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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. Red Line

    Red Line Notebook Deity

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    Great results) Did you just bump up clocks no msi ab voltage tweaks? Could you, please, run Time Spy as well? Tnx

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
     
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    no voltage change allowed right now, i used precision X not afterburner. I did core + 200 vram + 400 no problem at all. temp below 80. I will run time spy when i get home today.
    actually I tried oc my vram +600 (to 9200mhz) and it works below 60C no artifact, and after running for 5min artifact start to fk up everything. However core won't go above 2100mhz, i tried 203mhz and it crash. But yeah 2100mhz very solid have used it for days.
     
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    2100Mhz is a nice sample :)
     
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    knibbler Notebook Evangelist

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    So, how is GPU fan offset supposed to work? I'm running hot and loud. It's ridiculous. Seems the gpu is hotter. ( my old lappie with 6700k was super cool)
    I'm running stock everything. I enable gpu overstock just to access the fan offset thing
     
  5. knibbler

    knibbler Notebook Evangelist

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    I want to undervolt the cpu but although I read the whole thread, I'm confused. Is this something I have to do everytime I start windows or will it remember? Should I use xtu or ccpanel?
     
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    It will remember the settings. What was your old system and what is your new system?
     
  7. knibbler

    knibbler Notebook Evangelist

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    I had (still have) the P770DM-G. 6700k with 980m and premas vbios.
    That thing runs cool and all you hear is a rush of air when function+1 is pressed.

    I want to love this new beast but geez. I thought all the ruckus on here was exaggerated but nope.
    If I undervolt, will I lose the 4.0 ghz frequency? Does one have to overclock after undervolting to break even?

    Running the 6700k with gtx 1080
     
  8. ccarollo

    ccarollo Notebook Consultant

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    Undervolting has no effect on performance. The chip just runs cooler and uses less power. You just need to make sure that it's getting enough power to run properly -- if it fails, it'll start bluescreening/hanging.

    Personally I get hangs at -160mv, but -150mv has been completely solid.
     
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    Yes, the 1080 is more kin to the 980 desktop chip rather than your old 980m.
     
  10. lmybobbob

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    not sure what u mean sample. I bought laptop myself, no discount and certainly not review sample.

    -150mv on the 6700K you mean? that would be cool, I tried -70 and it works fine, and i just didn't bother pushing more since temp is manageable...
     
  11. Q937

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    Sample as in specimen.
     
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  12. knibbler

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    Alright, I'm going to undervolt through the control center. I hope that helps cool the gpu better as well.
     
  13. lmybobbob

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    bro you got ur laptop already? how is the temp?
    my X4E2's fan are useless lol, minimum fan speed give me exactly the same temp as MAX fan speed... Im almost sure the high temp is becase heatpipe is not powerful enough lol.
     
  14. knibbler

    knibbler Notebook Evangelist

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    Yeah,
    Yeah, it's brutal. And windows 10 is hanging on many thing's. Even the start button comes and goes. That's what I hate about new computers. Getting all the bugs out.
    I saw some of your live stream. Wish i had your skills :oops:
     
  15. lmybobbob

    lmybobbob Notebook Enthusiast

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    lol i still can't talk cuz my throat is completely broken that day lol. well yeah if you have any question about windows, drivers, etc let me know :)
     
  16. ccarollo

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    Yep, -150mv on the 6700K. Barely ever sees 80C unless I'm pushing it pretty hard, with default fans.

    It's funny, depending on what you're playing, this laptop is either the quietest or loudest laptop I've ever owned.
     
  17. lmybobbob

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    wow -150mv would be opop, i will try it tonit and see how far low my 6700k can go... did u overclock the 6700k tho? cuz I'm at 45 44 44 44 / 44...

    u should try setting fan speed low and see if the temp rise or not.. .cuz on my P750DM2-G fan speed doesn't make a difference at all.... I hate the high fan speed...It is like a sassy b, it is not the deep strong fan noise like thinkpad T series...
     
  18. ccarollo

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    No overclock, I'm not interested in crazy perf (stock 6700K is plenty for everything I do). Mostly I'm interested in keeping it as cool/quiet/stable as possible.
     
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  19. lmybobbob

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    I just ran Timespy, here is the result:

    Gsync On, Geforce Experience ON - 5709 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15268321?
    Gsync Off, Geforce Experience ON - 5755 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15268433?
    Gsync On, Geforce Experience Off - 5724 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15268541?
    Gsync Off, Geforce Experience Off - Bench crashed not sure why, second test is 5788 http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15268580?

    The GPU is not running at 2100mhz, 3dmark report 1935, 1949, 2025, 1785 mhz. I can see it not running at full load coz the temp is lower than when running unigen valley.

    score seems a little low. I don't know what's the deal, I mean laptop GTX 1070 has 124 more cuda core than desktop GTX1070, and running at same frequency 2100mhz, why not the mark 5% higher... so weird.
     
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  20. Tony Palmer

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    mines never above 70 degrees either at stock settings no delid just gelid extreme
     
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  21. Red Line

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    Imybobbob, are you using 230w psu? Check gpu and voltage load in gpu-z, it might just be power throttling due to stock bios. Try to run same test (select 2 gtaphics custom tests) only increasing core clocks step by step and then memory clocks.

    Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
     
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    i sure hope not @delid, that would be catastrophic for the gpu :D not to say, impossible.... :rolleyes: :p
     
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  23. Tony Palmer

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    Yeah just noticed I'd missed off no delid for the cpu haha but my cpu hadn't gone over 80 even in benchmarks. Noisy bugger over 60 degrees though
     
  24. Tony Palmer

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    Does anyone know the stock speeds for the 1080 card?
     
