*** Official Clevo P775DM2/3(-G)/P75xDM2(-G) (Sager NP9152/NP9172) WINGMAN 2.0/BATMAN 3.0 Lounge ***

16500 overall score? 21000 is the graphics score only! if its overall score it seems right.

 

I know about the specs, and it was my first choice, but these reports are making me doubt.

I dont really have a way to listen to it, i'm from alentejo. I'll have to trust the reports I read around here. Lets see. Maybe you still can get a client for Obsidian.

Do you already know about the screen? Is the 120hz g-sync avaiable? Is it ips class?

 

Ok i really need to add this info in this thread or i will just feel bad.

Some posts ago i posted some information about the 6700K throttling, and according to the messages and emails im getting, some people took that and now think that this model sucks, let me just give you my opinion, and read this with a fair amount of humor, since im trying to be somewhat humorous while writing it.

- what i said is that STOCK voltages are not good for the 6700K.
- there are just a small amount of laptops in the world that allow a 6700K
- if you are buying a 6700K i´m sorry but it makes no sense that you don´t know, and you don´t want to tune the CPU
- NEVER compare any other model of any brand with the P775DM unless you are talking about a model who ALSO supports a Desktop CPU and up to GTX 1080, if you are talking mobile CPU and GTX 1070 you should move on to the P650 / P670 thread, that is your place ("Step aside Junior"). Btw, the P6 series does have a impressive cooling capability, almost scary if you ask me, doubt anything beats it when it comes to size/power/cooling ratios.

Now moving on, if a end user buying a 6700K powered laptop is incapable of doing a voltage offset tune and even manage to get some good OC juice out of this CPU, well... if you cant do that, the K is not for you, leave it to the big boys

Now my point was not that this is a BAD laptop, it is not, my point was quite simple, it is my opinion that stock voltages should be in ranges that the CPU would perform at 100% and also not throttle. My statement was towards CLEVO, i don´t know much about building a BIOS (i´m not prema) but this does not sound hard to me, a simple voltage offset fixes everything, -110 you get a 6700K and a GTX 1080 both at a max temperature of around 80ºC with the ULTRA silent fan profile called "Automatic" (yes this profile is quiet, loudness will only come if you select OVERCLOCK which you don´t even need if you tune voltage), and im talking about temperatures with un-delidded CPUs, if you get a delidded one you get even lower.

I also posted that because i believe it is resellers job to warn clients about this and to offer them solutions, even if they have to do a remote connection to tune the CPU for the client, takes you 5m.

I´m finally able to talk with CLEVO directly (never had the chance before), and i´m finding them quite nice and easy to talk to (was not expecting this) so i´ll do my part and hopefully other shops will too and tell them to fix this anyway.

@Miguel Pereira - Yes i now decided to use my free time @ NBR since i was indeed banned from the only Portuguese forum that i visit. I don´t want to let that one go easy since you called that out. It actually makes me REALLY sad, i love my country and i love to help people, you have no idea how many guys from that forum came in to my shop and i did free repairs or did cost price parts, guys who bought @ other shops but they denied their warranty. You know how many hours i spent on that forum sharing information and helping everyone. But the truth is they have SUPER strict rules, they dont allow to link to a lot of stuff, they dont allow you to even write the name of a great deal of shops, everyone who asks for a suggestion about which laptop to buy can only get replies suggesting them to buy from forum sponsors (which i said i would pay them to become one, and i was denied). I´m always running around sometimes replying from my phone so i should have been more careful since rules are rules, but then again going from a powermember to a banned member without a warning first was shocking. But it´s life, i´m always trying to be the cool nice guy, yet sometimes you need to look at your market and maybe dedicate yourself to the ones who appreciate your work. It saddens me to say this but my own country is the least of my concerns at the moment, sad actually.


Ahhhh i feel lighter now, goood, back to work then!

