*** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

You will get the colour shifting at an angle, even my Asus Swift external high quality TN panel does that. You have to sweet spot it.

 

That's pretty much the inevitable downside. But then, we're talking a laptop here. You have the screen right in front of your face, and adjusting it is a matter of seconds. Couple that with an external 4K high-end IPS screen, and you have the best out of two worlds. At least until technology has come far enough to make TN screens fully obsolete.

 

If only graphic design would had meant staying in one place xD

Unfortunately, a designer tends to move around a lot, especially while drawing, color shifting is a pretty bad problem.

Should be the best display for hardcore gamers though



On P775 there is less complaining about temps and noise than on P870... which is strange.

For everyday usage, will 4.2 vs 4.0 GHz provide any real difference ? After benching, I might want to leave it at a sweet spot.. Or 4.2 is totally safe for 6700K ?

 

The P870 has to deal with a lot more heat.

I am running 4.4ghz to keep both 1080s fed during every day gaming with an under volt. For a single GPU you should be fine.

 

Just looking at the specification, 120hz FHD looks alot better but
not many games at highest graphic settings will run at that frequency.

FPS of world of warcraft with my p775dm3([email protected], ram@3000, gtx1080@stock) with minimal addons even drops to 40s while playing 1080p.

Minimal ghost is good though.

 

I'm running at 4.6GHz as my daily driver without any issues.

::iunlock::

 

WoW will never in its lifetime run well . But for fast-paced FPS games, this is the thermonuclear tits. CS:GO, the new DOOM and upcoming Quake Champions; not to mention racing games, and generally anything that emphasises speed over visual flourish.

 

Anyone who took out the keyboard knows if it is safe to not have the keyboard screw screwed in at all, to escape the need of taking out the heatsinks when you need to change SSD and RAM under keyboard?

 

I've taken out my keyboard from my current laptop before, and suffice to say it will work, just that it'd be wobbly and makes for a poorer typing experience (duh!). And maybe don't turn your laptop upside down with the lid open... that connector is fairly fragile, so just in case.

Hadriel

 

It won't stay in place without the screws?

Can I put the screws in place without removing the heatsinks?

 

The magnets that hold the keyboard in place is quite strong. There shouldn't be a problem to use the machine 24/7 without the kb screw. But always better with everything on place. I remember @Mr. Fox while testing the Sky X9 used the machine without this keyboard screw in place. It is not possible to loosen this screw or put it back again with the heatsink in place for 775DM2/3.

 

That one image looks awfully creepy in high resoltuion...

I regret posting it ...






By the way...

If the keyboard has good magnets underneath, then why was the screw needed in the first place?

I kind of am having a hard time with this because I don't want to repaste nor to take the heatsink out, but I think that I'll get the laptop without the keyboard screwed in for this, so that I can play with the RAM underneath the keyboard and to add a M.2 SSD later on.

 

Edit: Disregard.

 

That game may be a bad example. It's a very poorly optimized game that is known not to work well with current drivers on the gtx 1080. I can say that I'm expecting that when my p775dm3 comes in, I should be able to hit over 100 fps on every game..

 

All hardware in computers is normally mounted with screws or glue
Maybe you should look after a ok small data tech shop where you live who can help you out if needed. But Clevo machines is easy to maintain. Probably one of the easiest machines you can find. + the forum will help you out if you need help with your machine Don't take the sorrows in advance bro

 

Plus the fact that when everything maxed out ingame the engine struggles a lot, the view distance improvement pushed the engine over the edge. So i keep the options on the bottom left everything at 6 which used to be the old ultra + the new softshadows can eat a lot of fps on lower end GPUs. I noticed Liquid Details seems to eat quite some fps too since 7.x .

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk

 

I've noticed a minor issue with my P775. I'm wondering if you guys have the same thing.
When there's a longer break for the speakers to not play any audio, and then something plays I can hear a subtle popping sound from the speakers.
This occurs pretty much always when the speakers have any longer break from playing any audio.

 

Those are generally protection relays put in place on amp circuits, but something like this can happen from software errors or bugs.

We need to file a ticket and ask if this behavior is normal

 

Maybe that game is a bad example. How about overwatch? That game wont keep hitting 100fps with highest graphic options too.
Not a game but Firestrike FHD, this doens't hit 100fps all the time.
What is a good example?

