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Yes I know benches are not the same as real world gaming.
I am asking you because you said you have tested and you had throttle problem.

I do play games, overwatch/worldofwarcraft/GTA5 and I usually Gsync off too.
My gpu never went more than 80 and if you are talking about non-OCed CPU, my non-OC CPU doesn't even go higher than 70.
The firestrike score and temp, as I mentioned, are done under 4.5 OC.
At 4.0 or 4.2, the temp goes way way down.

 

Yup you are right. It might throttle but I am just sharing my experience with this great laptop.
I just dont want people not buying it because they are scared of throttle.
Because I dont think there is any better laptop with better temp control at this moment.

 

Then you have a blessed unit. Congrats.
I presume you are running a stock BIOS right?
I will keep investigating this case, maybe i get into some other conclusion.

 

Yes stock korean bios. Prema hasn't released any mod yet.
I've installed CC but I dont use it nor XTU. Both of them are known to have some bugs on 6700k laptops from old DM series.
(They had problems both on p750dm and p870dm for me)

I use throttlestop 8.1 for CPU OC and I use stock bios custom memory option for ram OC.

 

How much performance gain will your 1500-17-17-40-278 have vs my 2666-15-15-35-278? Both are stock Samsung 2133mhz memory.

 

Ok let´s stop for a moment to think about this:

I have a good deal of units in stock which allows me to keep build a lot of subjects for testing.
I have a great deal of CPUs which allows me to rule out CPU problems.

So i just took a brand new CPU, a brand new unit, and did what i think most shops are doing, which is assembling using a quality thermal compound but no CPU delid.
To be clear there´s only one BIOS at the moment, the stock CLEVO one if you get different max voltages then you have a modified one.

This is what happens in under a minute of full load, CPU + GPU:


CPU Throttle
GPU @ 80ºC without Gsync ON

So i can keep doing all kinds of benchmarks, tests, but most clients will buy a unit that throttles unless there´s a voltage correction either done by BIOS update (clevo side or shops who mod them or even prema) or client side (client adjusts voltage offset).

Now here´s something funny that i just found out.... The Fan profile plays a HUGE role in this.
If you set it to automatic like most users do, you get the above results, BUT, if you set it to OVERCLOCK profile than it is a hole totally different story.
My conclusion is that with a delidded CPU + using Overclock profile you won´t throttle, still not the awsome temperatures someone would expect.
That is why if you want to get serious on this unit, you will need to lower voltage offset or wait for a BIOS update that does this.

As a reseller i would be happy if CLEVO not only fixed the automatic fan profile, makes no sense in the current state, but also, set the voltage right in stock BIOS.

 

Throttle from 4.0 GHz to 3.7 GHz makes the 6700k still better than the 6700, because that would throttle to 3.0 GHz
You will see the same result even when you use a better software for CPU stress test, like Lynx or Prime95 small fft test. Just load up a 4096 mb Lynx test, it will throttle to this frequency in seconds even without any GPU usage.
This was the same with the P775DM1-G too.
Do you get this throttle in FireStrike and games too? I only experienced this in syntetic tests.

 

So do you think any of these machines running standard clevo bios still need undervolting? I naturally would prefer a prema bios but I'm guessing that will be a while yet. Hopefully clevo run an update first.

 

Isn't that the normal behavior because it's using all cores?

 

No, it should stay at 4.0 GHz. However this is not "normal" throttle experienced at other laptops when the CPU overheats, it is andvanced low-level board throttle, so software like XTU won't even log the throttle in Windows.
Using XTU stress test will not bring this out and the frequency will stay at 4.0 Ghz, however a software which puts more load on the CPU (like the ones I mentioned) will throttle the CPU in mere seconds.
Gaming should be fine since no game will put as much constant load on the CPU like the softwares I mentioned.
However for a "just in case" reason I chosed the 6700k over the 6700 because a throttle in a game from 4.0 GHz to 3.7 GHz is not that big of a deal, however with a 6700 a throttle from 3.7 GHz to 3.0 GHz might hurt.

