The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    *** Official Clevo P950HP6/Sager NP8950 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, May 11, 2017.

  1. Redback

    Redback Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Should be no problem, apart from the design the p950hr and p957hr are the same.
     
    anytimer likes this.
  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,189
    Likes Received:
    17,900
    Trophy Points:
    931
    All the resellers have the same basic motherboard and driver/software set.
     
    anytimer likes this.
  3. djsubtronic

    djsubtronic Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    109
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    41
    (delete)
     
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2018
  4. Ildar Nizameev

    Ildar Nizameev Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Hey, guys!
    Could anyone provide me with the instructions how to flash BIOS and EC on my np8950(p950)? I've just recieved the ver.09 files from Sager but have no idea how to flash. I asked for instructions from support but they don't reply me for months

    upd: i ve recieved just 2 pure files which are intended to be used as a new bios and ec with the .LS and .09 formats...
     
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2018
  5. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,189
    Likes Received:
    17,900
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Hi, can you message me the ticket number (i'll start the convo).
     
  6. Ildar Nizameev

    Ildar Nizameev Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
  7. Colten Larsen

    Colten Larsen Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hey i just got the clevo p650hr. Does anyone know how to turn of the grated light that is on the front cover?
     
  8. Ildar Nizameev

    Ildar Nizameev Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
    I replied you
     
  9. djsubtronic

    djsubtronic Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    109
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    41
    That light is the backlight of your monitor so unless you want to turn your monitor off as well, there isn't a way short of opening up the top panel and physically blocking the holes with a piece of black card or something.
     
  10. djsubtronic

    djsubtronic Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    109
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Anyone have any tips on how you manage 4+ hours of battery life (P950HR). At best I get 2.5 hours, and I have enabled a lot of power saving features. The only thing that is not optimum is the LCD brightness which is at 100%, but shouldn't it still be over 2.5 hours?
     
  11. Ildar Nizameev

    Ildar Nizameev Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
    After flashing BIOS/EC to the latest ones (1.05.09), I ve found a new problem, I can't choose any of power modes in Control Center.
    CCC is the latest version, downloaded by OBSIDIAN TOOLS. Reinstalled several times, nothing helps(
    Maybe need to check any BIOS settings? Did anybody face such a problem?
    Here is a screenshot https://yadi.sk/i/UAIUP9aB3T6P9y
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2018
  12. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,189
    Likes Received:
    17,900
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Contact the reseller you got the BIOS file from and ask them if they encountered the issues.
     
  13. aethelbert

    aethelbert Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    14
    Messages:
    367
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Where does one download the latest BIOS for the P950HP6? Do I have to email my manufacturer?
     
  14. Ildar Nizameev

    Ildar Nizameev Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Not manufacturer, but reseller. If yours is Sager or Gentech-PC, I can share my files with you.
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2018
  15. aethelbert

    aethelbert Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    14
    Messages:
    367
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Thanks but mine is a Metabox from Australia.
     
  16. majk3l

    majk3l Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi all,
    I bought P950HP with GTX 1060 from my local reseller (Hyperbook - Poland). It works great but i have few questions.
    1. After installing all drivers from clevo site screen brightness adjustment buttons does not work. All the others works like charm (Fn+Fx) but those two(Fn+F8 & Fn+F9) doesn't. Any ideas how to fix it?
    2. I installed newest Control Center 180102 (which actually is 5.0001.1.74) but it leaves no shortcuts, nor start menu shows that. What's the path to a folder where this is installed? EDIT: It's in c:\Program Filex (x86)\HotKey
    3. My fan seems to be working all the time despite reasonable temperatures (it's like 40-45*C for CPU and GPU - both at low energy levels). I tried it with and without additional monitors plugged - no difference. Fan always works. Don't stops even for a moment. I even switched Win Power settings to passive, but nothing changes.
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2018
  17. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    72
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Use the Obisidian PC update utility ( link) to install the Control Centre. Use the NBR license file linked here to activate it.
     
    anytimer likes this.
  18. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    72
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    76
    1) I have the same issue and I have no idea how to fix. Perhaps @Meaker@Sager can help?
    2) It is in your taskbar menu.
    3) Uninstall Clevo Control Centre, restart, and use the instructuions in my above post to reinstall it using Obsidian PC's update tool. if this doesn't work, you may have to perform a CMOS reset.
    What BIOS and EC version are running? I have no fan issues with BIOS 1.05.08 and EC 1.05.08. You may have to update your BIOS&EC to resolve the problem.
     
    anytimer likes this.
  19. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    72
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Does the laptop throttle when connected to AC power? If it doesn't, you don't have a problem. The BIOS will switch your power profile to High Performance when you are plugged in and switch it back down to Balanced in battery mode. In fact the High Performance option is disabled whenever you are on Battery.
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,189
    Likes Received:
    17,900
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Try re-installing the latest intel video drivers.
     
