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    *** Official Clevo P770ZM / Sager NP9772 and P770ZM-G / Sager NP9773 Owner's Lounge ***

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  1. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    I'll be interested to see how it goes.
     
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    It will suck compared to a 10-series card, but still work OK. Been using it with DK2 then CV1. You will just get a message saying you are running below recommenced specifications. You wont be able to play at max res with 16x antialiasing to minimize visual artifacts but it will still play decent.

    Haven't got feedback from Prema, would be nice to get that bios to mess around with my laptop now that its starting to break down from everywhere, I'll be willing to take some risks with it :).
     
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    Typically you can get fairly far on the stock firmware.
     
  4. Robert Boche

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    Was wondering... if the LCD is lvds, wont work, ok, but will it black but still boot and external ports still work? or i need to unplug the lcd first? I.e. not caring about lcd for a while and using external hdmi or edp connection.

    Re:1060 in p770zm
     
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    I think it would just not detect the display.
     
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    Hello. I bought a clevo p770zm laptop without cpu / gpu. I installed celeron g1840 and k1100m there. The laptop is loading, you can go into the bios, but windows does not boot, bsod appears. Then 22 beep appears and the laptop turns off. Does anyone have a bios from clevo k1100m?
     
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    Does safe mode boot ok?
     
  8. cafeogu

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    it does not load into safe mode either. bsod appears. and then 22 beep appear. When the laptop starts, the fans do not spin; when an error occurs, they start spinning at 100%. I tried to put clevo v 1.2 7970m with enduro off - the same mistake was. I need to find a bios from clevo / kapok quadro k1100m or search for clevo gtx970m graphics card?
     
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    K1100m is not something they ever put in iirc.
     
  10. cafeogu

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    I was looking for a cheap video card for p770zm and selected k1100m from the datasheet, but most likely my video card is from dell and therefore I have a problem? Or I have a problem with the motherboard?
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

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    HP cards do tend to have more luck iirc but it can be pot luck, the quadro cards were not really officially supported.
     
  12. cafeogu

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    I tried the FirePro M7820 from an hp 8740w laptop, the image was not displayed on the screen, and there were only 22 beeps. I need the most cheap gpu for p770zm, which model will be supported?
     
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    The official ones were 965m/970m/980m.
     
  14. RZ-90

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    Sorry if this is a silly question to ask, but can I use this laptop model's stock processor; i7-4790K to desktop PC with same Intel socket (1150)?
     
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    Yes, the CPU works in both the desktop and this laptop. Same chip.
     
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    Okay. Thank you. I have to temporarily unuse my Clevo laptop and use its powerful CPU to desktop for a few month until I can afford to get another CPU.
     
  17. Meaker@Sager

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    No problems swapping the cou back and forth either as needed for now.
     
  18. cafeogu

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    Today, I found out the type of screen connection on my p770. This is an edp connection. This is some strange laptop from Xi Computer. According to the stickers on the case, it is p770zm, and according to the type of connection it is p770zm-g)))
     
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    -g is an internal g-sync designation. That would break getting a new gpu but it would function without g-sync.
     
  20. cafeogu

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    From another topic
     
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    Indeed that's right.
     
  22. Robert Boche

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    Well it seems that you CAN plug an RTX card in the NVME slot of this deceiving non-upgradable laptop, and have full benefits of RTX! Its just a tad space-taking but nevertheless, mission accomplished for my part... can finally play games at a decent framerate and unplugging the GPU is only a matter of removing the NVME adapter.

    Prema generously sent me his BIOS so that took care of any whitelisting or limitation issues, Bought an ADT-Link board + RTX2060 (EVGA single fan). followed various threads on EGPU.io and it worked on both windows 8.1 and 10. Much easier than I thought and full speed, no crappy PCIE 1x setup

    The only 2 downsides are losing the NVME slot (so you have 2 sata and one M.2 remaining so plenty) and in my case I can control pretty much everything on the EVGA GPU except the damn fan that is always 100% so either I'll have to hack away at some bios or put a pot in-between.

    Also, if I am not powering the GPU with external powersupply, it just wont spin up and be detected. No electrical damage or anything of the sort, thus if the laptop sits on a table most of the time, you can decide to turn on or not the GPU when gaming.
     