 

I feel like I can fry an egg on my 750DM2 Nothing extreme but definitely in the low to mid 80's when playing at ultra settings and 100% usage. Pascal needs to literally chill lmao

 

It overclocks itself so it will do that, lower the clocks if you want it to chill a bit

 

Self-overclocking gpu's sound like the first step down a slippery slope that leads to self-replicating robots. #inb4skynet

I'm stoked, while I'm waiting for mine to get here I have a TB SSD on the way.

Chassis question, how taut are the hinges/is there any wobble? Is keyboard heat greater than, less than, or equal to the p770dm?

 

Is your GPU 1080?

 

have you try to overclock the 6820HK on the 1070 P670?

 

Thanks for sharing.

I agree, there should be a mandatory written test before anyone is even allowed to by a "K" chip. My gosh, the amount of ignorance....you're right, "step aside junior" and that applies to 99.9% of the gaming fan boys who are content with a stock system without tuning, repasting etc... just SMH...*face palm*

I'm sorry to hear about your struggles with your local forum. Sounds like major politics to me. What a shame...

Anyhow, I'm patiently waiting for my 775. Hope to receive it soon...let the games begin...

 

From all of the information I consumed on this thread, I have a bit of work to do when I buy the 775DM3 for my girlfriend. The question is who do I buy it from (originally it would have been HIDevolution but since I called and left a message with a couple of questions over a week and a half ago with no answer), I'll be out on the lookout.

 

Yikes.

 

Before screwing them, I would PM them or reach out directly @Ted@HIDevolution @Donald@HIDevolution. For sure they're "only" busy as heck now!

P.S.: Holy grail! @NBR plz fix that mess here with Xenforo. It becomes rather unbeareable now....

 

Perhaps they got really busy with current customers and their orders, which is possible and we did just pass a holiday weekend. It is still precarious I never received a call back but that just allows me to continue to seek out another deal.

 

I agree to a point. I am not badmouthing them at all. The presale customer service I got from Donald up to a week and a half ago personified amazing. However, as a customer, I shouldn't have to chase a company to do business with them...it should be the other way around.

 

Same here. As a customer, there is no excuse for a delay in a response, even a few days is a bit much, but a week and a half? Yikes. Did they have a, "will be back _____," notice on their site by any chance? That's really the only way I can see this as being excusable. This is 2016 for crying out loud, right? We have smart phones...emails can be answered back instantly. No excuses

Anyhow, how are the 775's coming along? Any other reports of cooler temps? BTW, there is a thread to post them so please do when you're able.

Cheers

 

I completely agree with this, I worry some people are being put off by reports of high temperature and noise. When I first got mine and ran a benchmark and saw 90 plus degrees on gpu and cpu I was worried. But as mentioned by John simply dropping the cpu voltage and choosing overclocked fan mode dropped them both to 80 degrees under full load. It is loud, perhaps twice as loud as my desktop (soon to be sold) with a 4790k and gtx 1080. But the performance is the same and it is a laptop - so the extra advantages make this a trade off well worth taking in my opinion.
I hope this helps some potential buyers.

 

These amazing (for the hardware and flexiblity, LGA/MXM) machines are not for the novice for sure. Seeing high temps right off the bat to some hard core enthusiasts mean, "Great! Let me tackle this challenge and get it tuned to where it should be..." However, as mentioned before, this does not discount the fact that these well equipped beasts have among the lowest quality control in the industry IMO. Seeing them up and personal it's just...sigh...we'll let's just say they have a long way to go, but the nice thing is that we can make it our own with our own touch and tweaks...function over form I get it, but having good looks, something nice to look at doesn't hurt either.

Clevo, just please get on with the program with your quality control, engineering and design. That's all...this is why I went with the 775 over the 870. IMO, I couldn't wake up to the old generic IBM thinkpad look of the 870. Just my opinion.

I'm looking forward to the temp challenge on the 6700K and 1080....can't wait...

 

Im happy to manage the temps, but my only worry is with the noise levels of the fans. This laptop will be my only gaming device and on my lap on the sofa next to the wife. My current 580m 2760QM can get noisy but i worry its going to be nothing compared to this laptop requiring overclocked fan profile

 

Hey there mate....the keywords there are, "...next to my wife..."