  21. anytimer

    anytimer Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    302
    Messages:
    2,160
    Likes Received:
    321
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Thanks. At first it kept telling me to purchase a license (even though I had extracted the license to the app folder), and then I ran the app as admin, and all was well. Now downloading 11 updates.
     
  22. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    72
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    76
    I have done that with DDU, it didn't fix the problem.
     
  23. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,189
    Likes Received:
    17,900
    Trophy Points:
    931
    What about without DDU?
     
  24. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    72
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Yes, l've tried that and it didn't work. Would it have made a difference?
     
  25. Colten Larsen

    Colten Larsen Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hey i am considering getting a good skin on my laptop. Maybe a dark wood grain or something. Any good ideas?
     
  26. anytimer

    anytimer Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    302
    Messages:
    2,160
    Likes Received:
    321
    Trophy Points:
    101
    If the laptop lid is not flat, you are going to have trouble getting the skin to stick properly.
     
  27. B0B

    B0B B.O.A.T.

    Reputations:
    477
    Messages:
    1,132
    Likes Received:
    1,362
    Trophy Points:
    181
    What's the verdict on this laptop? Anything that stands out as a must buy or definitely avoid?
     
  28. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    72
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Read HTwingnut's review here. The fan issue has been fixed in the latest BIOS/EC update.
     
    B0B likes this.
  29. B0B

    B0B B.O.A.T.

    Reputations:
    477
    Messages:
    1,132
    Likes Received:
    1,362
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Thank you! I'm headed there now :)
     
  30. bennycooly

    bennycooly Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    8
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Wow, so apparently this laptop is super picky with RAM... I was getting occasional BSOD's during gaming with my new G.Skill 32GB (2x16GB) 2400MHz RAM, and running memtest86 for an hour shows lots of errors. I thought my memory issues were gone but no dice... will now have to try to get another pair of RAM that will hopefully work with this laptop. Hopefully the Kingston HyperX equivalent will work, but if not I will go with Crucial because their website apparently guarantees compatibility.

    Hopefully others with the P950HR and wanting to use 32GB of RAM won't have the same issues as me. This is a new replacement unit from HIDevolution as well so I really doubt that it's the laptop that is the issue.
     
  31. B0B

    B0B B.O.A.T.

    Reputations:
    477
    Messages:
    1,132
    Likes Received:
    1,362
    Trophy Points:
    181
    Why not just cut to the chase and go Crucial?

    I’ve tried this too with a different Clevo chassis before and I was having issues. It was G. Skill 3000 MHz so I was expecting issues anyway to be transparent.

    There must be a reason why every Clevo laptop I have bought (At least from Eluktronics) has shipped with Ballistix Sport. DDR4 era anyway.
     
  32. Dokost

    Dokost Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi

    I have a Clevo P950, ordred it without any storage drives, and used a SATA ssd for a few weeks.
    But I have now swapped it out with a M2 Samsung Evo 960 500GB.


    So, when I installed my m2 drive, i just wanted to do a reinstallation of win10 to that drive, and I ran into some issues.


    By Disabling UEFI in bios, I'm able to set my M2 drive as boot priority in the boot menu.

    But I'm not able to install windows to it, since it's not showing up and I can't locate any drivers for it.

    Enabling UEFI I can install windows to my M2, but I'm not able to boot from it, since it's dissapearing from the boot menu
    and boot priority list.


    Disabling UEFI again I can now select my disk drive in boot priority. But not able to boot from it since OS was installed using UEFI I guess?

    How can I make my drive bootable while UEFI is enabled?

    Also, I see many mentions bios updates, but I couldn't find anything on clevo page.
    Where can you get the latest bios?


    I hope someone can help me with this, it's quite frustrating [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2018
  33. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,189
    Likes Received:
    17,900
    Trophy Points:
    931
    You need to format it as GPT, use a program like Rufus to set the format and boot type.

    This is why we don't let people order it without an OS as it confusing for new users these days.
     
