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    *** Official Clevo P770ZM / Sager NP9772 and P770ZM-G / Sager NP9773 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. superkyle1721

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    @Scerate I was going to do the method myself a while back when it was first stated but I never took the time to measure the screw size pitch etc. do you remember what you bought and about how many turns each? Personally I feel pretty confident in doing the method without damage as I know what not to do haha but if you did a write up on it I'm sure others including me would be very appreciative.
     
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    ahm actually i didn't bought anything i had some spare screws lying around from my desktop Case, i acutally used exactly those screws you are using for the DVD ROM, Card Reader etc, think these are called M3 Screws, they fit in perfectly. I then applied some Prolimatech PK3 in X-Pattern put on the Heatsink and applied a bit preasure with the finger on the middle of the Heatsink on the CPU area, then as you can see at the attachement i marked the screws with a line so i can somewhat equally screw them in.

    Then i put in one after another and turned the screws counter-clockwise till you hear the typical "click" and screwed it only in a little bit so that the screws aren't falling out. then i set all 4 screws of course in a starting position and turned them exactly 4 times, the left side acutally feels very loose on my heatsink and the right sight sits a bit tighter, but i thought i give it a go and i will see anyways and yeah the results for me were excellent and my CPU was prone to overheat extremely fast.

    I even tried turning 5 times but my temps seems to got a bit worse, so i screw it back 1 time and i was good to go. As you can see too i actually used paint to draw a line on the second pic, so that you guys can see the lines better i made.

    edit: added 14minute Prime95 as proof for my temps :) used prime 27.9

    IMG_20150624_184454.jpg IMG_20150624_184553.jpg Screenshot (11).png
     
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    Hi im looking for this laptop do you guys recommend me it to me? I was looking between this and msi gt72 what you guys recommend? I never use or have a sager vlevo laptop. I like 75hz screen and OC to 100hz and desktop cpu... This model have ovearheat problems? And between 17 and 15 inch its big different?
     
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    Good work Scerate. What were your undervolt settings on XTU?
     
  5. Scerate

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    don't use XTU, i set everything for testing in Throttlestop 8.0 beta2, and then enter it in the BIOS. As you can see i'm using about 1.09v static voltage, offset isn't working out on my cpu that well
     
  6. Mr Najsman

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    I´m having some problems with the audio. I think..

    I have recorded gameplay with both Shadowplay and OBS. Sometimes my voice is coming through without issue. The next day it might be extremely low, barely audible, I haven´t changed a thing inbetween. Changing ingame audio settings does nothing, even after reboot. I´m guessing video and audio gets captured earlier in the loop somehow.

    What I may have noticed (not sure) is sometimes with the same volume set in Windows I have to adjust my headset volume differently. As in sometimes the audio for the whole system seems to be higher. If so that´s when my vocie gets drowned out. But I have no way to control this, every setting and slider is the same and it seems to happen at will.

    It had been working for a couple of days now, I just sat down and did a test (I always test now as I had to replay 45 minutes some time ago) and the extremely low mic sound is back. I have no idea how to raise it. For the moment I can´t record and this is becoming quite frustrating.
     
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    So I finally got my P770ZM-G back last week and had a chance to load some games this weekend.

    It turns out G-Sync is specifically enabled only with i5 and i7 CPUs.

    I ordered my laptop with a Xeon E3-1231 v3 to save some money as I knew the integrated graphics in an i7 would not be used anyway.

    The reseller upgraded my laptop to an i7-4790 for free as compensation for my having to ship it back to them and get G-Sync working.

    When it came back I reinstalled my SSD with the same original installation of Windows 8.1 and Nvidia 353.06 drivers, and G-Sync was enabled in the control panel (I had sent it back with an older SSD and only a clean install of Windows and the Clevo supplied drivers for them to troubleshoot).

    Other than the initial G-Sync mix up I am very happy with the laptop so far and would recommend the G-Sync option.
     
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    Quoting myself here. Yesterday I had medium volume, as in voice was audible but too low. I ended up using OBS with its mic boost on 3 after some testing.

    But this is just a bandaid, a tiresome one since I need to tweak before each recording. Still no idea why audio is changing from boot to boot or even if it´s voice that gets lower or system sounds that gets louder and drowning the voice. Maybe I should try the latest realtek drivers, mine is from early spring.
     
  9. Kommando

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    Yes. This one. No. No, it's two inches in difference only.
     
  10. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes just the panel and chassis size.
     
