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Yes when I said 2 weeks I did mean as a full time job

 

Finally placed an order for the 120hz, 7700k with 1 TB SSD model. I went with the higher refresh rate display since it should help for competitive FPS gaming. Really excited to see how good I can become.

Now I'll just sit here and wait....

 

I have posted my test report about multi monitor support for the P870KM1-G laptop.
I thought it be best to start a new thread as it is a big report. I hope this helps someone out there.
Link below.

THE P870KM1-G MULTI, SINGLE, G-SYNC, NVIDIA SURROUND & SCREEN ADAPTER TEST THREAD
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...a-surround-screen-adapter-test-thread.806524/

 

So it's basically what I thought then, the main issue is G-sync needs that direct path so if you want that then it can't share. Otherwise no issues splitting up the DPs.

 

Yes, you're correct about the G-sync direct path/connection. I had hope before the test, thinking that one of the P870KM1-G mDP ports or ThunderBolt3 ports will divert (or snatch) the DDI belonging to either the HDMI 2.0 port or the laptops display, making a total of 3x DDI going to the mDP & ThunderBolt3 ports. It was worth the try though. If their is a mod or fix for this; then the P870KM1-G will be able to support triple G-sync display. I wonder if the BIOS can be modded to send 3x DDI to the mDP and TB3 ports. ( @Prema )

As for the future; Clevo best dump the HDMI port and replace it for a DisplayPort 1.3 or 1.4, as a DisplayPort can be converted to a HDMI connection by using a cheap DisplayPort to HDMI 2.0 adapter. Users then will be able to have a G-sync triple screen setup.

And for Nvidia! they should make a MST hub that can separate a G-sync signal. Similar to the 4 year old "Club3D SenseVision MST Hub CSV-5300" that can achieve a FreeSync EyeInfinity setup. I'm sure Nvidia can come up with a driver for this MST hub surely.
https://www.eteknix.com/club3d-sensevision-multi-stream-transport-displayport-hub-review/

 

What are the differences between the DM3 and the KM1?

 

The DM3 has the Z170 board and #2 m.2 drives. The KM1 has the Z270 board and #3 m.2 drives and is Intel Optane compatible. I THINK that's about it and sorry, I pretty much have no clue what use Intel Optane has right now.

 

Adding to what @Jon Webb said, the DM3 vapor chamber heatsink has one more heatpipe connected to the CPU. This heatpipe was removed in the later versions of the KM1 vapor chamber heatsink.

 

That pretty much sums it up

 

I just saw a picture of the new Vapor Chamber. @Meaker@Sager do you know why they removed a heat pipe? I also saw your post a few days back about the heat pipes acting as a guide for the Vapor Chamber. I didn't know a VC needed that. I wondered why they just didn't make the VC thicker. Now I know.

 

@Jon Webb @Meaker@Sager @dspboys @ExMacGamer
These are some photos when I first opened my P870KM1-G on the 17th of February on the first day I received it. It was one of them wedding days to remember

#embarrassing Just to confirm! This how I got my KM1. I did not do this hideous thermal paste and LM job, as I do not recommend you doing this. Especially, how the thermal pads have been placed. If you can see the CPU heat sink photo? on the left, you can see where I added thermal Grizzly Kryonaut grey paste on the GPU heat sink. That's my work The rest is bob baa

So I thought I do my own prep work. So I ended up taking off the rest of the thermal paste you can see in the photo, and the thermal pads off the GPU vapour chamber heat sink. Take note: there is 2x heat pipes for the GPU vapour chamber heat sink. I have also cleaned the liquid metal and changed the thermal pads off the CPU vapour chamber heat sink. As you can see, the CPU vapour chamber heat sick has 3 heat pipes.
I hope this helps.

P.s sorry for the photo quality as I only took these photos to show to my friend how the thermal pads were placed awkwardly...

 

The P870KM1-G has 24 PCI-E lanes (4x Extra), an extra M.2 NVME slot so you now can achieve RAID5, and Intel Optane support. Nothing else I can think of...

 

You must have one of the first models. Not the CPU heat sink, but the newer GRID heat sinks, have only 1 pipe going to the CPU instead of 2. I have a picture somewhere, I'll have to dig it out. I also noticed the thermal paste between the CPU and GRID and not the usual .5 mill thick thermal pad.