  34. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    72
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Just buy your ram from crucial, they tend to focus on making laptop RAM so it's likely to be more stable.
     
  35. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

    Reputations:
    39,584
    Messages:
    23,560
    Likes Received:
    36,855
    Trophy Points:
    931
    1) By default, the Windows Media Creation Tool formats and initializes the USB Flash Disk as GPT to be installed in UEFI BIOS configurations/UEFI boots, thus, the HDD/SSD MUST be initialized as GPT and not MBR otherwise you won't be able to install Windows on it.

    2) When you are disabling UEFI and booting off the Windows 10 USB Flash Disk, you must initialize the drive as MBR since you're not in UEFI but that's not recommended, you wanna enable UEFI, use diskpart to clean the disk and then when you create the partitions through the Windows setup, it will initialize as them as GPT by default.

    For step by step instructions on how to do this, see: NBR Windows 10 Clean Installation Guide
     
    B0B likes this.
  36. bennycooly

    bennycooly Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    8
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    21
    Trophy Points:
    6
    You're right...I cancelled my HyperX order and got a same day shipment for the Ballistix Sport 2666MHz and it passed the overnight memtest86 tests. I guess that's the only brand that is officially supported!

    Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
     
  37. B0B

    B0B B.O.A.T.

    Reputations:
    477
    Messages:
    1,132
    Likes Received:
    1,362
    Trophy Points:
    181
    I think Crucial makes the best fire-and-forget RAM
     
  38. aethelbert

    aethelbert Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    14
    Messages:
    367
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Just perused the thread and noticed some others are also having difficulties with screen brightness. From what I've managed to uncover, it seems to be related to installing the latest Intel HD Graphics driver. I'm also currently using an Insider build of Windows, and it seems to want to update the video driver every now and then too (thus breaking Fn+Fx brightness control).

    You can still change the display brightness in Windows through the Action Centre. And changing the version of, and reinstalling HotKey/CCC (tried 69 and 74) doesn't help either.

    What HAS WORKED for me was to use the Intel driver provided on the DVD my laptop came with. This 'fixes' the Fn+Fx brightness controls. Windows complains I'm installing an earlier version as well, but I haven't noticed significant problems.

    The Driver Version: 22.20.16.4749 that I currently have seems to work.

    EDIT: My model is P950HP6 from Metabox with latest BIOS 1.05.09.
     
    xrainx0123 likes this.
  39. Yenzen

    Yenzen Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Looking for a decent gaming GPU to replace an old P150SM 870m GTX machine and the only real economically sensible options available in my country seem to be either this model (sold here by the only local Clevo/Sager reseller), a Dell Inspiron or the Lenovo Legion Y720.

    I know this is hardly the most neutral audience to pose these question to, but this seems to be the most sensible option of the three:

    Would you still buy it, given those options?

    Is buying it this late into the life cycle of the GTX 1060 a mistake? It would seem sensible to wait for Volta I guess, but I've no idea when the 1160/2060 or whatever they'll call it will trickle down to laptops following the release of the top models.
     
  40. sicily428

    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

    Reputations:
    816
    Messages:
    3,610
    Likes Received:
    1,988
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Your old laptop has a mxm gpu. Why not upgrading only that component with a mxm gtx1070?
     
  41. Yenzen

    Yenzen Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Battery is failing (no charging) and audio out is busted after a trip down the stairs. I need a larger SSD. I need more RAM. The thing is bulky to carry around.

    Searching around reveals there's multiple things that need to be true for 10XX compatibility? http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-p150em-upgrading-to-geforce-gtx-1060.800940/

    It also seems to be hard to dust up any MXM models and the cost of such a thing + the costs of dealing with the other hardware problems + the other hardware in my loyal P150 won't last forever... I don't think I'd end up with a very good deal after everything is dealt with vs buying a new one.

    I take it the P950HP6 GPU wouldn't be upgradeable if it turns out that the Volta Whatever-Will-Fill-The-Market-Share-Of-The-1060 is some sort of fantastic +100% upgrade?
     
  42. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    72
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    76
    Go for this laptop or the Dell Inspiron. The Dell is going to be cheaper, but is much thicker and slightly heavier than the P950HP6. Both laptops have good cooling and sturdy build quality, just make your decision based on your needs.

    The 1170/2070 for laptops won't come out until the autumn.
     
