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    *** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. GWW1

    GWW1 Notebook Guru

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    As far as I know you can't change the fan profile in the bios and have to use the clevo control centre. Using the overclock fan profile in there and undervolting cpu I am getting around 75 degrres cpu and 80 degrees gpu on a firestrike run with the demo at the start. So Tony's GPU temps are very impressive indeed!
     
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    Ahh I assumed it was in the bios, that's even easier then :)
     
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    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Much better have fan profile adjustment in bios, then you can deactivate/uninstall Clevo CC :cool: Not everyone wants Bloatware In their computer!!
     
  4. Scotster

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    Agreed, I would rather do all the OC tuning in there too but I guess we will need to wait and see what Clevo come up with.
     
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    Mine should be getting here Wednesday!

    I'll be doing some noise tests, as well as CPU/GPU/vent/keyboard heat measurements. I'll do before/after undervolting too.
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

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    The BIOS does not control the fan speed but the EC does, it's not quite so simple to have controls through the BIOS.
     
  7. Scotster

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    12 hours and counting :D
     
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  9. Scotster

    Scotster Notebook Consultant

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    Vanilla run....

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14899460

    Temps hit 97C on the CPU 78C on the GPU.

    I then did the same run with fans at max....

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14899620

    Temps hit 84C max on the CPU and 70C on the GPU.

    I've did quite a few different benches. I'll post results once I'm finished playing. I'm now going to have a crack at installing Win7.

    BTW, the 1080p screen is absolutely stunning.
     
  10. knibbler

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    I'm picking up mine sometime this week. It's the 4k 60hz version. I know that panel didn't overclock past 64hz usually with the P775DM1&2. But the GTX 1080 has displayport 1.3 and does support a higher refresh rate.
    So what it comes down to is does the edp on the card support 120hz to an integrated panel as well. ....and was it always a limitation of the panel because technically there should have been a little more bandwidth available on the displayport 1.2 anyway.

    Needless to say, first thing I'm doing is overlclocking that 4k screen and hoping for 75 - 80hz. I'll be sure to post results here for those that may be interested.
     
  11. Q937

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    If it's the AUO, you're not going to see over 63Hz.
     
  12. EmberV

    EmberV Notebook Evangelist

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    Just received my barebones EVOC P750DM2-G this morning and transferred the parts over from my EVOC P750DM-G with no issues. Also took the time to delid my Core i5-6600K and apply Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra. Will be installing Windows 7 later today.
     
  13. knibbler

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    Like I said....I realize that's going to be the popular opinion of those who have tried it on a displayport 1.2 GTX 980/980m/970m.

    I'm still hoping
     
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  14. Q937

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    First of all, I have one on my P870DM3. 63Hz. Second, if the panel only supports the DP1.2 protocol, no GPU is going to be able to drive it faster than that anyways.
     
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    You're ruining my day :oops:
     
  16. knibbler

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    I had a 4K monitor once and as I remember the 60hz refresh seemed a little smoother at 2160p rather than at 1080p. Something to do with so many pixels. Do you find this to be the case?
     
  17. Scotster

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    CPU is letting it down in the win7 performance index :D
     

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    I never noticed anything like that, but I rarely if ever drop down to 1080.
     
  19. Meaker@Sager

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    The display itself still has to drive all those pixels individually even if you turn the resolution down of course.
     
  20. knibbler

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    Yes, I'm not trying to get a higher refresh at lower resolutions on a 4k screen. I know they stay at the same hz , I went through a few monitors before I learned this :(
    I guess if what Q937 says is true for all AUO 4k panels and Eurocom doesn't somehow play with things abit..then I'll be stuck at 63hz.

    G at Eurocom had unofficially suggested that 75 hz should be attainable
     
  21. Q937

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    It's possible they know something we don't, but if it's the B173ZAN01.0 I don't believe you'll see any improvement.
     
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    Well each Hz requires 4 times as many more pixels than 1080p. So a 3hz is the same increase in bandwidth/controller load as a 12Hz on a 1080p panel.
     
  23. Scotster

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    I can't get XTU to install, any pointers? I tried removing the control panel but it says that it can't get permission.
     
  24. GWW1

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    Does anyone know of a way to control what the gpu does when on battery power? It behaves oddly, I am guessing because of power limits and gives very inconsistant framerates. I tried limiting fps using battery saver in geforce experience which helps by not letting the gpu try so hard but seems to limit framerate everywhere not just in games and makes stuff like internet browsing less smooth which annoys me.

    I would just like to make it so memory speed doesn't get reduced and core clock can be set to a maximum of 1400mhz or so.
     
  25. EmberV

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    Ran some Heaven benchmark at stock clocks. This is a P750DM2-G with a delidded i5-6600K and a GTX 1070.
    [​IMG]
     
  26. Tony Palmer

    Tony Palmer Notebook Evangelist

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    If you don't mind doing it I would check your thermal paste job mine was very bad. Noticed since switching paste and resetting computer to stock that heats are higher on cpu. It definitely needs the undervolt to stay cooler. I'm going to reinstall clevo control centre and undervolt again. With the low temps on my gpu I may oc it a little see what I can get out of it.
     
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    i tried everything..
    the only thing that worked was a fresh install of windows 10.
     
  28. Benmaui

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    I was under the impression XTU came in conflict with Clevo software for some reason and was to be avoided, and that Throttlestop was better in that regard, also curious as I will be receiving my P775DM3 with 120hz gsync screen in the coming weeks, and I'll need to undervolt the CPU .
    Getting mine through a Prema partner, should I do that via the Bios or should I use Throttlestop to undervolt?
     
