*** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

It's 2.0

 

Thanks man!
If you have special requests you can ask us.
We just started doing some tests with Conductnaut, hopefully Delidd + Lapping + Conductnaut will greatly improve temperatures, and hey it´s always free for the client

 

Yup as confirmed it's HDMI 2.0. One of these stupid standards/licensing issues but has full 2.0 functionality. You can run 3x 4K panels from these laptops and the internal at max native resolution simultaneously

 

Is it just 2.0? I will be using 4K and HDR.

Can you confirm if it's HDMI 2.0a?

 

It should be HDMI 2.0b, I don't believe it's particularly reliant on the connector wiring, more the protocol the card supports which is 2.0b. Let me check and confirm.

 

And if you can check hdcp 2.2 supported or not. Would be much appreciated

 

In Sager website says HDMI 1.4b. In others HDMI 2.0. With the same P775DM3-G.

That's why it's so confusing.

 

Standards is always a murky world when you start getting into the nitty gritty of thing and the latest panels.

 

Yeah I can see.

But I can't buy the laptop until I know if it's HDMI 2.0a.

Anyone can confirm ?

 

how do I check which version I have on my P870DM3?

 

So, I'm also the proud owner of a P775DM3 from CEG.

I immediately started testing undervolting, but I have two questions:

1. I'm using XTU, is the built-in stress test sufficient, or should I also use another one?
2. I've noticed that it's possible to set the offset in the bios, but I've never read about doing it this way. Are there any advantages or disadvantages to making these changes in the bios?

 

Can you confirm it is HDMI 2.0b?

 

That's what I am checking with the engineers.

 

hey buddy. on skylake, the most trustworthy test ive found so far for undervolting stability is cinebench 15. do 10 consecutive runs of the multithreading cpu test and youre golden make sure to use max fans (fn+1) during the test runs. if you can complete 10 runs without errors, freezes or bsods you can consider your UV stable.

for thermals, u can use occt and run it for 20 min on all threads using large data set. set at max fans, if your temps stay below 90C your settings should be good to go even on warm summer days

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Thank you Meaker.

Did you get any response from the engineers ?

 

Does RAID0 work as PNP? Stick 2xM.2 and go crazy?

 

It's the weekend so not yet.

Raid 0 is native yes.

 

Has anyone noticed any voltage throttling with their rigs? I'm running the P775DM3 at 4.2GHz and it's rock solid, if I put it to 4.3+ it runs perfectly other than throttling when the wattage starts to go up. Is this a limitation of power to the CPU/GPU from the pack itself or have I missed something else out?

Current settings are:

CPU ratio: 4.3
Cache Ratio: 4.3
Power Limit: 120w
Adaptive Voltage: 0
CPU VR Limit: Auto (I wasn't sure what to set this at?)

It's rock solid and the temps are all fine (Less than 80°C CPU and GPU on load)

It's really got me scratching my head.

 

Are there good reviews of the P750DM2-G? I'm just curious about the machine. Is the build quality solid? How are temps for a delidded w/ CLLU 6700K?

I really curious to know how this systems compares to my P650RS-G (aside from a bit more expensive and a bit less mobile friendly).

@Galm - any thoughts on this? I'm sure you were thinking about this one at some point =D

 

@FredSRichardson I have a P750DM2-G with a i5-6600k which I delidded. Full specs in sig. I'm quite happy with it. I've had both a P650SG and P650RE, but also a P750ZM, P750DM-G, and then this P750DM2-G. I agree with you that you lose the weight, thinness, and battery-saving Optimus of the P6-series but gain performance due to the desktop processor. I barely use my laptop (purpose is for travel) and mainly use my desktop, so I have high standards for mobile performance. The times I have used it, I have been pleased with its performance. I was not satisfied by the P6-series and wanted MORE. The fans can get a little loud but it's no problem when wearing headphones. You have the hope that you can upgrade to a new GPU without swapping the whole chassis, and maybe even a new CPU if the next one has the same socket and Intel supports the last generation's chipset (like Skylake->Kaby Lake).

