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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    With a thermal pad the results should be even better too.
     
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    It's interesting that the SM951 sees higher temperatures but doesn't throttle as badly as the 950 Pro. I certainly wouldn't run either drive that hard all the time, but for normal everyday usage, it's not really a concern.

    Puget Systems, the company whose video I linked above, will add their own heatsinks to PCI-Express drives in order to mitigate any throttling. It's nice because then they assume all the risk for any warranty work that may be needed in the event of a failure. I actually considered ordering my new notebook from them because I've heard nothing but good things. They use Clevo chassis, but 1) they haven't listed Pascal availability and 2) their machines are stupid expensive - at least a few hundred dollars more than what you'd find from any of the retailers who regularly post here. Puget's support is supposed to be really good, but the same can be said for most of the other sellers as well.
     
  3. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Wasn't that tested on a desktop, though? Would thermal pads even help an M2 NVMe drive in a desktop?

    edit: Oh, it was tested in a laptop... Would an M2 NVMe drive even throttle in a desktop?
     
  4. Omexis

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    Been having trouble downloading the user manual for the p775dm2/3 from the clevo website, "sorry, no matches data found". Anyone else get the same message?
     
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    Meaker@Sager - Also check the 2nd link in my post where Puget Systems attached an aluminum strip to the SSD with some thermal pads. Another post I've seen suggested (for those in the States) some old style copper pennies. Poster suggested a 6C drop. LOL.

    My biggest concern on all these mods would be if there is enough clearance in these Clevo cases.
    This image macro never gets old - clearance-clarence.jpg
     
  6. FriendOfEntropy

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    Well, I've got it saved for later in a shopping cart, but haven't clicked purchase yet.

    Coming from a 3 1/2 year old crappy Dell with a I5-3337U low power dual core with 6GB RAM, I should feel the power with this config.

    Seeing as that Dell was 14" and only 4.5 lbs, I should feel the size and weight too :) Any my wallet is going to feel it, ouch. But if I can make a craptastic Dell last 3 1/2 years, surely I will get many years of service out of this expensive beast too.

    Chassis - Clevo P750DM2-G
    Mobile Display 15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) IPS Matte LCD w/ G-Sync
    Monitor Calibration Free
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-6700 4.00GHz, 8MB Cache, Quad Core Processor (65W)
    Thermal Compound Free IC Diamond Thermal Compound
    System Memory 64GB (4 x 16GB) , PC4-19200, 2400MHz DDR4 SODIMM
    Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5
    AC Adapter 230W AC Adapter
    RAID None
    m.2 Slots 1 None
    m.2 Slots 2 None
    Hard Drive 1 Samsung 500GB 850 EVO SATA 6GB/sec SSD
    Hard Drive 2 1TB 7200 32MB Cache SATA 3GB/sec Mecanical Hard Drive
    Sound Card Realtek Audio w/ Sound Blaster SB5 w/ ESS SABRE HiFi AUDIO DAC (Headphone Amplifier)
    Keyboard Standard Backlit Keyboard - NON Chiclet
    Network Card Killer E2400 LAN + Intel 8260 Wireless-AC
    Bluetooth Integrated Bluetooth 4.0 (On supported wireless cards)
    Operating System Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
    Extra AC Adapter Extra AC Adapter (330W)
    Assurance Lifetime Assurance with Lifetime Labor + 1 Year Parts Warranty, 1 Yr 2-Way Shipping Cont US
    System Media + Mousepad
     
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    May I ask why you chose 64GB of RAM? Do you need it for a specific purpose? Because you could probably get 32GB, save some bucks and that would be already excessive for almost everything normal users need RAM for.
     
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    Bunch of poorly optimized databases all running at once?
     
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    Photoshop? XD

    An image in photoshop can easily eat 10 GB of RAM and crash the whole computer with 16GB of RAM, I surely would want to get 64GB of RAM this time :D
     
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    Most probably some Virtual Machine love :p
     
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    I would just utter stuff like "because I can" and "MOAR RAM", but the truth is that I just don't want to even have to see the wall in the distance anymore, muchless run into it.

    Yes, some virtual machines like BSD/Ubuntu that won't have to have anemic RAM allotments, memory hog development environments like Eclipse, Visual Studio, Android Studio, maybe even be able to keep multiple Android emulators and a Windows 10 phone emulator running at once for deploying cross-platform code and running automated tests on different form factors and versions.

