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Yah in another thread I have been introduced to the eDP vs LVDS issue as well. You need an eDP panel for the 1060 to work.

Guess the next route is to try a miniPCI-E to PCI-E 1x riser, if it posts, then the NVMe to PCI-E 4x. Its going to be a fugly setup tho .

the NVMe to 4x would be something like this
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/322947048301
(if url is eventually expired, keywords: New M.2 NVMe to PCIE 3.0 16x Extender Riser Card Adapter Power Cable for Mining)

 

4x chipset is not going to be a great solution.

 

can you elaborate?

If you mention clean-wise, it will look like a mess, agreed. Don't care.

If you mean electronic-wise, I would be glad to know before testing it out by myself. Will the bios post? Do I need a special bios for NVMe since I read I couldn't plug a Samsung without a patch, etc.

If you mention Speed-wise, 4x vs 16x won't cause much of a hit from what I've read so far with others going that route, of course I don't look foward doing 4K@120fps gaming.

Of course if there was a solution planned with the nextgen GPUs around the corner, working with my laptop, I would wait, but I have been waiting 2 years now always with half baked answers and no clear promises...in the end to be told heat sink is an issue, which its not because I would be ready to mod my case and put a custom fan in there. Then the eDP and LVDS issue, stuff I leaned from this forum that could have been mentionned straight from the start 2 years ago.

I know, not the typical customer and use case, normally I should just throw it away and get a desktop, but I like everything else about that machine so if it means plugging a little cable + external GPU for VR usage and removing it on the road, I'm more than happy to do so.

So, please elaborate .

 

Hi, i like to upgrade my p770zm from 980m to 1070. Also i wanted to upgrade the terrible tn panel it came with. Is it possible? What will it support 2K or 4K panel?

 

4x chipset is different to 4x CPU, you get added latencies and on z97 they are pci-e gen 2 not 3.

 

Hi,

My P770M is not working anymore

The caps lock + num lock + scroll lock keep blinking and beeping about 20 times before the system shuts off. I did a RMA and they told me they are not sure if it is the 970m or the mortherboard.
They could not fix it because they don't have any spare parts.

Does anyone know what I should do? My Clevo is off warranty.

 

You would need to find someone with a card so you can test it I suppose or find a repair shop with that part.

 

Hi I'm new on this forum.
Need help to obtain Prema Bios
I have P771 ZM ( Hyperbook )since 2015. I would like to do a little upgrade with SSD 970 NVME SSD. As I see this SSD won't wok on my present Bios.
Have You got Bios from Prema as yet?
If yes could You share with me if possible ?

 

I´m gonna need some help from you all. My ZM with 4790K and 980M died some time ago. I sent it to Mysn for repair outside of warranty but DHL fumbled and now it´s gone.
They´re still looking for it but the time is getting close for a compensation instead. What would it be equivalent to in todays hardware?
I guess the 1060 6GB is closest to the 980M. What desktop and laptop CPU is closest to the 4790K in terms of performance? Which Clevo barebone today can hold a desktop CPU?

 

The current-gen Clevo LGA barebones are the P75xTM/TM1, P775TM/TM1, and P870TM/TM1.

I guess the closest modern comparisons to your 4790K are the desktop i5-8400 and laptop i5-8300H.

 

I'd go for a 1060 and 8700H, just because the 4790K had quite the clock advantage and it's a very common pairing.

 

Thanks. The i5 8400 has less threads and is clocked lower though.

 

It´s not really what I´d like to order, it´ll come down to a discussion how much they´ll have to compensate me and for that I need a fair comparison to the 4790K.
Either way I fear I´ll get chafted.

 

Yeah, but it has 6 non Hyper-Threaded cores versus the 4790K's 4 Hyper-Threaded cores, so multi-threaded performance is stronger, and the difference in clocks at stock is offset by the IPC improvement. If you're talking an overclocked 4790K though, a more apt comparison would be the 8600K.

 

It depends on the terms of your insurance and if it's a modern equivalent or one of similar performance.

 

Fair enough. I could overclock it a decent amount but ran it stock because that was enough for any game I play and the 980M.

Not sure how the insurance will work. The shipment label was provided by Mysn, I just slapped it on and DHL lost the package.
I guess I'll try and demand compensation to buy a new, modern PC with similar performance.

 

Does anyone know of any replacement fans that do work with the np9772? I ask because I see that there are fans on aliexpress and amazon that do say they are compatible but it doesn't even say whether it's the gpu or cpu fan, I'm not sure if they're even the same model of fan on this laptop. Does anyone have experience replacing a fan? The bearing on mine has been going for a few months.

 

Are you sure it's the bearing that's gone? It's usually that it needs a new drop of oil.

 

Its definitely at the age where it could need a bit of lubrication.

 

I went ahead and picked up some sewing oil and will see how that goes, I don't remember there being a spot where I could add oil to the fan bearings but I could be wrong. It definitely needs some maintenance since every once in a while it'll start clicking when there isn't any obstructions in the fan well. I am also curious if there are any higher rpm fans out there for this model, about to apply some conductonaut to improve temps when it gets in the mail.

 

All notebook fans are custom and very rarely can you find swaps, I am not aware of any on this one.

 

Hiho,

I have a XMG u705 or also known as P770ZM-G / Sager NP9773 or as Schenker says a Clevo P771ZM. Since the official drivers are from 2015 and cause constantly some incombabilities under Windows 10 Pro 64bit and other problems, like in the worst cases blue screens, I want to know where I can find compatible and working Windows 10 suited drivers?

Cheers

 

From parts manufactures like intel and Nvidia.