 

?? probably. And please when you have time, show me the photo. I am so curious. Why would they nerf that?

 

I just asked @Meaker@Sager today if he knew why they changed it. Maybe it was dumping too much heat on the CPU

 

If anyone needs a GPU pad guide, here's another one from @Mr. Fox, this one's easier to follow if you're going to put the pads directly on the GPU. Easier for me anyway.

 

waooh! I never knew. Thank you for the upload.
By the way, If I fit a 0.5mm thermal pad on the gap where the 2x VC heat sink meet and attach! I think it will be too tight. I have used thermal Grizzly Kryonaut paste instead. Weird.

 

I will do this the next time I open up. thank you.
And by the way. When my CPU heats up; it spreads its heat to the GPU VC heat sink. I have noticed this, as the GPU temps gives me the same temp readings as my CPU even when I am gaming or not. Only by a degree or two though. I get 65 degrees on full load on the CPU by the way.

 

I thought about doing that, then I figured it'd be too messy. Yours looks nice and clean to me, and one HELL of a lot cheaper than those FujiPoly pads. I bought a handful of those in different sizes and they're not cheap. I was expecting something the size of a sheet of paper and it's the size of a strip of bubble gum. Next time it's apart, I'm using paste like you did. I have Kryonaut and Conductonaut coming soon.

 

@Stress Tech who did you purchase your KM1 system from?

 

Yeah, them FujiPoly's are daft money. I have replaced most of the 11w/mk pads with the 17w/mk pads. And I am now using Kryonaut and Conductonaut, and there is a BIG difference.
By the way I am trying to find a spare Kaby Lake IHS so my friend can mould it me for casting. I want to make a few silver IHS lids for kicks. Even though it might not make a difference, but hey! I love doing experiments. I will keep this thread informed if it ever happens.

 

A regular Intel Kaby Lake IHS? Or one from BitsPower?

 

wow! I never knew about BitsPower. It seems like I will ditch the silver IHS idea then. Thank you very much pal.

 

Where can I buy a "BitsPower Intel IHS" please share. I can not find it in google. I so want one of these

http://www.overclock.net/t/1622289/bitspower-intel-ihs

 

All the guys on the Overclock Forum are using the Skylake IHS instead of Kabylake. That's what I have in my computer, a BitsPower Skylake IHS on a Kabylake 7700K. The Skylake IHS is 1mm higher and seems to help with the poor Heat Sink fit. They use this instead of using a copper shim. It's something you should check out. Go to @Mr. Fox YouTube channel It's MrFoxRox2, he's got videos showing the poor heatsink fit and a bunch of other good stuff. If you're just looking to stay with the Kabylake IHS I have both, a stock Intel and a BitsPower KabyLake IHS. Let me know, if you want the Kabylake ones I'll send them to you.

 

double post

 

3rd post

 

@Stress Tech here's the BitsPower link, they seem to work well.
https://www.bitspower.com/html/product/pro_show.php?products_id=4755

 

It will say out of stock but you'll get it quickly. They might make them to order.

 

Cheers. I know where I can inquire for one at https://www.bitspower.com.tw/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=322_323&products_id=4381
I will ask my friend first about the silver IHS as the BitPower is copper you see. But then again, taking a template from the BitsPower IHS would be a great idea for the Silver IHA mould. How much did you purchase BitsPower KabyLake IHS if you don't mind me asking?

 

I don't remember exactly but they're cheap, about $15 to $20 USD. I think to ship to the EU is more expensive than the part itself. It'll probably cost you about 50 Euros

 

Okay. If you are going to sell the "BitsPower KabyLake IHS" then please advertise it on Ebay and inform me about the advert if you can please. Also add additional post and package for international shipping to the UK. If not I might purchase one from their site. Either way, its up to you bro.
Kind regards.

 

No worries, get me your address and I'll send it to you. I have that one and the stock one just sitting here. I doubt I'll ever use them. If you want to pay for it, make a donation to @Prema, he's in your neck of the woods.

 

Okay send me a private message through here please. I don't know how to do it. And state how much you want for them both (or just the "BitsPower KabyLake IHS") including delivery. and a shortcut to Premas payment please. Then after the process I will send you my address. That's if you don't mind please.