    My current crappy Dell can't even run one small android emulator well, and I just can't take it anymore :)
     
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    My vote is for 'D) All of the above.'
     
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    That too, I think I've tied up that much RAM on a server with too many VMs before.
     
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    @Tanner@XoticPC any word of you guys will allow people to upgrade the lcd panel for a fee? If I can find a US vendor willing to do this I am ready to pull the trigger.
     
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    Was wondering if someone might give me a reality check here. Like others I am looking at a
    SAGER NP9172-S (CLEVO P775DM3) with a 1070 and the 1080 panel. As I have read many a woe tale a about missed 120Mhz screens, or 120 screensMhz that don't have GSYNC..

    I need a reality check. Is there really that much difference between the 1080P/60Mhz/Gsync and the 1080P/120Mhz/No Sync?

    Looking for some guidance. Is this the preferred option order for 1080P screens?
    1) 1080P @ 120Mhz with Gsync (which nobody has.. supposedly Aorus mid Sept).
    2) 1080P @ 120Mhz (no Gsync)
    3) 1080P @ 60Mhz with Gsync

    Or should option #3 be #2? I
    don't want to go 4k, head too many people complain. I appreciate the replies.
     
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    I'd be surprised if most games could consistently hit 120Hz, so I don't think a non-G-SYNC verison is worth much -- without G-SYNC it's just going to oscillate between 120fps and 60fps. Not sure I see the point. Though is anyone shipping 120Hz panels that aren't G-SYNC? Does that even work? I don't think I've seen any.

    120Hz G-SYNC lets it adaptively handle any refresh rates up to 120Hz smoothly. Definitely the way to go on FHD panel with a high-powered GPU, once it becomes available.

    60Hz (I think they're generally 75Hz though?) G-SYNC lets you smoothly handle any fps below 60 (or 75), which probably isn't a big deal with a 1080 since you'll probably be capped for most games. Still better than locked at 60Hz though, so if you do dip below 60fps you're not dropping all the way to 30fps.
     
  17. TBoneSan

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    You're describing behaviour of Vsync. 99% of people using 120hz panels turn off vsync unless gsync is on offer.
     
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    Could you share with CPU and GPU temp in heavy (and long) load after you receive it? :D
    Will you try to OC GPU? And what PSU You will receive, dual 220's or single 330?
     
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    So TBoneSan - would you suggest going with a 120Mhz panel then that doesn't have gsync? My preference would be to wait for sager/clevo to offer a 120Mhz with Gsync but I have time deadline that might prevent be from waiting. I appreciate any thoughts.
     
  20. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    I dunno man, I have 32GB and to me it's more than enough for several Virtual Machines. :D
     
  21. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    I'm probably part of the minority here but personally I'd take 120hz gsync or no gysnc over 60 Hz gsync anything (including 4k).
    I've got a 100hz gsync panel in my Clevo 870D right now. It's nice but the thing is, 45* fps still feels like ass with or without gysnc in my opinion.

    I'd take 120hz, obviously if GSync is on offer too that would be great.
     
  22. Isaac1980

    Isaac1980 Notebook Guru

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    It has arrived... Any suggestions around benchmarking tools etc? Firestrike is in order, and might have a dabble in OC cpu and gpu, but I'm not very experienced so I'll have to take it easy lol I can't wait to bust out Witcher 3 finally ;)
     
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    +1, you are not alone my friend.
     
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    Ha great!!! Before you OC anything, measure the temps at stock first :)
    Aside of Firestrike, please also do a 3DMark11 run. Scores + Temps and you get some +REP.

    Enjoy your beast!
    It seems like you are the first P775DM3 owner here, so we count on you ;)
     
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    Maybe you should repaste (with at least IC Diamond or better CLU) after measuring temps on (factory) stock. Then measuring again. After that you may go nuts on oc'ing da crap out of ya rig! :D
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Thanks heaps... Now as soon as I deal with this perpetual Windows reboot issue and actually get into the laptop I can check it all out... I am trying the Windows disk "reset this computer" option now sigh...
     
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    Lol update: fresh installing Windows from DVD now... Hoping not have to install all drivers again. Also hoping that my 950pro can install Windows fast... :eek:
     
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    I think a single 330. But yeah I'll put it through the paces.
     
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    Post pics! There's literally nothing on this machine yet
     
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    I'm curious if this system uses the same 330W PSU that was optional on the P770ZM.
     