  25. clevoiscool

    clevoiscool Notebook Guru

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    guys, what to do my system and compressed memory loading CPU all the time 20% when I am using utorrent via wifi. what can it be???
    [​IMG]
     
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  26. temp00876

    temp00876 Notebook Evangelist

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    The Clevo ones has 1582Mhz core/1251Mhz mem, core boost is 1771Mhz. In NBR, 1080N is 1566Mhz with a boost of 1733Mhz.
     
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    Im using 330W PSU. I will check GPU-Z tonit, it didn't run into power throttling when running Unigen Valley tho, consistent 2100mhz. Well work load is different, i will try to figure it out today.
     
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    Check your cpu temp.
     
  29. lmybobbob

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    I just run some test, it is indeed power throttling. Even on stock speed, it power throttle hard. Not sure what to do here besides wait for @Prema magic.
     
  30. Meaker@Sager

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    Of course turbo 3.0 can go above these speeds.
     
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    OK so basically this model is identical to the original P75x-DM as far as processing power goes. Ladies and gentlemen, silicon technology has reached a plateau, which is great news because now we don't need to replace our machines once a year.
     
  32. Georgel

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    Listened to this laptopy with ie800. Pure pure love <3 coming out of the headphone jack.
     
  33. Hadriel

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    I'm almost ready to pull the trigger... almost... I'm waiting for Samsung 960 Pro to be released for sale sigh. The SM961 is also out of stock everywhere.

    Hadriel
     
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  34. knibbler

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    Throttlestop 8.1 beta 2 says "cpu not supported". Does it not work on the 775DM3?


    Update: disregard, Im an idiot. I found the newer version
     
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  35. Hadriel

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    So... Garry from Eurocom just told me that the 120 Hz FHD screen is not G-Sync compatible. Shame... maybe I could wait for it to be certified...

    Hadriel
     
  36. Mr. Fox

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    Don't wait. It is not going to receive certification from NVIDIA. You will need to go with the old 1080p 75Hz screen, the new 3K 120Hz or 4K if G-Sync is important to you.
     
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  37. Hadriel

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    I do remember people saying the LG 1080p OCs quite well to 100 Hz? I guess I could downsize the resolution from 4K too. Does 3K downscale to FHD properly? Also, out of curiosity is the colour reproduction of the 3K screen comparable to the LG FHD screen?

    Hadriel
     
  38. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    AFAIK 4K screen will downsample properly with current resolution standards. If that "3K" is 2560x1440 then it will also do.
     
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    1440p should be a nice resolution to run at, I don't like it scaled down personally.
     
  40. Mr. Fox

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    The 4K G-Sync screen that I had on the Sky X9 review unit sucked. (I think that about all 4K laptop screens to keep this in context. It was a good quality 4K screen.) It looked gorgeous running at native resolution. However, it would not overclock and it looked like pure crap running at a lower resolution. The same has been true of the 4K screens I have used on Dell laptops. If you don't plan to run 4K at 4K with 200% scaling to make text readable, it's better to just avoid it altogether.
     
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    I'm weighing up if I want to get hold of the 3k panel for my personal system or not. I really don't mind the 1080p 120hz one.
     
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    To present an alternative point of view, if you really care about image quality, the 4K screen is great. Huge color gamut and PPI, and most programs scale just fine.
     
  43. Mr. Fox

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    I think either one would be totally great. Those that are hung up on the idea of having G-Sync won't be able to have that with the 1080p 120Hz screen. They would have to buy the previous generation 75Hz 1080p screen if they want G-Sync.
     
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    It wouldn't overclock because the eDP bandwidth is maxed out on the DM1 series.
    DM2/3 has a newer DP revision with the pascal cards and is (theoretically) able to output 4K 120Hz.

    It isn't meant for gaming, it's targeted at mobile creative people who need something other than a TN panel.


    The AUO panel is probably the best looking screen on a laptop to date. Color accuracy is spot on, contrast is excellent, and the Adobe RGB coverage is near 99%.


    Personally with the DM3 I would opt for a FHD or 1440p panel with similar color quality as the AUO 4K, but that's not available.
     
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    Which with a 1080/1070 is a bit pointless really for the moment.
     
  46. Q937

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    It won't overclock in the DM3 either.
     
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    Thanks for clarifying that. I wondered how that would turn out.
     
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    So therein lies the conundrum. An IPS 120 Hz screen not only wouldn't be G-Sync compatible, but it also would never have a sufficiently low response time to allow the high refresh rate to shine (at the same time we don't yet have word about how the colour reproduction). The 4K looks great but won't quite OC. The 3K looks to be the best of both worlds, but viewing angles, colour reproduction etc. have not been fully assessed if I'm not wrong. I'd be very very glad if anyone can point me to any reviews of the AUO 120 Hz IPS (FHD) and TN (QHD) panels.

    edit: I don't absolutely need G-Sync tbh, although G-Sync makes sense if you have high refresh rates.

    Hadriel
     
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    Doesn't the 120Hz TN screen used in the current-gen MSI laptops have G-Sync?
     
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    Yes, the MSI one does have g-sync.

    I've got the "old" 75hz ips g-sync OCd to 100hz and is good enough for me for now. 100hz 1080p is a good match for mt gtx1070 on ultra.

    I guess you could always buy this one and upgrade in some months when all the options are avaiable and proper reviewd.
     
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