 

Thoughts about the machine in general? I like it. I think the Eurocom Tornado F5 has better build quality and may get the Svet bios and a 1080 which is interesting. This one will get Prema's though and I like the DAC. But no, I never considered it, it was nearly as thick as my GT60 and the point of a new one was to be thinner. I did get the 6820hk to offset the cpu difference.

 

@EmberV - thank you! Great to have a comparison between these two systems.

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Its definetly HDMI 2.0 for sure.. All the Clevo desktop CPU laptops with 900 series+ have been HDMI 2.0.. Now the a/b thing is something uncertain.. I think its more of a GPU thing but Meaker should be able to check with the engineers and give a solid answer... Also if these laptops are not HDMI2.0b, I doubt any other out there on the market with mobile CPUs will be..

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I got the Eurocom Sky X7E2 (P775DM3) a month ago, and I'm still waiting for my Samsung 960 Pro 1 TB to arrive, but for the moment I have installed a Crucial MX300 750 GB (great deal, GBP 100!) to get things set up, so I've been using it for slightly under a week. No benchmarks, no number-porn. However, I can tell you that this laptop has met most of my expectations. This isn't going to be a full review, but I'll lay down a few of the more important bits here.

Weight: I'm not kidding when I describe this laptop as heavy. It's definitely not light, but it's also not as heavy as some people think; it's just that it's dense. The laptop itself weighs the same as my previous laptop bag with laptop and charger and bits, so the only real change for me is the extra weight of the power brick. This power brick is a... brick. It's pretty lethal if you put it to good use. I bring this laptop to work and back on feet, 1 hour a day. and without any side trips it's definitely acceptable; a backpack is always going to be better than a slingbag for such laptops.

Exterior: Solid, really solid. The covers are well thought out, and the *gasp* truly removable battery is a nice touch (paltry capacity, but better than nothing). Really liking it a lot. A couple of slightly annoying drawbacks include the comparatively very flimsy exhaust grills (I almost thought I snapped it by accident at one point), as well as the somewhat difficult-to-align covers at the bottom of the laptop. This is a very cool and slightly understated-looking weapon of mass destruction, and the latter only adds to the positive aspect of the appearance.

Keyboard: I really, really like the travel and response of this keyboard. I came over from a standard chiclet-type laptop keyboard, and am not a mechanical keyboard person, so the slight increase in travel makes for a very, very good response. Still getting used to the keyboard layout, but I think I'll like it a lot.

Touchpad: The touchpad itself is actually very functional, and not glass-smooth which is very good. The less to be said about this, the better; it serves its function very well. Placement is good IMO, and I have yet to experience a touchpad misclick as of 1 week in. The keys... well, I can see why some people describe the keys as "spongy", but I think it's just because the travel is very deep compared to the keyboard. The response is reasonably firm, and not easy to have a missed click.

Speakers: Damn, this thing actually packs two punches. Easily the best laptop speakers I've heard, and beats some of the mid/high-average standalone speakers you can find on the market. The max volume is generous, sonorous really, although the upper range distorts more easily than I expected (but not by very much, definitely not sounding tinny easily), and the resonance of the laptop case from the speakers can be somewhat ticklish (it also unfortunately means that some of the output from the speakers will sound a little muffled due to this unintended/unwanted absorption). The treble is quite sweet and the bass is sufficient for me (ain't the kind of person who needs bass like an earthquake to rock the earth).

Heat and noise: Keyboard does get a little warm to touch when running more intensive stuff. Warm is body temperature warm, like someone held something in your hand for a few minutes and you immediately took it, that kind of warm. I've yet to run anything super intensive yet, so the exhaust is nowhere close to hot. Max fans on this baby is, holy crap, it's louder than some hairdryers, it's as loud as my friggin heat gun in the lab! But for office and daily light usage it's very quiet, and any amount of white noise will easily cover the sound from the fans. The best description for the sound would be like a higher-pitched microwave next door with the door closed, or a distant vacuum cleaner several rooms down the corridor. The key thing here is that the pitch is not a high-pitched sound, so it's actually loud but tolerable (I am just a little upset that the pitches of the fans aren't matched although they're very close, so I hear the out-of-tune oscillating effect, but that's coming from a musician). Not much pulsating issues observed.