    Yenzen likes this.
  43. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    72
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    76
    No, the CPU & GPU are soldered to the motherboard. Personally I'd wait until Volta/Ampere comes out and see what the performance improvements are like (I'd imagine it would be between 30-50%) and then deciding on whether to buy a Volta GPU or not. I'd imagine that when volta is available in laptops, the price of pascal notebooks will drop and you could probably snag a laptop with a gtx 1060 or 1070 for considerably less than what they cost now.
     
    Yenzen likes this.
  44. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,189
    Likes Received:
    17,900
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Or get one around launch and have top performance for a good time.
     
    Yenzen likes this.
  45. Yenzen

    Yenzen Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Yeah, that'd be the best option and the one I'd pick if I were (relatively) certain that the high-mid end Volta would drop in the next 6 months for laptops.It could extend the lifetime of the laptop an extra 2-ish years, since it'd probably survive another generation compared to GTX 1060. The ideal would be that it could last 3-4 years with high/medium settings for new games at 1080p.

    However, everything tech websites have to offer is guesswork (I can find guesswork that Volta would have been out in 2017), meaning anything from Q3 2018 to Q1-2 2019 could be realistic (Nvidia is making tons of cash on their current GPUs and AMD's newly released best is just trying to keep up - why race yourself?).

    I'll think on it until tomorrow and either buy this model and give Volta a pass or try to see if my old brick will chug on for another few seasons.
     
  46. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    72
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    76
    I'm almost certain that Volta will launch in Q3/Q4 2018. Navi will be out by H1 2019 on GF 7nm, so nvidia wouldn't wait that long to release volta.
     
  47. Yenzen

    Yenzen Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Decided to let the old GTX 870m chug along for a little while longer. Thanks for the sober advice everyone.
     
  48. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

    Reputations:
    9,431
    Messages:
    58,189
    Likes Received:
    17,900
    Trophy Points:
    931
    The 870m should last to the end of this generation ok.
     
  49. aethelbert

    aethelbert Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    14
    Messages:
    367
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Is the Inspiron the 15-7000 variant? I was eyeing out that model but settled on the P950 with a 4K non-pentile display and GTX 1060. The Inspiron was an attractive gaming laptop but typing on it for more than a few minutes made me immediately wish for something, anything but that Inspiron keyboard. It isn't bad though; the new Apple ones are IMO worse. The P950 keyboard while not up to the quality of my previous P650Sx is still quite good. I'd give it a solid B+/A-. And that's mainly because I find the lettering on the keyboard oh so unaesthetic.

    I bought he P950 knowing full well that it's late in both the CPU and GPUs respective product cycles however, I couldn't wait until mid-2018 to buy one (CFL chips). Also I heard the 6-core chips would cost more. That with a decent promotion run by Metabox just sorta sealed the deal.

    I can't speak of the Y720 as I haven't had enough time to play around with it, but if it's like prior Legion laptops, they are well spec'd for their discount price, but their build quality feels lacking. Not poorly built, just a choice of materials I would not prefer.
     
  50. RampantGorilla

    RampantGorilla Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    72
    Messages:
    780
    Likes Received:
    313
    Trophy Points:
    76
    I believe I have found a fix to the problem where people could not change the screen brightness using Fn + F8/F9. The issue is caused by the latest Intel graphics drivers. Follow these steps to fix the issue:

    DISCLAIMER: I am in no way responsible for any damage that you cause to your laptop whatsoever! This guide has been tested to work on my laptop and, if followed correctly, will not cause damage to your laptop. Despite this, by following this guide, you are responsible for any damage to your laptop. Do this at your own risk!

    1. Get DDU to remove the drivers, you can download it here. Unzip the file to your downloads folder or another location of your choosing.

    2. Reboot into Safe Mode. To do this, follow this guide.

    3. Once in safe mode, go the folder containing DDU and launch it. Select Intel under the driver menu, then select "Clean and Restart"
    [​IMG]
    4) Once you have rebooted, download the old Intel HD graphics driver from November 2017 here (direct link to file from Prostar Computer). Unzip it and run setup.exe. Follow the instructions on the installer.

    5) When you've installed the graphics driver and rebooted, Windows Update will try to install the new graphics driver again and break your brightness keys. To stop this from happening you need to stop Windows Update from installing driver updates. You can do this by following this guide here. If you have Windows 10 Pro, I'd suggest that you use the Group Policy (gpedit.msc) method.

    Please note that by doing this, Windows Update will no longer update your drivers. You can always use Obsidian PC's driver update tool to update your drivers.
     
← Previous pageNext page →