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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Here is the thermal pad size chart for the 775. (Also posted here in the liquid metal thread.)

    Enjoy. :)

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    Is this the Meaker chart, or the Clevo chart??
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Hey there Donald,

    I'm not sure if I quite follow? This is my chart that I've put together for other 775 owners wanting to order thermal pads.
     
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    Ah, thank you for clarifying. Do I understand that you developed this method of thermal pad application then?
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    The only difference that I make is sometimes laying the thermal pad over the VRMs first instead of on the heat sink as some of the alignment isn't always spot on, therefore the only way to ensure full coverage of the chip is to lay the thermal pads on the chip directly.
     
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    SynergyUK Notebook Consultant

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    Delid and CLU done. So far I have only applied CLU to the die, between that and the heat spreader. I have used Thermal Grizzly on the heat spreader and GPU.

    Played an hour of The Witcher 3 and using auto fan profile, GPU maxed at 83 and CPU at 80. Im happy with those temps but a few more degrees would be the icing on the cake.

    I've got the bug now. Even considering contacting someone to custom build a heat sink/pipes/vapor chamber. I think Clevo releasing an improved BIOS may help too.

    An amazing machine but definitely needs taming.
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The optimal custom pad layout has the thinnest pad at 0.5mm, the above needs 0.5mm removed from every pad there.
     
  8. Glace

    Glace Newbie

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    If I purchase a p775dm2 now, will I have to send it back to my reseller once the Prema bios comes out so that they can put it on the laptop or will it be released so that I am able to do it myself?
     
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    Once Prema finishes the BIOS and vBIOS, we will reach out to you and flash them for you remotely in your Windows environment...Prema is a genius!
     
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    awesome service!
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    duh, nevermind, misread your post ^^ nice service indeed, although im always a bit jumpy when it comes to bios flashing in windows... make sure to set all clocks and voltages to default before doing such things people! stability is key in that instance...

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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    SynergyUK Notebook Consultant

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    Is it possible to get the prema bios without having purchased the machine from an approved reseller?
     
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    Asbel1 Notebook Enthusiast

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    i just purchased that laptop about 3 week ago for my fhd 120hz i got an email today they gave me 3k 120hz gysnc for free now this clevo laptop is metabox from australlia i live in austraila and it cheaper than msi 1080 laptop same price i love metabox now they give me free 120hz 3k gysnc i am very happy now i getting the laptop this week. allenware is rip off warrnty now too expensive laptop australla metabox is cheaper laptop for now australla. i love clevo this is first my laptop of gaming.
     
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    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    You sound more excited than I sound paranoid whenever I find a little problem to nitpick on. :D

    Cheers!
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I would be excited too if my first gaming notebook was such a beast :)
     
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    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Not to mention... Windows Updates... *shudders*
     
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    Hey guys, any update for the P750 get the 1920x1080 120hz screen?
     
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    edryr Notebook Consultant

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    Hey guys. I got my 775dm3 one week ago, and so far i'm really happy with this laptop. My 75hz ips screen holds 120hz without a glitch, and temperatures are just unbelievable. And well, that's what i'm getting worried about to be precise because my computer is REALLY loud and it's annoying. I mean, after 3 hours of witcher 3 in full ultra vsync off, my graphic card can't get hotter than 55 degress, and my cpu 58 ( i5 6600k @4.2ghz, -150mv core/cache ). I just did a repast job with prolimatech pk3, didn't delid or anything. I even tried to OC at 4.5ghz with stock voltage, and after 30 mns of occt, can't get past 61 degrees on the cpu.
    When i set manualy my fan to start at 70 degress, they still start loudly even if gpu or cpu don't reach 55 degrees. And when i put my hand behind the cpu around the gpu air flow, it's really hot.

    I saw on the new AW m15x thread that some people start to question the thermal sensor, and i'm starting to really question my thermal sensors as well, even if i checked with cpu-z, gpu-z, ts, hwinfo.
    Is it possible that thermal sensors ar screwed, or at least don't report back the good temps to windowsbut still report the good ones to EC ( that would explain why even with customized fan profile, the fans start way under the target temp )?
    And is it possible to bypass the control center to tweak the fans ?