Screen: I got the AUO TN 3K G-Sync screen. It's bright, really quite bright. Colours look decent to an average person like me. No bad pixels far as I can see, and any amount of backlight bleeding is quite minimal. In other words, this screen is gorgeous. The enormous amount of screen estate is really a big plus, and will need some adjusting to. I'm currently running 125% scaling (100% is a bit too small for me), so any fuzziness that appears due to scaling imperfection is really quite minimal. It helps that the screen doesn't have any observable PWM; combined with the clarity and sharpness I can read this WOT that I'm writing 1 metre away with no issues (but for the record, I can read conductor scores on the podium with the stand below my hip level, so maybe I have better eyesight than some...?)

Ports: generally good. I'm not a fan of having the power inlet at the back or near the fans (pun not intended); it makes the footprint of the laptop unnecessarily bigger. The only real quibble about the rest of the ports is that the USB ports are pretty tight... maybe it just needs some working in.

Miscellaneous: coil whine can be heard occasionally, but that's usually only right after it is plugged into the wall and usually disappears pretty quickly. Also, get your cleaning cloth out, because you can't stop playing with this baby. It actually is much less of a fingerprint magnet than expected, so the matted (but not overly rough) plastic surface has served its purpose well.

Hadriel

 

The only thing you're missing is the actual model you got but great little review you got there! I assume you got the 775DM3.

 

LOL can't believe I actually missed something that obvious out. Patched that in. Cheers.

CB

 

Thank you.

I got the p170em with a 980M and it's passing through Optimum so it's HDMI 1.4.

I don't know if in the P775DM3-G also pass through the intel chipset or straight from the 1080.

Let's if someone can confirm which HDMI it is.

 

The track pad and finger scanner are so horrible in this model. The finger scanner in my old W870CU is so much better. And the mouse pad is not usable at all. Anyone agrees?

 

I will confirm for you, it will be HDMI 2.0.. My old Clevo P771ZM is HDMI2.0... The Intel desktop chips + 970M I had were 2.0 compliant and hence it was so..

This has a 6700K with 1080 which should also be 2.0...

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For all P750DM2-G owners wanting to upgrade to the 120Hz screen: Eurocom has the AUO 15.6" 120Hz TN screens (AUO B156HTN05.2 apparently?) listed and being sold separately through their X4E2 upgrades page. Just placed an older for one, total price after shipping is $323. That is MASSIVELY overpriced, but I need this.

 

Quick question about the heat. I noticed people stating high temps with the 6700k and 1080... With the eurocom skyX7E2 (I guess that would be the 775DM3 now) if you were to use a 6700 (non k) and 1070 GTX, would that not have significantly lower temps while still having excellent performance for the price?

 

There are some heatsink differences but the lower power will of course take some load off the thermals.

 

Hello Meaker.

Can you confirm with the engineers about the HDMI 2.0b port?

Thanks a lot

 

Sorry about that price markup. Did they specify if that panel supports G-sync? Either way, would love to hear your thoughts on it after you get it installed.

 

They would confirm it was direct and 2.0 so I would take that to be a positive. HDCP is the same but not certified.

 

What does the 2nd EC bios do, exactly?
And does even exist a "1.05.04" (primary) EC bios?
My friend just got back his P775DM3G from syspack with 1.05.06 main bios and a strange 1.05.04 EC bios: one fan goes full speed, touchpad key triggers camera instead of touchpad, and system deosn't recognize LAN, WLAN and BLUETOOTH at all.
Maybe EC is wrong?

 

Keyboard/lights/fan split between the two otherwise you would need a beast of a single chip to handle all the I/O

 

@Consumered description for the Sky X4E2 states "You can choose from a FHD (60Hz or 120Hz) G-SYNC panel" which implies the panel is the G-SYNC variant.
@oile check the service manual, you can see schematic-wise what each EC is connected to. 2nd EC just does keyboard/keyboard backlight, something with the headphone plug,

 

still no gsync for me with the 376.19 driver. wow!