Oh yea, these things when using the CPU all cores full load will only run the 6700k at 4.0 GHz instead of 4.2 and the 6700 3.7 GHz instead of 4.0 GHz.
Just some info

 

The top turbo bin is always for single core loading

 

Those things are great to know!

I render images and videos, which sometimes stress the CPU badly, and I was wondering why would I want a 6700k instead of a 6700.

Is there any way to decrease the voltage right now?

 

Intel XTU gives you some control over that.

 

The BIOS is kinda watered down regarding this but I guess you can use XTU for this.
Have not tried it with the laptop yet, but according to my experience with my desktop PC the 6700k needs to be undervolted if you don't plan any OC.
With default settings stress testing all 4 cores the 6700k runs at the default 4.2 GHz with more than 1.3 MV core voltage almost nearing 1.4 MV. This is insane !
If you want to use it at 4.2 Ghz, then 1.2 MV is enough for the 6700k. Undervolting it in my PC meant -15C.
The 6700k in my PC is stable at 1.2MV and I have really stressed the CPU to test this out. (And yes I used more reliable software for stressing than software like Aida Stress test)

 

As you know memory OC doesn't do much performance, if you want some memory benches tell me which one you want me to do.

 

XTU is broken when you run it with 6700k clevo laptops.
I dont know why but not only me but alot of people say this.

 

It screws up the fans on some models. They don't ramp up / down properly, sometimes not all all.

 

I know. Just for a small increase in bench
Can you do Aida memory bench as pict? My result with Samsung OEM @2666MHz
Thanks.

 

OMG, its here!


The RAM is here too

 

Congrats!! Waiting on my P750DM2 and ram now :3

Please let me know that the Corsair ram is making the laptop boot normally or else ill cry

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Here you go.

 

I am about ready to pull the trigger for Eurocom's Sky X7E2, with 120 Hz screen, GTX 1080 and no ram (less GBP80). They unfortunately don't let me buy without a CPU (that's still ok, no Silicon Lottery then), but they also don't let me buy without the branding logo? I'm annoyed. I want my lid clean and professional.

edit: They can let me remove the branding... for USD95... sigh...

Hadriel

 

It's not like 'EUROCOM' was a flashy ROG shield logo

 

My P775DM3 will be here tomorrow the wait is killing me

 

So far I can confirm 2 things:
1) The 3000 mhz Corsair rams work, however you need to manually set them to XMP Profile 1 in the BIOS to get 3000 mhz @ CL16 because by default it will be set to 2666 Mhz @ CL 18.
2) I need to send it back because the screen has 1 fu%+!%/ing dead pixel :/

 

Dude that ****ing sucks :/
Did you get the dead pixel warranty? Because I didnt D:

 

Yes, I have 1 year dead pixel warranty.
A note of advice: If you buy it from PCS, you NEED dead pixel warranty...60% of their 60 hz IPS screen stock has 1 or more stuck/dead pixels.

A question:
In the BIOS for voltage offset the ntoes on the side says that it ranges from -500mV to 500 mV...how do I set -1xx value, how can I set negative value ?

 

It's good to hear people's units are and have been coming in. My model with a 1070 should be shipping by the 22nd. My question is, if I receive a DM2 and upgrade later to a 1080, will I be able to turn the DM2 to a DM3 via bios update? :O

 

Played 5 minutes of Rise of the Tomb Raider GPU temp went up to 90C...not very impressed.

 

1080? What thermal paste was used?

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I got mine from PCS today, same here - I ran firestrike as a first thing out of the box and hit 92 gpu and 96 cpu. Control Panel wasn't installed so hopefully I can make some tweaks to help. Except I can't download it from Clevo because the europe and US mirrors are down and the asian one gives me an estimate of 8 hours...
Anyone know where I can get it from?

 

I have installed it from the driver disk.
Is your screen okay ? No dead/stuck pixels?
The CPU runs really hot, I will try to undervolt it in the Clevo software and see if it helps.

 

Those temps seem quite extreme, I'm a bit worried now, 92°C on GPU and 96°C on CPU is toasty hot .

