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    *** Official Clevo P870TM Owner's Lounge! ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. clevo-extreme

    clevo-extreme Company Representative

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    In actually bios , i mean stock bios / control center is everything locked with CPU without K.

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  2. bennyg

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    Are those air gaps between fan and fin grilles, especially on the middle fan?

    @clevo-extreme was this all fully screwed together when this pic was taken?

    [​IMG]
     
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  3. Eurocom Support

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    Here are some "under the hood" pics of P870TM1 with SLI GTX 1080....
     

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  4. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes, see the foam for lining it up, increases to fin area were made with the heatpipes no longer running into the fin stack, they have done a fair amount of testing on this so it could be down to its influence on airflow but to be fair I am not sure.
     
  5. Stress Tech

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    Are maybe for sound suppression...
     
  6. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Anyone has a picture of the thermal pad setup for this laptop so I can put it in the OP?
     
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  7. wtjwillis

    wtjwillis Notebook Consultant

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    I'd like to know as well. I received 3 extra thermal pads and tubes of thermal paste that I'd like to apply. But I don't know where they intended them to go.
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

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    The pads are for M.2 drives.
     
  9. wtjwillis

    wtjwillis Notebook Consultant

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    I see. M2 drives only? I remember Donald saying that some were already applied, somewhere. I guess I'll just have to open the laptop when I get a chance to see exactly where.
     
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    You usually get a set in case you want to add more or swap out a drive a few times and the pad degrades or gets lost :)
     
  11. zetajunkie

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    FYI - Windows 10 Pro (1703) is the sweet spot for having things work more or less as they should. No lag in gaming(CS:Go has rubber banding issues on 1709) or Thunderbolt connection issues, unlike when running the Fall Creator's Update (v1709), where my external keyboard and mouse would not work consistently if I had a Thunderbolt 3 drive plugged in....

    edit: also, on 1703, Remote Desktop Connections don't randomly connect/disconnect, while 1709 made remote work almost impossible (connecting to a 1703 machine)
     
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  12. monkeysystem

    monkeysystem Notebook Geek

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    My P870 finally shipped after the long wait for the single gpu vapor chamber. Will post benchmarks when I get it on Wednesday.
     
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  13. MichaelBlast

    MichaelBlast Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hopefully yours will be better then mine. My GTX 1080 started smoking while i was at work. Now i have to RMA it after having it for 1 week. [​IMG] https://imgur.com/a/7NHxG
     
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  14. zetajunkie

    zetajunkie Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wow, condolences. What were your clock settings? I've been getting 4.5Ghz across all 6 cores with no throttle (undervolt at -135.7mV), with temps around 80c (+/- 3) during heavy usage/gaming with stock heatpipes with IC thermal paste. Those temps include both GPU (stock clock) and CPU. I still get some random hiccups, but supposedly it's the crappy firmware the Samsung 960 pro's shipped with (supposedly Samsung will have a fix for it next month).
     
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  15. Stress Tech

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    Damn! That must have hurt. Was your 1080 GTX running on stock speeds?
    By the way; Welcome to the forum :)
     
  16. MichaelBlast

    MichaelBlast Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah.. I died a little inside when that happened. No overclocking but was having temperature spikes with the cpu and GPU was hitting 80 while gaming at normal clocks with max fans. I should of went to a different reseller and spent the extra money there. My reseller said sorry this usually doesn't happen and we will get back to you. They didn't care about my situation at all...
     
  17. Jumpwired

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    This is my worry. I have an extended warranty, but when my GTX1080 goes poof-- how willing will they be to replace it? Since I repasted it would they just blame me? My card had a glued black cardboard shroud around the GPU die. When cleaning the excess factory thermal paste, my ISO melted the glue and I had to remove the shroud. Did I void my warranty?
     
  18. Juang1985

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    80c on gpu and cpu while gaming is pretty much normal for an SLI setup on these laptops on stock cooling.
     
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    I have a single GTX 1080, 80c at max fan speed normal?
     
  20. Juang1985

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    Cant speak for single GPU cause i have dual. On Dual 80c during game play on heavy games is actually pretty cool. I get about 85c in really heavy games.
     
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    What clocks? These chips do boost quite aggressively if you give them the thermal room.
     
  22. MichaelBlast

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    During gaming i was getting clock speeds between 1557 MHz and 1771 MHz. Stayed more towards 1557 MHz due to not playing a gpu intensive game. Benchmarks i was getting 82C to 86C and a clock speeds of 1771 MHz.
     
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    I'm seeing well over 1900mhz while staying below 80C on my single 1080. Just finished a 3 hour long session of Witcher 3 at max settings minus hairworks and my average CPU temp was in the mid 50C range and the max GPU temp was 71C according to HWMonitor. Everything at stock / default settings.
     
  24. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'll take a look around this thread as welkl, curious how they do in daily work
     
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  25. monkeysystem

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    On default settings the thing runs very cool and the fans rarely ramp up to an audible level. My U3 cooler with NF-F12s is louder. Everything is very responsive and aside from some small hiccups related to my 960 EVO and my undervolts not sticking everything is better than I expected.
     
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    What software did you use to make the undervolts stick?
     
  27. monkeysystem

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    I eventually just gave up. I'm going to wait for the PREMA BIOS to try again.
     
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    I do have a question some of you knowledgeable people might be able to help with, I've had trouble attempting to set a fan curve for the new machine, and to also configure the lighting in the keyboard, is there any programs or utilities I might be missing to have access to both of these?
     
  29. monkeysystem

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    If you go to the driver page on the Sager website you should see the clevo control center software. That's what you'll need to set a fan profile and control the keyboard lighting.
     
  30. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    If you use Throttlestop, just add it to your Windows startup and it will make sure undervolt gets applied on start.
     
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    Thanks
     
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  34. clevo-extreme

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    Yes

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    I have yet to use it to change anything. I find that the auto setting is quiet enough and will ramp up the fans when needed.
     
  36. Meaker@Sager

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    On the warm side of things then.
     
  37. Beemo

    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    Who said that?

    Well, good luck with the thermals. I'll be surprised if they managed to pull it off. I'd even laugh at those fools who said to me that a 1080ti is not possible in laptops. :twitchy:

    Prema Bios you say? I haven't seen any for the P870TM atm.
     
  38. Vasudev

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    You need to buy from Prema partner.
     
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    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    Ah. I know I read somewhere in this forum that there is no Prema Bios for the TM1 yet. Can't seem to find it now. Oh well.
     
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    You already know @Papusan was all over this already. :D
     
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  42. clevo-extreme

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    Dont work with Stock bios max 3200MHz

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  43. Papusan

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    Corsair with factory bios.
     
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  44. clevo-extreme

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    How many MHz?

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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I mean it's 3800MHz Corsair ram who run 3460MHz.
     
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    Stock?

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    Yes , @Johnksss got it working 3460Mhz on stock BIOS.
     
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    That is correct. So you could look at it like the silicon lottery.....
    CPU
    Rated at 5.1 Ghz, but runs 4.9 Ghz in a laptop.
    Memory
    Rated at 3800Mhz, but will run 3200 Mhz to possibly 3600 Mhz in a laptop.
     
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    for the cpu part, wouldnt we be looking at the actual power limit rather than ghz? something similar to that of 570wm which was set really low.

    say its 140w as an example, then a chip at 4.6ghz high voltage that uses 140w will start to throttle, yours a good chip from SL so 4.9 and hitting 140w etc
     
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    In the example it's just to say....You won't get full speed for the price you pay to put it into a laptop.
     
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