 

Are you using anit aliasing? Or just post processing. If it's smaa or fxaa Id be surprised to have frame that consistently low. I dont use regular anti aliasing and I can imagine it would greatly affect fps

 

Yes I use AA. I love AA
The frame isn't that bad. It's normally over 60 but sometimes it drops to 40s during WOW.
I am just saying that not all the game will be benefited by 120hz.
FHD gsync IPS panel can be OCed easily to >90.
That being said, if the response time is more important then TN 120hz would be better.
But just frequency itself wouldn't be that much different since OCing is possible.

 

After many hours of looking into this, here is the solution to open the OC CPU RAM app in the control center.
It seems that if you install Windows in some languages it wont work, here is a guide on how to fix this:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-control-center-oc-cpu-ram-app-not-working-read.796478/

 

I have this with my Alienware (All Alienware 17's are effected dunno about older machines, maybe 18 also does exhibit this, It's the nature of the EC controller) when I use a specific EC to monitor and doesn't happen like in your case but when I open the HWinfo fan control it does for a ms and sometimes through the earphone jack causing buzzing not a major issue since doesn't happen when I play any Audio or Video content, But there's no DPC latency whatsoever and sometimes that might cause this imo, Check for DPC latency using Latencymon for Win8 and up or the tool DPClatencychecker for Win7 and try to figure out what's the cause sometimes a messed up driver or old driver might also cause this.

Yeah also as Goergel said start a ticket if you are not satisfied.

 

Can anyone confirm or deny the P775DM3 makes this much noise when gaming? or is this just manual 100%? if not, Can anyone make a quick video of the p775DM3 noise while gaming?

 

Depends on the game. Fully maxxed out Witcher 3 is basically the same as Fn+1. Games that don't tax it as much (WoW, Dota 2), or with lower settings, are considerably quieter, down to pretty close to silent.

 

It sounds louder than it really is than the video. I'll make a new one while gaming...Even with F1 Fan on, the db at head level is around 52-55db's

 

anyone having any problems with their CPU settings changing themselves using Clevo's cpu software that comes with the Control Centre?

 

Its just a bit all over the shop. I did most of my tweaking in the bios. I use the oc software for the voltage only.

Its good enough to play around with but once you have a solid system make it stick in the BIOS.

 

Fan noise is just as much as any gaming laptop I heard.

I mean with fans at absolute max, it's a bit noisier than my Acer was in full fans, but not that much noisier. And those fans push much more air than my acer fans did. Fans will never spin that much naturally, but will spin on almost anything if set to. For example, when installing something, it will be 3x times faster than on an 4710hq, but fans for cpu spin at max rotation while installing.

If browsing or light activities, it's dead silent.

@Phoenix I remember you had a problem where fans for P870 would randomly spin for you. That is caused by many things in windows, like onedrive, or defender or antivir, or windows peeking into your files, but if nothing runs, the fans don't spin.

 

My apps and usage is always the same. XTU was causing the random spin up. Uninstalling XTU won't help, only a full format and an NVRAM reset will solve this

 

Seeing that the software haven't been updated in a long time, I wouldn't doubt the issues it causes

 

Georgel..you haven't even ordered one of these machines. How do you know the sound of the fans compared to other gaming laptops? From that video iunlock put up?
Unless I missed something and you ordered and received one already.

 

Have the chance to truly test one. (My entire battery of tests)

I still plan to buy one ^_^.

Also, the audio is extremely underrated on this laptop. Coming from audiophile grade products here. The speakers are okay-ish, while the headphone out, with a little bit of playing around in CC and settings is a really good one. The DAC + AMP pairing is really good, and if CC is running it adjusts the sound to the impedance of the headphones.

 

I Should be receiving it in about 10 days, it is getting sent to AZ, and from there i will either pick it up or have it sent to CA, no sales tax... Another reason why HIDevolution is awesome.

 

Noise is NOT a problem when coming from other laptops. I mean it.

It is noisier than any laptop I heard, but by a hair. It is not noisy by itself. And while it's not doing something, it is more silent than a rock. At least it's noise levels are around the same level as the noise floor as the building I'm in, which means that even if it's around 40db, if the noise floor is around the same levels I can't hear a bit of noise ^_^.

Really nice laptop.

Still no idea what the fingerprint scanner is and how to use it.

All in all, gsync is actually good. First time running madVR I had a shock. In optimus laptopys, frames jump from frame to frame, this time it was smooth. and guess what, the presenting times were actually as good as I thought they would be, mostly under 0.20 ms...

It is heavy, heavy heavy. No problems there, just saying.

The power supply. From pictures, it looks really small compared to what you get. This won't ever be a problem, just stating things.

Internet is really good.

It's one of the snappiest computer / laptops I had ever touched.

One question that I have is: Does Gsync create dead pixels faster? And what are the rates of dead pixel apparition on this laptop?