In that case, yes the fans are loud. There is no denying that....

Hopefully a more silent option becomes available, rather confirmed soon....

 

Just got an answer from Eurocom regarding my question if they will sell me a 120 hz screen or not:

My question is, can you sell me a 120 Hz screen for this laptop? If yes, how much do you ask for it?

*** these are $495 US - - lead time is around 2 weeks ***

Also, is the eDP cable used for the 60 Hz screen will work with the 120 Hz screen too or that also needs to be changed ?

*** You can use the existing edp cable ***

Also, is the 120 Hz screen which you are selling is the new screen with 5ms response time and is it G-Sync certified meaning that if I install it in my Clevo P775DM3-G laptop, will G-Sync work without any additional work (G-Sync is working with the currently used 60 Hz screen) ?

*** Is G-Sync - - response time is around 25 ms ***

So, not all 120 hz screens used for this Clevo model have 5ms response time ?!

 

Does anyone have a working link to the service manual for this model? There was one posted earlier in this thread, but it 404'ed out.

 

The price is not pretty indeed... but wait the response time is 25ms?? That's still... urrgh.

Hadriel

 

The exact panel depends on the builder, that's always been the case.

 

Msi gt73vr 120hz panel have a response time of 6-7ms and g-sync. What is the point of having 120hz and a response time of 25ms?

 

Also, does this refer to the 4K screen or the 1080P screen? I was under the impression that the 1080p 120hz screen was supposed to come with 5ms response time?

 

how are people undervolting with bios or through control centre XTU?

 

I just used the control panel cpu oc utilty, seems to work well and is applied on boot everytime.

 

I wrote a review of the P775DM3 here
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/droidmahns-clevo-p775dm3-sager-np9172-review.795901/

 

Yeah just done it what a difference already! thanks

 

Wait, What? You can actually open the OC utility?
For the love of god i wish someone could just explain to me how to open the damn thing, can you tell me which hotkey(control center) are you using?

 

It's version 5.0001.0.71 and seems to work without any problems.

 

Same version here and it works fine

 

I have the non K i7-6700, and I thought that is why the CPU OC tab is not working. You must have a K CPU for it to work. Even on hotkey .81 it's not working on my P751DM2

 

Dream machines is charging me 46 euro for the 120hz gsync screen, Eurocom are milking the cr@p out of those prices . Oo

 

Nop doesnt work here in multiple machines, crashes on opening, i think it might have something to do with the OS language, if so this bug will affect more languages, will check and report back!

PS. Talking abut the CPU_RAM OC APP in Control Center

 

Would that be the 120hz display with 5ms response time?
On their website I couldn't find a way to choose the display.


Edit:
Saw in another thread that Dream Machines will have those 120hz in a few weeks
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...0hz-g-sync-displays-option-soon-after.795539/

 

I'm not sure about the response time, as they are ordering the screen on request from me, I don't think they know either as they do not stock them normally .

 

Maybe i should contact them too. Right now there is no reseller in Germany who can provide those displays and the best option for me seemed to be HIDEvolution.

 

Dream machines has the advantage of being a Prema partner shop too, the prices should be inline with HIDevolution if you are in Europe, after shipping and taxes I think HID would probably be quite a bit more expensive, most resellers will give discounts too if you ask for them . ^^

 

Actually i asked HID for a discount but didn't received an answer yet^^
Dream Machines certainly would be the better option but HID offers the P870Dm with a single GPU. Just too many things to look out for...

 

I don't think the current 1080p 120hz panel is 5ms. I wrote in the other forum (P870DM3 lounge) that HIDevolution took out the 5ms language in its description of the 1080p 120hz panel. While I don't think that's an indictment of the current 1080p panel, it is peculiar that they removed any mention of 5ms response time for that panel.

It should be noted that HIDevolution was the only reseller that advertised the 1080p 120hz panel as being 5ms, as I have searched over 6 different companies and no one had the same panel rated as such or even advertised a response time.