 

The screen had a couple of blue pixels when I first booted up but then vanished after a few minutes, other than that it seems good.

I expected the cpu to be hot and need undervolting but those gpu temps are too hot for comfort! If I cant get them under control it will be going back for a refund. Which would be a shame because it seems to be an excellent piece if hardware otherwise.

 

Recommend a couple of things before sending back, but be careful not to void the warranty:
a) Turn off the laptop, and try to massage the pixel. I don't know if this is still a problem, but sometimes if the pixel is stuck a gently applied massage can work it back into place. May also try a dry Heat Massage- a moderately warm (but not enough to melt) cloth (or inside a bag if it is wet) may help.

b) Software. I think there are still some programs around which push a bunch of colors to your LCD hoping to restore the coloring of the pixel.

I really hope it is something like this, so you can keep the machine.

 

Thanks for the tip, but it is a black pixel meaning that it is dead.

 

Ok - installed control centre, set oc fan profile and dropped 110mv off the cpu. Re ran firestrike and got max of 78 derees gpu and 70 degrees cpu!
The fans get pretty loud but not that much worse than before, I think they are acceptably loud for the performance. 17k no oc in firestrike by the way! From a laptop!!!

 

Seems my unit needs a repaste.
I have given the CPU -170 mV (I have tested it and it is rock stable) and even with this large amount of UV in FireStrike I get max 74C for the CPU and 84C for the GPU (with disabled G-Sync so the FPS would not be locked at 75)

And the real strange thing is that it seems Rise of the Tomb Raider does not like this laptop screen if G-Sync is used...in DX12 mode just like with GTX980 (in P775DM1-G) I get a black afterimage of textures in the background when moving the camera (no problem like this when using DX11) when G-Sync is active.

 

I would check the paste job, maybe a portion of the core was not covered.

 

Sheesh...I thought Dell was bad. You have no idea the monkey paste jobs that I've seen on the XPS and AW's lol. I think I (not proud of it at all) hold the record to date with the plastic cap still be left on the GPU on my XPS. Yea, no joke. I've actually framed it inside of a clear baseball case on my trophy rack. Unbelievable I know...

Good thing I'll be repasting my unit anyway when it arrives. But what a shame...there's no excuse for us to be experiencing this and there's no way in heck 90C+ is acceptable to any standards. No lame excuses...this is just flat out poor quality control with monkey's applying the thermal paste. Get a grip right?

Anyhow, glad to see the temps being tamed by users doing the repastes themselves. That's a good thing

 

mine too you noticed none of Clevo drivers are on it and the website section for downloads hasn't got them? also clevo website isn't working click to download and just does nothing

 

how did you get the Control Centre?

 

It was on the driver disc that came with the laptop from PCS, at first I disregarded it as probably being ourdated and went to try to find everything online too but ran into the same problems you did. Actually the disc software seems up to date and all works perfectly from what I have tried so far.

 

I'll have to use my wife's awful MacBook tomorrow to rip the disc onto a usb. Shame just ran timespy and for most of it the cpu was 90+ even hitting 100degrees. My laptop failed it's initial testing in construction and had to be repasted. Wonder if this is more the bios and voltage than the cooling? without control centre my only fan options and normal and maximum I'm sure if I ran it again with max fans the result would be different but I can't be doing that nonstop they sound so loud haha

 

Tony I would max the fans and run firestrike to see if you get similar temperature results as the others. FN & F1 should maximise them.

 

My turn!

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I still cant decide between a 1070 and a 1080 because of temperatures.
Oh and also between PCSpecialist and mySN\XMG

 

Guys...its my first time installing an m.2 myself since I usually go with preinstalled by reseller.
So I have my ssd but Im not sure if I am missing an screws as nothing came with it.
Do I simply install it and use the one screw on the laptop at the end of the bay to support it or am I missing something here? (P750DM2)
Thanks

 

Yup that's it. Just use that one screw to hold the m.2 down. You're all set.



If it's a fresh m.2 drive, you may need to allocated it before installing Windows.

 

So for me its the silver screw, im gonna need a different screwdriver for that one it seems

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