 

Heat balance and if it's not adding anything to the overall thermal health then why have it?

 

#embarrassing Just to confirm! This how I got my KM1. I did not do this hideous thermal paste and LM job, as I do not recommend you doing this. Especially, how the thermal pads have been placed. If you can see the CPU heat sink photo? on the left, you can see where I added thermal Grizzly Kryonaut grey paste on the GPU heat sink. That's my work The rest is bob baa

 

@Meaker@Sager I have a question, If anyone could answer it would probably be you. If Clevo decided to go ahead and refresh a P570WM style notebook, with a x299 board that could handle all the new I9 processors and 2 GTX 1080, literally all the goodies. What kind of investment would that take? Thousands? Millions? And do you think there would be a large enough market for it? I'm asking you because you understand this a lot more than I do.

 

The development of every laptop model costs thousands - we're not talking millions but it's 5 digits. You have all the design costs, tooling for the chassis, mainboard design and fabrication, component integration and support etc etc. Then on top of that you have to have every individual device tested and certified under (I'm being very general here) EC, FCC and so on to be able to sell it in every market worldwide - you can add USD20k on for that easilly. The GPUs offered have to be validated by the GPU manufacturer and so on.

The i9 CPUs run very hot, let alone in a dual 1080 chassis. There's reasons why it hasn't happened and that's due to the cost, demand and practicality. The decisions with regard to demand are always a combination of what an ODM like Clevo thinks will sell well and then to a varying degree what Clevo's customers businesses who purchase chassis from them, not end users) want to sell and know they can sell. I say a varying degree because it pretty much goes without saying that a 15" laptop with 1070 will sell well - but for something as niche as an X299 laptop platform, that's not something that an ODM would decide to do without serious consultation from their customers.

 

That makes sense, If Clevo makes a capital investment like that, it would need to have a big market for the product. Thank you, I appreciate the info.

 

The bigger the market the less each machine has to be burdened with the R&D cost too so number of units matters.

 

I just purchased a B173QTN01.4 LCD (not 01.0 revision) off eBay for my EVOC P870KM1-G w/ dual 1080 + gsync which I finally ordered... thanks @Donald@HIDevolution ! I will let you guys know how it goes, I think it will be about 2-3 weeks before I receive it and can install it.
In the event that I lose gsync or brightness control or anything, I guess I can try flashing AW M17X R4 GTX 1080 vBIOS which I know supports this panel for sure. I have an SP8-F EEPROM programmer to try out different things, but no experience with GPU EEPROMs at all so not sure it would be compatible.
A lot of trouble just to say bye to alternating dark lines issue.
I should have a fun journey ahead of me...

Update: huh, some website called nbkit actually has it listed as "17.3 3D LED LCD SCREEN display B173QTN01.4 QHD 120Hz For EUROCOM Sky X7E2" perhaps it already is known compatible at least with P775DM1? Good sign that revision change is still compatible with 01.0

 

I am very much looking forward to seeing results of your experiment with the B173.

 

I never seen so much crap in my life!
3 months I have had it installed. That "Intel Extreme Tuning Utility" has altered my laptops behaviour. My CPU now drops to 800mhz on the windows "performance profile" and with Clevo "performance settings". Also IETU even altered my CPU power three times, without me even me running the program. I have now uninstalled. My temps are back low and I don't get any wild temp spikes, but I am still getting 797.5mhz drops on some cores every while. I have tried that throttle stop program to. How can I disable Intel Granny-step technology please?

 

Sorted Intel Extreme Tuning changed my CPU cache ratio to 0. I put it back to 35. I don't how it went to 0 by its self ????

 

is anyone getting severe throttling with nvidias latest drivers?? Version 384.76 i am running 2x 1080 sli with 7700k I tried overwatch for about 10 minutes and i started getting throttling. temps are not the problem CPU temps around 80c and gpus around 85-87c

 

No but I have physically power modded my cards.

 

Anyone have a picture of their bitspower IHS? I just received mine today and there are two screw holes in the underside. Doesn't look right but I don't know for sure. Thanks

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Yep, that's how it looks, I think they use that to manufacture it easier.

 

Perfect, I ask because I couldn't find a picture of the underside on their website but googling it I found them with no screw holes. But as long as someone thinks it's good I'll put it in this weekend thanks

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