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Was that stock core speed? That Physics score seems very high for 4ghz compared to the multiple runs that I've done.

Cracking result though

 

Perfectly stock I was seeing upper-90s on my CPU (gulp!) with a Firestrike run, did a -150MV change, now I'm seeing a peak of 76C.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10227131

 

Have you t

Have you tried the oc profile with the fans? Makes a huge difference.

 

Yeah, I can get it cooler if I really blast the fans, but I'm trying for a balance of noise and performance. In Firestrike it peaks at ~60db (using the UltimateEars DB meter app on my iPhone) right at my head location. I've heard worse, but it's still pretty loud under full load.

For games that don't really stress it too badly like Dota or WoW, it's really quiet, which is awesome.

This is the app I'm using for measuring noise:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ue-spl/id332300068?mt=8

 

Here is my dB recorded from the front of the 775:



And from the back:



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That undervolt is extremely high. Did you make sure it is stable?

 

Did the high CPU temps during firestrike not get noted during QA or do Myth presume you basically have to undervolt the CPU?

 

Yes it is very stable. I had OCCT running the entire time while doing other tasks. There's nothing that will get past OCCT for CPU stability It's the real deal.

I've also rendered a video and afterwards played a few rounds of KF2. I was quite surprised myself.

 

Here's another run at 4.2



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That's more normal so I'm guessing your previous score was actually an overclock too (Same physics score) rather than vanilla with max fans?

Why is it saying invalid on yours? Are you using a beta driver?

 

Yikes!

That thing is a hair dryer...

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Despite the db's the sound is a lot softer tone than a hair dryer from my observation. If that makes sense.

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Could you do a video about it? That would be great

My main concern about this laptop is that the fan noise could be somewhat intrusive while gaming. Also, temps on the cpu are a lottery...

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I've actually just recorded one last night. Let me upload it to YouTube and I'll post a link.

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Looking forward to it!

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That is exacly my doubt about this machine. I've heard the p670-rg (with the 1070) and is too loud for me. I don't know if this is also too loud...

 

Here you go Enjoy...



It sounds worse in the video than it really is. Most compare it to a blow dryer, but the fan noises is a lot softer than a typical blow dryer.

 

Fwiw it never gets that loud on overclock.

 

"It sounds worse in the video than it really is."

 

Well... you could always have a hair dryer next to you and turn it on as a basis of comparison... but thanks for the vid it makes sense to me.

Hadriel

 

It doesn't whistle, that's good enough for me. I can tolerate loud fan noise as long as it is low-pitched.

 

Those are max fans? Do you need to keep them at max to have the cpu under 80c? Damn...

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Sounds like mine did, which was noticeably louder than my P770ZM.

 

I keep the fans on Max (F1) when I'm rendering, but it seems to be doing fine with my -225mv Under Volt on both the Core and Cache. I have screen shots of it posted up in a thread.

I have it on F1 about 99% of the time due to work (rendering/encoding) and gaming. The sound of power haha.

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Ok... I have to ask a noob question:
What the f is F1 Fan?

EDIT: Nvm, i just noticed iunlock's reply. It is fans set to max.

 

Yeah fans set to max is really ridiculously loud.

It definitely feels like undervolting the CPU is basically required, but works really well and keeps temps nice and low. During Firestrike with everything staying under 80C it never got close to full fans, I just had them on automatic.

 

Could you post the emission noise of fans on auto? Also, does it get uncomfortably hot the keyboard or the notebook?

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I had them set to auto on my previous Firestrike test -- it varied betwen 55db and 60db. Full fans is like 75db!

The keyboard under full CPU (running some OCCT tests now to find my lowest perfectly stable undervolt) is slightly warm. Enough that you notice it, but not much warmer than that, and I certainly wouldn't call it hot or uncomfortable at all. I'll use my temperature gun when I get home from work tonight to get actual values.

 

In case If you didn't knew this, some insight on the new Clevo fans - 870dm3 Fan mod, wip (GT62 5v vs 12v ADDA fans) Also this

 

Oh man. Modifications like that...if they're needed, that's crazy. A neat proof of concept, but that illustrates how much better the cooling needs to be (or at least, have higher airflow/quieter fans).

My last question for a bit, will we be able to use next year's gpu's in these, or will the design change due to HBM? I've heard the occasional rumour that this gpu card design is going to last a while so as not to disenfranchise users like the last model (in my case a p770dm-g) did.

 

I run a custom cooled U3 Plus with 3x Vardar 2200RPM fans and they are so soft on ears even with the laptop's fans maxed because of real smooth high quality bearings. From the videos of the new ADDA fans they seem not so-good bearings or the design...Never noticed them In person, MSI turbo fans are also loud but the db comparison is not enough for me, Real-time in person experience might show much difference in perceiving things, I'm not blaming the 12v here or the RPM they should have aimed for the more robust fans here honestly, when we are dropping a huge lump of cash for the beasts they should be properly made. Still that's not major issue I presume, I see the Unified heatsink design a step-back with Pascal being so hot and sensitive to temperature in nature.