 

It took some time for Prema to get in touch with me. I was asked to not share the BIOS files and as we have different systems, the ones I have may not work correctly anyways. As Meaker@Sager told me, is to use the @ before the username to alert Prema, then wait and be patient.
It was almost 2 months before I got the BIOS files I needed, partly due to personal holidays on both of our accounts

 

Just an update for any future people looking at this thread. I got 3 in 1 sewing oil and lubed up the fans behind the sticker and it seems to be running much quieter. I also delidded the processor and added conductonaut and got a 15-20c~ temperature drop at full load which is insane, Intel must have used mayonnaise on my processor. I also put it on my gtx 980m and it doesn't go above 70c.

Full load from prime95 at stock boost/settings except for a 0.030mv undervolt:

 

Yeah you certainly went to work and go the results, nice job.

Hopefully moving forward delidding will be a thing of the past.

 

@Prema

I would greatly appreciate having a copy of the P770ZM Modded bios. I currently own an Eurocom P7 Pro SE that can't do squat with a 960 NVMe SSD.

...plus I am planning on testing an external GPU through the M.2 (just received my adaptor), so anything that can help with tuning/tweaking would be most welcomed.

 

An internal 1060 would do better than the external options in case performance was your aim.

 

@Meaker@Sager

I must have missed the part where I could stick a GTX1060 in my P7 Pro?

been asking for that for years for this machine, and last time (not too long ago) I was told it was still incompatible with current heat sink and there wouldn't be any R&D made for that specific machine.

...and when asking if it would still work electrically or Bios-wise, radio silence, again .

As far as I know, nobody made a 1060 spin in this machine.

 

So long as you have a eDP connection to the panel rather than the older LVDS standard and use a standard MXM format card you can make it work.

 

If I have an older LVDS can it be upgraded? I need to buy only a eDP pannel and swap it or do I need something else?

Why Would Eurocom tell me it cannot be done with current heat sink?

 

When did they tell you? Certainly the clevo cards do not fit. You need to check your panel to find what connector it has.

 

My Intel wireless Wireless-AC 7265 card may be failing. I know it's an m. 2 form factor and I compared it with newer cards from Intel and noticed that the Wireless-AC 9560 runs this system interface, M.2: CNVio, as to where all of the ones before it use this system interface, Wi-Fi(PCIe), BT(USB). Has anyone tried the Wireless-AC 9560 in a Sager NP9772/Clevo P770ZM? If not would the best option be the Wireless-AC 9260, as I am planning on upgrading router to a 1.76Gbps within a year.

 

It looks like I answered my own question, the 9560 cannot be used in the NP9772/P770ZM. The latest card right now is the Wireless-AC 9260 that can be used in these systems.

 

9560 and 9260 are same gen, there are no advantages to the higher version numbering. only difference is that the 9560 is dependant on mobo integrated hardware, without which it cannot function on its own. so best to get the stand alone version 9260 or its killer equivalent AC-1550

Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Max 2 (Oxygen) using Tapatalk

 

The 9260 should be pretty easy to source and not too expensive

 

Thank you for confirming what I figured that out shortly after putting in the first post about WiFi card failing. I have have bad experiences with the killer brand wifi cards. They work for about 2 years and then die. I have had several models and multiple of the same model in my last Sager but because of them failing every couple of years I just went back to Intel which was the first wireless notebook card and was still working 10 years later, that is until I tore the notebook apart due to a motheboard failure on the HP Z series, I think it was the Z1100, if I remember correctly.

This one, if it is truely failing, is only started almost 5 years after I started using it, so currently I will stay with Intel.

On a different note, I never did notice the differences between the killer series and Intel when playing games. At that time I did not have packet capturing software or network analysis tools to really verify the claims. So I might buy both and test them if my card does fail.

 

I did find the 9260 for close to $15 on Amazon but when looking again less then a day later it was no longer there but still found them for around $21, which is still cheaper then I paid for the 7260 when the Killer card died in my Sager 8170-S1, if I remember correctly, been 6 years now since that was done.

 

Sounds about right

 

Have you got this issue fixed? I don't have the @Prema bios yet, but am anticipating trouble with my P770ZM

If Prema is around I would appreciate some help. Trying to keep this old laptop up to speed with projects. Thank you.

 

Did you have any luck?

 

good to know, thanks!

 

If the only difference is the "1" at the end of the model number (EG 770ZM vs 771ZM) then it's cosmetic only and the BIOS files can be swapped no issue.

 

@Prema Would be nice to have your super Bios for my P7Pro (P770ZM), I want to use newer NVME drives with no issues.

Guess RTX2060 won't work for our laptops due to required wattage eh? Would be awesome if it would work without having to resort to eGPU setups...

 

Has anyone tried using Oculus Rift VR googles with a P771ZM GTX 980m rig? I'm interested on this technology for flight sims but what I read is not encouraging for my laptop...

BTW, @Prema I'm interested in your BIOS updates too, I bought a Samsung 970 Pro and well...

 

Physically it's wired properly but the stock 980m was below the recommended minimum of a desktop 970.

 

IIRC the 980M won't work right with the Vive or the Oculus, though if you were to get one of them working with it, it would be the Oculus, since it "cheats" to be sort of compatible with lower end GPUs.

 

I thought it's not "VR ready" due to the performance levels but it should function in a manner.

 

Yes, it's not considered VR ready because it doesn't work at all with the Vive. It also doens't meet the recommended Oculus specifications but does meet what they call their minimum specifications. They note on their site that some Rift content may require a computer that exceeds the minimum spec, so it won't work for everything.

 

Thanks for the replies guys, I might have the opportunity to try an Oculus CV1 shortly, I'll let you know.