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    It would be hard for the laptop to see something without power yes, the m.2 is not going to be delivering power to the slot after all ;)
     
  24. Robert Boche

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    The point was more about sinking current issues / toasting something if attaching it without providing external power.
     
  25. Meaker@Sager

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    As I said no adapter is going to draw from the m.2 slot, it would need a 75w supply. Unless you got a really dodgy adapter.
     
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    Another note is for those who like repairing things, you can recuperate the LEDS and buy a cheaper no-led keyboard to replace, but you have to be very careful when extracting the led setup from the old keyboard as it tears up easily and the light guides are really fragile.

    Here's a pic of the overall footprint.


    The only last deception on that laptop that I can't fix is replacing my flickering screen (probably cold solder spot somewhere) to a 4K since I figured out there was an EDP and LVDS motherboard and I paid for an "upgaded" LCD which was LVDS, EDP board was never a clear option at the time of purchase just like the upgrade path to 10x0. But thanks to @Prema for the Bios (still owe you that beer) and others that did those EGPU hacks, that laptop is now useful again.



    EGPU_Eurocom_P7pro.jpg
     
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    Does the whole LCD flicker or a part?
     
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    Hi @Prema any chance you could help me out with a p770zm bios id like to use newer nvme. TY very much in advance for any help
     
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    You can use them for data just not booting.
     
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    I have a 770zm laptop. His screen is connected via EDP. A laptop with G-Sync or not? BIOS screenshot
     

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    Head to the nvidia driver panel, if there is no option then no g-sync.
     
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    I can not find this item, the laptop beeps 22 times and turns off. CPU / GPU temperature is 50 degrees. Screen frequency maximum 60 Hz. The laptop does not have a battery, maybe the EC gives an error on it. Maybe someone has a BIOS where the EC is disabled and there are no errors?
     
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    If you want a diagnosis you will need to provide basic information like when it started happening, what changes have been made, any symptoms you have seen etc.
     
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    I do not have this information. I bought a laptop at ebay auction. Lot was untested and as is as. In the laptop there was no cpu / gpu, charger and battery.
    I read a lot of information about clevo p7xx, but there is no exact data what exactly the EC checks and how to decrypt this number of sounds. Big Big problem (((
     
  35. Meaker@Sager

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    You bought a broken laptop but don't have the experience/tools to fix it? You need to start from the beginning, strip out parts one by one, look at what makes a difference etc.
     
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    Meaker@Sager , look at part of the scheme, it shows that the EC is checking:
    1 Thermal sensor
    2 SMART FUNx2
    3 SMART from Battery and AC in
    Now, I do not have battery, maybe this is the problem and the laptop beeps.
     

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    It should not cause a shut off with having no battery.
     
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    This is true, I bought a new battery and the problem did not resolve. Maybe you have the latest BIOS, I try to reload it.
     
  39. Meaker@Sager

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    You would need to email support, I don't use the file store directly.
     
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    Ok, I don’t have the data to contact support. I'll try to write Prema, maybe it will help.
     
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    Check that the vrms are making good contact with the heatsinks by the way.
     
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    I checked the thermal pads on VRM, they are in good condition and the contact was good. My question is, when you turn on the laptop, at what speed should the fans rotate? On my laptop they don’t spin, they start spinning only after an error.
     
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    The fans should ramp up very briefly on startup then they should match the current temperature vs fan speed setting.
     
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    Finally, I found latest bios for Clevo p770zm. The EC was flashed without problems, and the error did not go away. But when flashing the main BIOS, my laptop turned off as usual after 22 peaks. And now I have a brick)))) Maybe someone has a BIOS dump?
     
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    Sou ds like you flashed the wrong file, I dont have a full dump to hand.
     
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    hi all do some one know where i can find unlocked bios for xmg-u705 aka clevo p771zm non g sync version i searching everywhere without success :( if some one can help thanks
     
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    I don't know of any that are publically available. What are you trying to achieve?
     
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    i want to boot windows form nvme i didnt see any option on stock bios
     
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    Correct you can't, only use as a 2and drive is supported on the stock BIOS.
     
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    that looking for custom bios or if some can help with the drives on 970mi they dont detect my gpu
     
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