Honestly no Idea at all with the MXM fiasco, but the thing is this custom MXM format is going to stay here. The reason we have uncertainty is due to the HBM being deployed causing all those vRAM modules and the VRMs, power phases, MOSFETs might be changed, Notice the Vapor chamber on the DM3 unit ? They have these shims type positions for proper contact and now imagine them all go in next MXM revision, DOOMed old Massive expensive HS !! Also changing the heatsink in a newer version might also affect due to alignment/fit issues are expected..

The 870DM is already suffering from lack of Heatsinks for the modified MXMs even the MSI ones though they fit the problem is with heatsink (Due to multitude of reasons - new Clevo cards screw alignment, MXM size, MSI core positions with 1080 beefy version with power connector, Power pins, EC mods needing to make them work. SO many !!). We are out of options here want MXM then this path else BGA there's the obv HEDT route. If AMD pulls it off we might have Nvidia coming back, too highly unlikely but ray of hope..., btw AMD's RX480's out with MXM 3.0b format but that's way under-powered for it's TDP/perf ratio. Only Vega can be the choice here. So much of ambiguity, I'd say this is a gamble and the upper hand always wins.

Clevo should have employed the Alienware M18xR1-R2 type design allowing the same chassis almost identical to use parts across the releases making user serviceability breeze, But Alienware Itself is dead now & Clevo has failed to do so with the similar designed 870DM-DM3 / 7xxZM/DM to 75x-77xDM2/3, such a bad move !

I feel this is a bad time for us NB enthusiasts / power users, can't help. We have to choose the best of the options & It's Clevo only with MSI being semi-BGA strapped to hell.

Apologies for the OT, Excuse me for the Rant, but I'm afraid that's the truth...

EDIT : Forgot to add this, Prema mod. Without that Clevo is nothing, Glad to have him here, Because of that sole reason people are really Interested in purchasing these DTRs.

 

Yeesh. Much as I'm looking forward to assembling and optimising my machine, I'm not that obsessed . Some undervoltery, a few drops of kool-aid, and I'll be satisfied. I hope.

 

Yes, I was hoping that an undervoltaged would be enough to have the sound under control. But it seems excessive... can anyone post a video of fans on auto and gaming?

Thanks!

 

Do you have games you're interested in? I can do dB readings in Dota 2 and WoW, but both of those are very quiet/cool.

 

This is something bad that I'm going to say,...

But if undervolting is needed either way, doesn't this mean that everyone who got a 6700 non K is screwed by bad temps and are doing much worse even though they wanted to do better with fixed CPUs?

Or only the K series have an overvolt by default?

About fans, I've got a lenovo G500 laptop w i3 3rd gen BGA and AMD 8xxxM GPU. For one thing, this thing is actually very loud compared to my Acer. It doesn't whine, but it makes noise even when doing nothing.

 

Something harder like witcher 3, or firestrike on auto.

 

I thought you could undervolt for non-K CPUs, but you can't OC them. Might be wrong... but that's what I gathered from lurking.

Hadriel

 

"Gathered from lurking"

Lol, sounds exactly like me!

 

You can undervolt yes just like the 6700hq.

 

What is the best tool to undervolt, to overclock and to do all tweaking related work?

And I mean the absolute best tool or combination of tools that are safe?

 

Use the clevo CPU oc tool if you like. Any undervolt puts the data on your system at greater risk.

 

Man, this waiting is killing me. It's been two weeks since my order at Eurocom. The machine's been officially released for a week now.
I want it! At least I didn't sell my current laptop yet ( made that mistake before)

Do most of you guys have yours yet?

 

I can't live with a weak system, I'll just make a lot of testing after going for an undervolt.

Let me just live with -100mv and I think I'll be fine ^_^

BTW, on the same thinking wouldn't adding a 100mv increase the safety of data?

With all seriousness, don't take me wrongly, I like to joke around, but I'm actually scared of what can happen and I'm undecided whether if to use undervolting or not and I'm really scared of everything related to a Clevo machine.... I beging to think that I should reconsider what machine I should get for my actually sensitive work... The problem is that no other machine has the same performance and everything else would really slow down my work...

 

Didnt you say in earlier posts you are upgrading from a 860m?

 

Yes. i7-4710hq + 860m

I need something to be really faster, but on CPU too since a lot of the software I use relies on CPU

 

Thought you had found the right machine for your use. i7 BGA will hamper your productivity if you really need the processing power. Then become BGA complete wrong choice for you bro. P870DM2/3 or P775Dm2/3. Both can have the unlocked 6700K. Final / finish!! Overclocking is the cherry on top. Good luck. Don't look back!!

 

Just a quick shoutout, anyone having issues with external displays on this laptop? On the NP8153 we are having an issue with the ACPI driver going nuts after you plug in an external display, just wondering if that is the same case here or not? Thanks!

What to look for:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...s-owners-lounge.795090/page-188#post-10346117

Also are the latest nvidia drivers breaking gysnc on this laptop? they do on the NP8153. I have to stick with the clevo drivers for it to keep working.

 

I use Throttle Stop for my under volting.

So far my max is -225mv on both Core and cache. The temps are incredible with F1 Fan ON. Hope you don't mind fan noise

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Thanks for the info! I'd have some issues on my external monitor...hmm...I'll report back with any findings.

Cheers

 

The whole conversation about undervolting being dangerous to data is making me strangely uncomfortable.

Maybe I won't need to undervolt at all, silicon lotterry might be friendly when I get a P775!