 

Just received my new P775DM3 with 6700K and GTX1080, I think there is a huge problem in it's tempeture performance

 

Yea, it may seem that Clevo will not be getting an 5ms panel? Any comment on this Meaker?
So far I only saw MSI to officially advertise the 120 Hz panel as 5ms. In Notebookcheck's MSI GT73VR review they test an unit with a 120hz 5ms screen. The screen in their test unit was a N173HHE-G32 (probably a Chi Mei CMN1747) TN panel. They measured 6.8 ms for black to white which is very good, however the grey to grey was 26 ms which is not the best compared to b2w, but still about 10 ms faster than the old LG IPS panel.
Meaning that MSI got 5ms response time with a TN panel, however the AUO panel we all are waiting for is an IPS panel!

Maybe I'm just paranoid but there might be a chance that the 120 Hz AUO IPS panel will have around the same response time as the currently used LG IPS panel.

 

MSI got dem tricks up their sleeve, seems they are the only ones using that specific screen hence the advertisement.

 

It should be an IPS panel.

~25 ms average response time is good for an IPS panel.

Let's enjoy it.

The other panel that can be overclocked up to 100Hz achieved a similar 25ms in normal operation time.

I've taken some photos of the LG panel to prove if the high response time is visible or not. I'll upload as soon as I can.

I'm sure I prefer having a good color IPS instead of a TN regardless of response times

 

But it seems that the colours are really good on the msi screen.

Lets wait and see for the clevo monitor. I'm a buyer for a 120hz screen, just dont know what laptop to go with it.

 

Well the only reason why I wanted the 120 Hz panel was because of the 5ms response time...now I might just keep the 75 Hz panel and OC it to 100 Hz and save $500 by doing this.
But I wonder if the new AUO screen will have microstutter too like the LG panel if the FPS drops below 45...

 

The current panel misinformation is causing me to wonder about Clevo and the resellers as a whole. People make fun of BGA but at least they are getting the panels right out of the gate. I do love the Clevo beast I have now but that's more to do with how Mr. Fox configured it than anything else. It's the little things here and there that make me cautious in buying a new Clevo. I don't have an issue with adjusting volts, repasting or any of the larger technicalities that goes with owning a DTR, however, the little things add up to make an elite DTR simply great or great just good. If I am paying an elite price, I am expecting an elite product.

 

If you expect a premium, you're gonna have a really bad time...

These are experimental stable at most, nowhere near what premium means.

But this is the beauty of them.

I highly doubt that GTX1080 desktop + 6700K owners don't overclock and don't tinker with them. But that's the point.

I seriously think that average users don't own GTX1080 in either form, be it notebook or desktop. Not to mention that for Desktop, the life cycle of a GPU is even shorter, and the second hand market is really bad. It would not seem as such at first, but they sell for 50% of their buying price... Almost all components for Desktop. Especially the high end loses more on after market.

So we can rejoice, we're doing okay with laptops... Somewhat.... The high end is always a little unstable. Take headphones or any other hobby, the high end kinda gets the short stick of stability. An HD800S headphone really changes with AMPs and it needs an AMP... Same with most other hobbies, after a point.

At any rate, let's not buy LGA just because they might be upgradable, I can guarantee that for 1000$ or so cost of the new card, most people would rather sell the old laptop entirely and buy a new one entirely.

Just my feelings, but I really want socketed hardware because the two laptops with it support 6700K AND have more cooling on GTX1080 or 1070 than any other competitor for the same price (price does matter to me)

 

Let me just put things this way:...

Neither of displays, and nothing which isn't TN won't get you 60 Hz response time. They might have even better refresh rate, but actual not response time. It's just a limitation of IPS panels right now.

I've made a few photos of how the IPS display ghosts at 60FPS animation and so, and it's visible on camera. To the naked eye, the movement is completely smooth though!

EDIT ::: LG Display LP173WF4-SPF1

http://imgur.com/gallery/XaO60

http://imgur.com/ddECnSL

http://imgur.com/CAcpJue

EDIT2 ::: IT looks perfectly smooth to the trained naked eye anyways.

Screen tearing, stuttering, microstutters, and many other things are way more distracting.