essentials / Defender on their machines? Is it better Not to install any third-party security suites to get maximum performance out of the system?

 

Great thanks!!

 

I get horrible artifacting in 3DMark 11 at 600MHz vRAM. But Tomb Raider wasn't bad at all. Admit it you just like spinning around Lara. I'm also curious about the vRAM heatspreader. Why didn't they put ribs on it to help dissipate heat a little better.

Curious about the GK107 vBIOS though. That is odd.

 

She's still hot btw.. lol

Yeah, really hate these vRAM.. I haven't seen the inside yet, but from what you're saying, it could probably be better.

Look at the Asus G750JW. I'm seeing people OCing to the 3000MHz levels.
Example :
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 765M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700HQ,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. G750JW
The vRAM is running at 3,144 MHz!

As for the GK107, proly they put a GTX660M at first but decided to change.
I didn't look at the clocks, coz I'm too lazy to do that.
It's a GK107 E2043, BIOS Version 80.07.7D.00.A0.