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    Well what would be better? 2x240 or one 330? Would it make a difference either way?
     
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    IMG_2895.JPG IMG_2896.JPG IMG_2898.JPG
    Not much interesting to show yet, only just gotten it running lol but here are a couple boring pics... if you want to see something specific just ask.
     

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    Sure, but then you're just going to see tearing. If you don't care about tearing, then yeah go nuts.
     
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    Pics of the IO and if its not too much trouble under the rear panel.
     
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    Once frame rate are about 100 fps on a high refresh rate monitor tearing isn't much of an issue.

    Can you please run 3D mark 11 :D
     
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    Cinebench before OC.png Cinebench stock...
     
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    Hey I appreciate the insights. Thanks!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    I should be getting mine this week from hyperbook.pl (Poland).
    As per this spec:
    HYPERBOOK X77VR (Hyperbook X77VR [CLEVO P775DM2/P775DM3]) = 12913.00 zł
    • Screen: 17,3" LED Full HD 1920 x 1080, Non-Glare
    • Screen Calibration: 0 None
    • Processor: Intel Desktop Core i7-6700K, Skylake, 4 x 4.2GHz, 8MB Cache, 95W
    • GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5 G-SYNC - X77DM2
    • Keyboard: Multicolour backlit keyboard X series - US
    • RAM: 16 GB (2 x 8) DDR4 2133 MHz CL15
    • First SSD M.2: INTEL SSD 540 Series 120GB M.2 SATAIII (read/write; 560/480MB/s)
    • Hard Disk 2,5": 240 GB SSD CRUCIAL BX200 SATAIII 7mm (540 / 490 MB/s)
    • Second SSD M.2: 0 None
    • 2nd 2,5" Hard Disk: HDD 2TB SEAGATE Mobile 128MB SATAIII, 2,5", 5400RPM, 7mm
    • Wireless Network: Killer Wireless-AC 1535 AC + Bluetooth Gaming M.2
    • Optical Drive: 0 None
    • Operating System: Windows 10 Home BOX USB ENG
    • Cooling Paste: High-end Cooling Paste applied for CPU and GPU
    • Cooling System: Advanced cooling system (polishing GPU and CPU heatsink)
    • Custom BIOS logo: Standard HYPERBOOK BIOS logo
    • Branding on LCD back cover: Standard Hyperbook logo
    • Warranty: VIP warranty - 36 months Door to Door + "Zero bad pixels" insurance for 60 days + mouse + bag
    Will report, take pics, tests, maybe a video of it when I receive it.
     
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    Nice, I'm going also to buy P775DM from Hyperbook after I sell my P870DM/GTR87 (also from Hyperbook).
    Please share with GPU and CPU temps under heavy load! :)
     
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    First thing I'd like to know is impressions on fan noise (idle and under load), along with overall temperature (I.E. can you feel the heat in the keyboard/palm area).
     
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    Yeah, Fans RPM can be read in HWInfo, that would tell us a loot.
     
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    i would say 99% yes. there is only one model 330W psu available on the market nowadays and that hasnt changed in years :)

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    Agreed, its the same one that it has always been for Clevo.. Have one here too with my Batman :)
     
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    I figured that was probably true. Good as I can keep the one I already have as a backup and sell my P770ZM with the 230W that currently fulfills that roll.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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    The fans are as loud as any i've ever heard (under load) lol, but they are a soothing high pitch that lets you know they are doing their job and keeping your supernaturally powerful GPU adequately serviced (like a particularly wild animal, they need the most love..<3 ). I haven't noticed any heat at all yet (playing on a table), but I haven't had a chance to really put it through it's paces yet. My first four hours were spent trying to get it working, and then I had to go to bed at 12:00 before getting up at 5:30 for the gym lol... Going to Firestrike it tonight and upload screenshots :vbthumbsup:
     
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    Much disappoint.

    I wonder how much difference picking the 1070 and untervolting the CPU would make.
     
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    I think it's a very subjective situation, I haven't heard a lot off gaming laptops fans to compare so... I don't find it obturusive to be honest, but when running Cinebench last night it did sound like it might take off o_O
     
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    That's a 1080 inside, it would be really strange if it were too silent, given the size of the fan and the cooling.

    At least it won't throttle and it;s really up to performance , no? :D
     
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    Thanks for the update Isaac! If heat is under control with no throttling I think most are willing to deal with the fan noise given the hardware under the hood.
     
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