 

Did you test a standard 60 Hz IPS screen, or the 120 Hz IPS screen? What kind of light bleeding do you observe? And also, how wobbly is the screen (e.g. when typing)?

Hadriel

 

Yeah I think I'll set it all in bios and remove the CCC

 

75 Hz.

Screen is very stable for me. More stable than my Acer was and Acer was very stable.

 

Touchpad is heaven on this one. As good as Predator Touchad is.

 

Gonna try OCing the screen? =P 90-100 Hz vs 120 Hz screen upgrade is worthy for some people to consider (I probably will still do 120...)

Hadriel

 

Despite having good experiences with Mythlogic in the past, I'm pretty unimpressed with them at the moment.

I received my laptop last Tuesday, but it was missing the battery, so I let them know that it was missing. They apologized and said they'd send one to me. I waited for a week, then pinged them again today to see what the status of it is, and they let me know that they boxed it up, but forgot to mail it, and say they'll get it right out to me. I say thanks and let them know that getting it quickly to me would be great.

So now I just got a shipping notification that I have an incoming package...and they mailed it UPS Ground. So it's going to take almost another week to get to me. I paid a lot for this laptop, and also paid for 3 day shipping when I ordered it, so at the very least I would expect them to ship me the battery they forgot to ship to me with the level of shipping that I've paid for. In all honesty, since it's their initial screwup and they also forgot to mail it for almost a week, I'd really think they should 2nd-day or next-day it to me.

I also just tried calling them (during their advertised business hours) and no one picked up.

So yeah, pretty unimpressed right now.

edit: Got an email from Josh from Mythlogic apologizing for the screwup, and he agreed that they should have shipped it out more quickly (I guess the employee responsible got an earful). Unfortunately since it's already shipped, they can't make it get here any faster. So while I'm still annoyed, it's nice to know that they are at least somewhat responsive.

 

Is anyone familiar with the differences between the desktop CPUs available for these notebooks: i7 6700K, i7 6700, and i5 6500K? I'm looking to replace my current Sager DTR that lasts 4 hours on battery and this is my first experience with desktop CPUs in notebooks. I know these P7xx's will typically last 2 hours with normal use, but I'm curious if there are any setups that can extend this to 3-4 hours when needed.

1. How do these CPUs compare in performance with actual desktops? Is it the same performance with ideal cooling? Is it reasonable to expect at least 50% more performance over laptop CPUs from personal experience switching between laptop and desktop for CPU-heavy work?
2. Would the i5 6500K lengthen battery life over the i7 6700K? Despite having the same TDP, I assume it tends to run cooler under load which might make this my choice given its comparable single-core performance, but better battery life would also be nice.
3. If the i5 wouldn't help here, would the i7 6700 improve battery life and/or thermals?
4. Is there any way to use the integrated graphics (Optimus, switching in BIOS, etc.)? If so, how much does this help with battery life?

Thanks for answers/experience with any and all of the above questions!

 

Clevo P670 maybe ?

On 6700K P775, performance of CPU only is 2-3 times of that of 4710hq on laptops. Which was already a very good performance

You can probably live with a 6700hq if you need battery life.

 

Hey, thanks for the suggestion! I'm considering the P6xx models as well but many things about the P750 and P770, battery life aside, suit me better like the CPU performance, chassis, cooling, removable battery, etc. And I can live with a 2 hour battery, it's not make or break, but I'd like to configure a notebook to be suit my usage better.

 

Sure thing ^_^

A P77X or P87X won't get you much battery life, but performance is through the roof with them!

 

You can undervolt. I am guessing it should scale fairly well. And remember, if you are idling, your CPU hogs a lot less.
You can always turn off HT if you dont want it on the 6700k if you need max battery life.

However, I do not recommend this device for battery life.

 

Hi folks,
I'm considering p775dm3 with the 4k panel option.
Has anyone had a chance to play with the 4k panel on this one?
My first 4k notebook experience with a different vendor was pretty poor in part due to very noticeable backlight bleeding, and it's prevalent in reviews.

[thinking p775dm3 + 4K display + 6700K CPU + 1070 GPU + Samsung 950Pro 512M SSD. Should be able to game at 4K with no antialiasing needed and obviously watch 4k content.]

 

Maybe its just me, but I think for a smooth experience a single GTX 1080 is not always enough for 4k, let alone a GTX 1070...hey, but if its resolution which is important for you and you are willing to downgrade the graphics to stay above 50 FPS (with G-Sync and 60 FPS without G-Sync), then go for it.

 

Just a nice, lazy method to skip entering passwords .