    BTW gpu is 1070.
     
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  20. Kittys

    Kittys Notebook Evangelist

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    While it holds 120 does it get pixel inversion?

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U
     
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    EARNEST Notebook Consultant

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    Was there a particular reason they went with a 4-pin psu? Is there an adapter to transform it into a circular one so I can test on my old clevo?
     
  22. edryr

    edryr Notebook Consultant

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    Don't know what is pixel inversion. If it's a glitch or artefact, i have absolutely none and screen is perfect, ingame or desktop.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    4 Pins give a higher current capacity interface.
     
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    Yes, it is required for anything over 180W. There is no adapter that I am aware of, and this would be to prevent people from doing exactly what you are suggesting. The 330W would burn up a barrel socket within seconds.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well the standard barrel goes up to 230W, of course the higher power interface is used for the dual 330W so 660W or over 34 amp connector!
     
  26. Georgel

    Georgel Notebook Virtuoso

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    1070 + 6600 sounds okay, though they should run a bit hotter.

    Noise is normal to be quite high - especially if you're stressing both CPU and GPU at the same time.
     
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    knibbler Notebook Evangelist

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    Sometimes when i dont turn overclock fan speed on it will freeze during a high res game. I usualy see stuck on the screen, rivatuner displaying mid 80's for gpu and cpu. Does anyone else experience this?
     
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    Freeze is not normal - or rather I got it before due to CPU OC.

    Just format, erase everything, format - take out battery - take out RAMs, keep power button pressed - reinstall windows - and don't OC - set it to 42 - 42 - 40 - 40 frm Bios, maybe don't install XTU CCC and then see if it still happens.

    And don't game with fans on Auto - it's not supposed to be like that - youre probably getting 86 C- and growing if it's on auto...
     
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    GWW1 Notebook Guru

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    Do you have a cpu or gpu undervolt? If so this could be the cause, stability decreases as temperature increases. So you may need to either increase voltage closer to stock or just always run with max fans or overclock profile for high stress games.
     
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    Guys, should be getting my laptop soon. Can you please guide me towards some manuals or tips regarding:
    1. Undervolting: how do I do it? Is it really required? Do I lose a lot of perf? Does it run cooler?
    2. Overclocking: is it supported on Prema only?
    3. Windows 10 drivers and software to install, and their order (if relevant)?
    Thanks a lot!
     
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    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    I undervolt using ThrottleStop. Undervolting does not lose performance, underclocking would but it would bring down your temps even more. Yes, undervolting makes your CPU run cooler.
     
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    Does it mean ThrottleStop will undervolt the CPU after starting the OS?
     
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    Quoting myself for this part. Aren't there third party tools to adjust as we want the fan profiles ? This noise even at low temps is driving me crazy.

    And is it possible to undervolt gpu ?
     
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    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Yes.

    Nope, you can't adjust the fan profiles. As for undervolting GPU, you'd basically need a custom vBIOS for that.
     
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    GWW1 Notebook Guru

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    You can undervolt the gpu using the latest version of msi afterburner as you can adjust the voltage/clock speed curve.
    I think EVGA Precision has the same functionality too.
     
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    The problem is that it just doesn't work at all. In personnal fan profile, even if i set 70 degrees for fans to start, they still start at 50 degrees or so.
    Getting so annoyed that i consider selling back this so noisy computer.
    Ty for answer anyway.

    I'll try evga precision, as latest version of msi afterburner doiesn't give me this option. Ty.
     
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    In afterburner you press Ctrl+F to get to the curve, I don't know why they didn't add a button for it....
     
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    Yes i do. That makes sense. Ill keep those fans on :)
     
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    i just the laptop yesterday metabox and its so powerful i tried witcher 3 on 3k everything maxium no slow down at all beatuiful screen good aduio and i tried pcsx2 one game is tales of lengedia on 8x native still fullspeed no slow down i am doing fastfoward still perfect no overheating at all no speedhacks on just mutithread. they give me black version thats rare picture mistake is will be silver they gave black
     
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    they gave 2 subwooffer on my laptop
     
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    I was given an extra gpu, but i was honest and gave it back. :rolleyes:
     
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    :eek:

    Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
     
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    I know, I said you can't, not that you can. :p

    Noise doesn't bother me since my Clevos don't actually get that loud, but a lot of the newer ones sound like they get quite loud.
     
