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    *** Official Clevo P770ZM / Sager NP9772 and P770ZM-G / Sager NP9773 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. akm

    akm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Where can I download Windows 10 drivers for P770ZM?
     
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    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    black screen on startup is back again.sometimes(once every 2-3 weeks),when starting laptop,screen stays completely blank and then laptop shuts down,and restarts normally by itself.whole process takes maybe a minute.everytime this happens,the voltage changes in xtu gets cancelled and i ahve to change it again.ive been constantly lowering the undervolting ive done from -120 till -85 right now.(iirc when it was -120,every startup was like this,so i guess its the voltage?)
     
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    Yes, there may be some edge case of frequency and voltage on start up causing the issue.
     
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    Anyone with a similar problem?
     
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    Why? Even the stock 970M would be better. You have the best cooling system in a relatively thin 17" notebook right now. You have the option for a 330 watt PSU. You have a 4790K that will eliminate any issues with CPU you could possibly have. A Z97 chipset with switchable graphics completely disabled.

    Why didn't you upgrade your GPU?

    As for your issue. I suggest backing up everything and do a clean install, wipe it all and start from scratch. Update to the latest BIOS as well.
     
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  8. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    Yes, I had that same problem. However, I had an NVIDIA GPU so the solution was different than for your AMD GPU, however you will likely have to add a registry key to allow brightness control. I tried to find the required registry key but so far I have had no luck in doing so. We may need to get @Prema on this.

    You may need Prema's BIOS/EC to get brightness control back, I know I did, it wouldn't work on any stock BIOS on my P377SM-A.

    Edit:

    Try this:
    Go to Registry Editor (regedit.exe)

    Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000Next, go find:MD_EnableBrightnesslf2
    KMD_EnableBrightnessInterface2

    Set both to 0.

    1. Reboot.
     
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  9. akm

    akm Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yes I have tried this registry fix, it didn't work. MD_EnableBrightnesslf2 key was not there by default, so I added it myself. It should actually be KMD instead of MD. I have tried both, by the way.

    If I upgrade to the latest Prema Bios for this model, will this problem be solved or do I need a custom Prema Bios specifically addressing this problem?
     
  10. i_pk_pjers_i

    i_pk_pjers_i Even the ppl who never frown eventually break down

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    I don't even know if upgrading to Prema's BIOS will fix it for you, but it helped for me. You don't need a custom Prema BIOS, the regular Prema BIOS should be fine.
     
  11. akm

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    I needed an AMD GPU specifically for video rendering purposes. My card is R9 M290X, but it is being detected by the system as HD8970M. It was the fastest and the only AMD card available for this model.

    I updated the BIOS earlier, it didn't fix the issue. I haven't yet updated to the very latest BIOS but I doubt it will fix the problem as its changelog only says it adds support for M1000 and M3000 nvidia GPUs.
     
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    Interesting, especially about video rendering purposes. Video rendering software I've run into run better on NVidia, mainly because of CUDA. What are you doing that requires AMD?
     
  13. akm

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    You may be talking about video encoding software. In case of video rendering, CUDA has no advantages, rather disadvantages. CUDA decoding, for example, unnecessarily puts the GPU in high power state. AMD is generally better for rendering purpose: OpenCL works better in AMD, DXVA deinterlacing in nvidia suffers from loss of chroma if you don’t use DXVA rendering, Output dithering can be disabled in AMD etc.
     
  14. ignorant

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    Guys could anyone please tell me how much does the P770ZM weigh WITH the PSU and power cable? I understand that without is 3.9kg. I don't have access to a scale right now and I am in urgent need of finding out :/
     
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    The charger weighs about 3 pounds, ~1.36KG.
     
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    It's portable if you want to travel each day to work or something. I use it on my lap in bed or on the couch. And it does move from room to room frequently. It is the thinnest laptop of it's type. But still a monstrosity. But the performance, cooling and hardware make it worth it. Though cooling can always be improved considering the benchmark is 65C at full load on CPU nowadays.
     
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    You add about 1.6kg for the 330W power brick.
     
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    TomJGX I HATE BGA!

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    You need Prema BIOS for AMD GPU... @Prema I remember you said these should work in P770ZM right? Your BIOS should enable compatibility etc I guess?
     
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    Do you mean vBIOS for AMD GPU? Can you please share the link for Prema BIOS download you are referring to?
     
  20. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    That card will work just fine except for screen brightness control (needs manual registry tinkering).
    The BIOS won't show the proper name, but that's just cosmetically.
     
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    Thanks for the reply, Prema. Could you please describe what registry tinkering needs to be done?

    For what it's worth, the notebook (P770ZM) BIOS doesn't detect this card. The system and the GPU work fine though, except for the display brightness issue.
     
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    Unless the BIOS has a listing for the hardware ID it leaves the ID blank in the bios, but it is picking it up properly.
     
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    Was curious if anyone had any suggestions for cleaning out from under the keys on the 9772 - Don't want to just go popping stuff of it if there is a better method.
     
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    Compressed air :)
     
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    Hmm.. So it's clear that I just need the registry fix for the problem. If anybody has an AMD GPU in a notebook with brightness controls working, can maybe trace the registry keys specific to brightness control and share them.
     
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    I should also mention that the Hotkey utility doesn't work either. It crashes all the time. The crash message points to brightness.dll file so it crashes probably due to the brightness problem only. I suppose that once the brightness issue is fixed, the hotkey utility will start working too.
     