  29. Scotster

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    I managed to get XTU running after a reinstall as suggested. Strange error. Anyway, after LOTS of playing I've decided to stick with Windows 10. I hate the telemetry and faffing required to sort it out but I love the fact that it has DX12 and has some sweet visuals around the OS.

    I did a re-paste but it wasn't actually that bad. I used AS5 as I prefer it to MX-4. I've got some Extreme coming soon to play around with. Will be nice to compare.

    Here is the results of my messing around....

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14924474

    I make that 4th place so it seems to be a good-un.

    This is it in "daily" mode...

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14924599

    Still not to be sneezed at.

    The GPU is ridiculous though. It doesn't crack 65 DegC!!! There is definitely room to increase the voltage and eek a little more out of the chip. That's not for my pockets to play with though :D

    Final OC.png
     
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    Almost forgot..... check out the temps in "daily" mode when considering the score :D

    1st OC.png
     
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    Those temps are really good considering all the power that is packed into the laptop :cool:

    Has anyone done any dB sound level measurements of this thing while gaming? I'm thinking of replacing my incredibly loud (high pitched fan) Dell Precision M6800 and this machine is one of the contenders..
     
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    Just curious, what parts come in a bare bones?
     
  33. Scotster

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    I can do a DB level if you want, it would only be my phone though.... not sure if they are even to be taken with a pinch of salt? I don't find it any louder than an AW 17 R3 if that helps? I use it in OC fan mode, it seems to work well. The fan curve could be perfected though. The stock fan profile is useless.
     
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    @Entionz no CPU, no RAM, no SSDs/HDDs. Everything else is there.
     
  35. GWW1

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    I have some Gelid Extreme coming tomorrow for a repaste, I can only assume PCS did a shocker of a job on the gpu because I get low 80s under full gpu load.
    I am more than happy with my cpu temps with the undervolt I have and overclock fan profile so if I can get my gpu temps to similar to yours I will be over the moon!
     
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    I'll do some after I get mine on Wednesday. Like Scotster, they'll just be with an iPhone too, but at least you can probably download the same app and do an apples-to-apples comparison with whatever laptop you have.
     
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  37. Tony Palmer

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    did you undervolt at all? how much oc on the gpu on the first run and how much oc on the cpu on the runs whevener I run 3dmark my cpu never gets near that
     
  38. Scotster

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    The big run was a 170 OC on the GPU, +50 overvolt on the CPU.

    The everyday one is no OC on the GPU with -100mv undervolt on the CPU.

    I've set the overclock at 4.2 in the BIOS. Everything else was done on the stock OC software. I haven't used XTU at all.
     
  39. Tony Palmer

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    how did you setup that overclock in bios?
     
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    Advanced then Overclocking I think it is in the menu. It's fairly obvious once in the "Advanecd" bit, I think it's the bottom option. I then set the frequency multipliers all to 42. I couldn't figure out how to set the voltage to a minus figure so I just left it at zero and undervolted it in the stock OC program.
     
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    How are you finding the nachine? I'm still working on a detailed review for pcs. Hope it helps people interested in these machines because there is very little info around on them. I'll be oc'ing in bios but keeping the thunderbolt. My gpu is so cool I'm considering a few fire strike runs to see scores with an oc
     
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    I'm loving it. Pretty much what I expected. My only real disappointment is the length of the cable for the powerpack. I'm struggling to hold it in a good position that doesn't put pressure on the plug.

    Keeping the thunderbolt?

    I've just posted up a little review on PCS. Feel free to chime in :)
     
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    If you force CPU and gpu clocks to minimum on battery, what time remaining does the battery applet give?
     
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    I set the CPU to 1ghz. It's painful lol. Screen is on minimum and the battery meter reckons 2hrs 31mins @98%.
     
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    Turned it all back to max other than the screen and it's not changed. I guess that's down to the CPU being adaptive. CPU defaults to 2.3ghz on battery.
     
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    I like how in the pictures I've seen the power port looks to be lower than the 770DM. I feel that lower puts less stress on the connection. I still have my spare 330v psu from my GT80 so it'll be great to have one on each floor of the house. Draggin that thing around really spoils the fun of a desktop replacement
     
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    A spare is always useful even for smaller bricks :)
     
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    keeping the under-volt lol stupid fat fingers! I'm glad so many people have the same machine as me from the same supplier makes it easier finding solutions for the little problems. I'm really glad I took the time to look inside myself, re-paste and re-test. This machine just needs a little tweaking and as we've seen the power just makes it an amazing laptop.
     
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    @Donald@HIDevolution Are the new 3K 120hz G-sync monitors you announced for the P870DM2/3 be available for the P755DM2/3?
     
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    I have just repasted with Gelid Extreme and the results are very good! I have been trying various benchmarks and games with max load on cpu and gpu and I can't get the gpu above 77 degrees or the cpu above 78 degrees. This is with -110mv on the cpu, overclock fan profile and stock clocks. I did a quick firestrike run with +150mhz gpu and 4.2ghz all cores cpu and got 17600. As it is only a short test the cpu and gpu both stayed below the above max temps.

    Really really happy with this laptop! Gpu temps above 80 degrees was the only thing that was annoying me before the repaste.

    I think the main reason for the gpu temperature drop is probably because when I removed the cooler I found one of the 4 gpu block screws was less than finger tight, the others were quite loose too but the cpu screws were like Jeff Capes had done them up.
     
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