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    Just popping in to say thanks to you guys, have been lurking around for a while looking for a new work laptop waiting for my old 17inch Macbook to die, and finally bit the bucket and got myself a 750DM-2 with a 1070 in it and 32GB of RAM based on what I've read here. Handles all the 3D work/software I do like an absolute beast!
     
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    hey guys i'm here, still takes a while to have her in my hands but still, see signature :p
     
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    Its been a tough couple of weeks but my 775dm3-g is going back.

    I just cant control the temps/fan noise.

    I think the 1080 and 6700k combo is just too much for this chassis. Might downgrade to the 6700 non-k as I don't intend to overclock. This may shave the temps just enough for me to be content playing with the fan profile set to auto.
     
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    I've received my laptop today, waiting for 32Gb RAM and for 960 Pro. But will start testing on a 2Tb HDD this weekend. Kapton tape delivered, waiting for Grizzly liquid metal paste.
     
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    I don't think the 6700 will be much different -- you can always limit the TDP to the chip with the 6700k and make it effectively a 6700, as I understand it.

    What kind of temps were you seeing? I typically play on auto where my fans are pretty quiet, and even on demanding stuff I end up with upper-80s temps, which is hot but not awful, and definitely not throttling. I certainly wouldn't mind a fan setting between overclock (which tends to go ALL FANS ON FULL way too easily) and auto.
     
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    What's up with fuzzy fonts and icons on 4K in win10?
     
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    Windows 10 DPI Fix

    The problem in Windows 10:

    When you have a widescreen, with a resolution of 1920x1080 or higher or a bit lower, in Windows Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1 you would put your DPI scaling to 125% or higher to make text and images appear larger and more easy to read.
    But when you put the DPI scaling to 125% in Windows 10, you see in a lot of dialogs and windows the font gets very blurry.
    It does not matter if you are using the regular or custom Windows DPI scaling functions at your 'Screen properties'. Text will get blurry on 125%.
    You can test if you have this bug also if you put your DPI scaling to 125% at your 'Screen properties', then reboot Windows (or sign in again when it asks you).
    Then goto 'Control panel > Administrative tools > Services'.
    If you have this issue also you would see the titlebar of the Services window has a font scaled good. But the services list itself is very blurry/unsharp to read.

    The SIMPLE fix:
    Right-click on the shortcut to your application that has blurry fonts, then select 'Properties'. Then tab 'Compatibility'. Then enable 'Disable display scaling on high DPI settings' and hit 'Apply'. then restart your application, and you see it will look good.

    The DPI fix:

    Windows 10 is using another scaling method for DPI as in Windows Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1.
    At some point we can understand Windows why they changed the DPI scaling in Windows 10. It is probably meant to support mobile devices more easy.
    But if you like to use your Desktop as a Desktop, and you demand high quality only. Then you can use this fix until Microsoft has addressed this issue.
    This fix simple tells Windows 10 to use the original DPI scaling as it was in Windows Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1.

    Why this is a small software program, and not some 'Registry Tweak' is because when you manually adjust the DPI settings at your 'Windows Registry'. Windows will reset your dpi settings every 2 reboots. Which means you would have to adjust the registry again (Microsoft forces you almost to use its new DPI scaling method).
    You could use a batch file for it that starts when you start Windows(r) to change the registry DPI settings, but then a ugly CMD box would show if you turn on your computer.
    This method we created simple works, does what you want. And will not show a ugly CMD box because its using pure API.

    Side effects:

    - It needs to start when Windows starts, but only for a couple milliseconds (you will not see it of course). Then it will adjust the DPI scaling to use the Windows 8 way. And then it will close itself.
    - In Microsoft Edge (its new browser) some Adobe Flash objects will appear smaller, but you can simple overcome that by using Internet Explorer 11, or Chrome, or FireFox.

    See before and after.


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