  27. i_pk_pjers_i

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    Yes, that is correct. I had hotkey crashing with brightness.dll for a long time until I did the registry tweak that I posted.
     
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    Is anyone use the SoundBlaster X-Fi MB3?? I just saw a picture with newer X-Fi MB5 on P770ZM and with much better UI and Option for audio setup. Idk how to upgrade or update it. Is it possible? and is this just a software or got some audio chip in it with their brand?
     
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    @jaybee83 be our beta tester :p
     
  30. tanzmeister

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    hey guys! i ve just got my Clevo p771zm/g barebone with 980m and i have installed i7 4790k cpu in it.

    i have delided the CPU and changed the TIM under it using Gelid Extreeme thermal paste. the connection between the heasink and HIS is really poor, so i had to spread the thermal paste on both HIS and the heasink to illiminate the random gaps. the results are that in the XTU stress test i dont go over 94C in turbo mode and disabling turbo mode makes it run 80-84 during the whole test with automatic fan control.

    however when i switch to manual fan control, during the stress test the fan just stops spinning at all when the temps hit 80C and does not start even when it gets to 99 !!!

    also the Hotkeys/Command control utilty shows wrong temperature reading and crashes when it gets readings data switched from C to F.

    i am using Windows 8.1, and i think i have installed all drivers except airplane mode. any ideas?
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    What are you using for manual control? Fn + number 1 (not F1 or fn + F1) sets it to max fan.

    Couple suggestions, use CLU between the die and ihs. Next, use a dot or series of dots, or x instead of applying to both sides. This is to prevent air bubbles. Make sure you are running control center 5.0000.0.8 (hotkeys). Use performance auto or max in hot keys, not custom, and set it under performance (or entertainment if you want balance under power options), install the most recent xtu, etc. Just quick suggestions.
     
  32. tanzmeister

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    5.0000.0.8 hotkeys crashes upon start, i think it is for win10.

    i want custom fan profile, i read people using XTU fan profile, but i cant understand how!
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Xtu doesn't have a custom fan profile... Download the win 8.1 version off Clevo main site or eurocom's website (I forgot what the model name is with them, pro 7 maybe, just look at specs to confirm a 4790k). You can try with the custom under control panel, can't guarantee success though.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Xtu doesn't have a custom fan profile... Download the win 8.1 version off Clevo main site or eurocom's website (I forgot what the model name is with them, pro 7 maybe, just look at specs to confirm a 4790k). You can try with the custom under control panel, can't guarantee success though.
     
  35. tanzmeister

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    other than that it's an awesome notebok! and i am more than happy with the temp, did repasting almost 4 times the other day to achieve these results.

    you think gelid can have air bubbles? anyway, i think due to a large area of HIS the conductivity betwen HIS and heatsink is not as important as the conductivity between bare chip surface and HIS.
     
  36. tanzmeister

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    no luck with the Hotkeys of any version i have found, some crash on start and some crash when temps reading is switched between C and F. all of them lie about temp readings dramatically!!!
     
  37. tanzmeister

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    what is CLU?

    edit: got that! liquid metal
     
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    do you use win10 for your p770zm?
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Yes I do, but a custom build. See PowerShell mods, stop Windows spyware, and ntlite to make your own!!! :)
     
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    ha! thanks for the tip.

    i found hotkeys/command center version 5.0000.0.16 and it does not crash anymore, the temps readings are gone though.

    but the custom fan profile still does not work, it starts up, runs, but when hits 80C the fan just stops. really weird stuff.
     
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    so what max temps do you have on your 4790k at stock in XTU stress test with auto fan? can you please test that for me? i would like to use it as a reference
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I'll test later today and post an image...
     
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    Hei, ive been trying to figure out how to add a lte module on mine. have the version with the speakers instead of the simcard layout. anyone know if it there are pinouts for a simcard on both versions?
    would have bought the one with it interageted but its isnt available inn my country.
    have a huawai M.2 Socket 2 lte module. and my thoughts are to solder a simcard slot to the module or use the internal pins on the board.
    have an old pcb 1300mhz antenna which is half the frequenzy of are what available here. thinking it will work good enough.
    this lte module have a gps reciver too so if i get this to work il add a small gps antenna as well.
     
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    hey pal, do you use NTlite Pro or Free, i'm just building my own W10 Pro Image, cause i got W8.1 working now but only wanted it to test Gsync with the modded 6ameNa8 Drivers wich unfortunately didn't work.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I bit the bullet and bought it a couple weeks back (the $45 home version)...
     
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    Ah ok, will try to get rid of some of the Features using the Free Version
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    All of it can be done for free. Get Windows adk for win 7 and Windows aik for 8 and above. Between aik and PowerShell, you can remove everything ntlite does...
     
  49. akm

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    @ Prema: While trying to find a fix to the problem, I stumbled on this thread. As you mentioned there that if the screen internal firmware can't interface with the EC then things like brightness control won’t work. I have an IPS panel (LP173WF4 SPD1) on my P770ZM. The current BIOS version of the system is 1.03.14 and EC version is 1.03.09 (latest). Even if I upgrade to the latest BIOS version 1.03.15, the EC version will remain unchanged and that won’t fix the problem.
    Do you have any suggestion? Could you please provide an EC version update which can fix the brightness problem?

    @ All: Is there any utility, besides Clevo Hotkey App, which can control the brightness of the above mentioned IPS display?
     
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    please, please do me a run on the XTU stress test, desperately waiting for your results :)
     
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