 

The 15.6" panel is G-sync certified yes.

 

How would this laptop handle the i7-6700K? Would it run cool enough?

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just curious don't you have the fine horizontal lines on your 3K (2560x1440) screen? Cause tbh i'm quite the nitpicker if i put out so much money and see such imperfections. I'm still unsure if everyone has them cause i read in the forum that several people have them, they even included some pictures they took, dunno if i should even RMA cause so far XMG doesn't seem that supportive to me after i asked for the missing thermal pad beneath the GPU, cause i'm waiting for the 120hz FHD screen anyways to upgrade/sidegrade whatever if it has about the same 5ms reaction time.

 

i have a 15 incher from the maxwell gen sporting a 6700k. granted ive done some mods to let it run even cooler / overclock it, but i remember it not having throttled at stock paste/voltages even under load. with a moderate undervolt ull definitely get it under control

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Well I just ordered mine took me long enough. I was after the P870dm3 for a while and then decided it was too heavy for me, and went with AW13 OLED model. But Dell was taking forever in assembling the unit and they were also not very forthcoming about it. In the meantime I ended up spending some time on a friend's P775dm, the maxwell variety. I instantly took to the machine and decided to cancel my alienware order.

I have ordered the following configuration from Scan (UK):
i7 6700k/32gb ram/512 sm961/ 4k g-sync screen.

I will add another tb of storage later. I went with scan over pc specialist because a) they are delivering the machine in two working days (!) b) G-sync on the 4K model. Looking forward to being part of the club.


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I've also ordered mine a couple days ago from obsidian. GTX 1080, 6600k delidded, and with the grizzly kryonaut thermal paste, 16gb ram and 250gb m2 ssd with the 1080p screen. I think I'll miss the 3k resolution of the P650SG while in the desktop, but certainly not while playing .

Now I only hope they'll build it for next week.

 

Heyo. I don't think I have them. There's just a very faint horizontal line where the windows taskbar would be positioned, but that only appears at a certain viewing angle, and only for some colours, whereas when I change the background colour (e.g. to red, just using powerpoint) it disappears. That might be a slight burn-in thing, but is practically invisible thus a non-issue for me. Do you have a photo or something that I can see to check against? I've not been keeping up with posts much.

Hadriel

 

Installing EC 1.05.04 now. Would be nice to see what changes did they make. Previous EC (1.05.03) was compiled on 2016.08.11. (or around that date), this new EC is 2016.11.25., so Clevo spent 3 months on fine tuning (hopefully after hearing some feedback).

 

I can't deal with the desktop being quite so small myself. Very nice setup, it should handle everything no problem

 

pc-konsulten.se (ivy pc) says they have 120hz IPS QHD panel for 775DM3. Does anyone know the model of this panel and possible reviews? Would it ghost during gaming? There is only one IPS QHD and one TN QHD 120Hz panels on the market for 17.3, right?

Also, I am willing to buy 775DM3 with 6700K and 1080. Should I do something special for it not to throttle? Thanks guys!

 

I've used a 1080p monitor since 2008/2009 and there was never enough space to work in the desktop. I actually had a 768p monitor for some time, even tried some sort of external display when I had my first smartphone Anything to fit one more window in there
The 3k monitor of the P650SG was at 125% scaling just so I could have 2 or 3 windows side by side and still do something. Few games I managed to run nice at 3k though, unless I lowered the video quality settings but I didn't want to do that.

Now, for this model, it was the screen or a delidded cpu, not both. Even there the other choice without going for resellers with too high prices was the 4k monitor, and that would have been too much imho.
Maybe I'll look for a 1440p panel to upgrade to later next year.

Too bad I can't really left this laptop in a desk with one or two external monitors permanently attached, and at home there's no place to put the laptop on and use my 24'' without closing the lid I'll need a new desk soon