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    The display brightness controls are not working. It’s perhaps due to the AMD card not being recognized by the system. The Hotkey utility crashes all the time. I have tried different versions of the utility and also upgraded to the latest Clevo bios 1.03.14. In the CMOS setup, it doesn’t show the vbios version or any info about the GPU.

    The other issue is a minor one. I wanted to change the “Style Note” logo to a custom logo but couldn’t find any thread related to it. Since I am using UEFI mode in bios, I can’t even disable that logo. It looks really bad.

    There is one more issue which I am not sure about yet. Apparently, there is a bit of micro-stuttering when playing games and video. Even the system doesn't feel snappy. Anybody else noticed something like this?

    Ok, thanks! I will try connecting with him.
     
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    Sold the P650SE, I will be getting this in another month or so.
     
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    Hey Guys,
    So I just got the Sager NP9972-S (Clevo P770Zm) about a month back and the laptop is perfect except for one issue I came about.
    The right click button on the touch pad has suddenly stopped working. The mouse cursor works the left click button works, but the right one just doesn't seem to be budging. It was working the night before but when I put on the laptop the next day, it just wouldn't work.
    I have tried updating the synaptics drivers even re-installing the synaptics drivers, but no change has come of it.
    I could really use your help guys.
    Would really appreciate it.
    My system specs are as follows:
    i7-4790K
    GTX 980M
    16GB DDR3 1866MHZ Kingston HyperX
    2 x 1TB SSHD in RAID 0
    2 x 256GB Micron M2 SATA SSD
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    That's all for now, thanks guys
     
  14. Kommando

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    Does it still "click" like the left mouse button?
    Did you open the case and accidently loosened the mousepad-connector to the mainboard?
    If you didn't, do you feel competent enough to open the case and look for the connector? Maybe it hasn't been fitted correctly by Sager.
     
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    Yes it does, I haven't opened the case since I have got it and don't think I have done anything to loosen the connector. Besides opening up the case are there any other options to try out o fix this issue?
     
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    Okay so, I tried pressing the right click button harder this time...and it seemed to work. Much harder than regular, like slamming the button.
    I just dont know whats wrong inside, or what could have made this happen.
     
  17. Kommando

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    Sounds like you have a hardware problem then, if it only works with slamming hard.
     
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    Ok, is there a guide you can suggest to open up the laptop and fix the problem?
    Thanks for the help.
     
  19. Captain_Bobby

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    If I had this expensive machine for only a month and I believed it was a hardware failure, I'd call the company for an RMA and a return shipping label and have them fix it. Just my thought on the issue. I have a P770ZM and both buttons work smoothly and evenly.

    Bobby
     
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    Hi,
    I am a New member in the Club of P771ZM - G.

    If i set the Dynamik Voltage -80mv (4770k @4.0ghz) the idle voltage is around 0,62v and in stress test 1,09V.
    Stresstest like XTU or Prime runs with no Problem but some times the Book restart if i open a Programm in idle like Core Temp.
    Is the Idle voltage to low or is this a other Problem?

    Gesendet von meinem GT-I9205
     
  21. Mr Najsman

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    After a crash open XTU, if it´s been reset to default it´s probably because of an unstable undervolt.

    Stress tests are not always worst case (at least regarding undervolt stability), some have reported being rock stable in Prime but chrashing when using only Chrome.
    I can run -70 mV on stock clocks but if I underclock to 4.0 GHz on all cores I crash even on -50 mV.
     
  22. Meaker@Sager

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    The adaptive voltage changes the entire voltage curve over all frequencies. This means that one point, a particular frequency and voltage combination will become the bottleneck, this is not always the full load voltage.
     
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  23. Chrack

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    OK,
    I think for 4ghz i set the Voltage to a fix valve like 1,0V.
    Thats stable in 4,5h Prime Custom Run and other Programm in Idle.
    Only negative Part is that the Voltage dont throttle in Idle any more, but with 1V its not a Problem ;-)

    Gesendet von meinem GT-I9205
     
  24. Kommando

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    Try adaptive Mode. It is like fixed Mode, but only for the fastest speed step. All slower steps run @stock values.

    *edit: Since the definitions have been mixed up a bit:
    Static: Same V for all speeds.
    Adaptive: Customize highest speed step only
    Offset: Change all Vs for all speed steps by same amount.
     
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  25. Arshax2000

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    Found this cool video on YouTube...check it out!!
     
  26. danyune

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    Is the 230w sufficient to run a 4790k with 980m? Maybe with a slight OC (few hundred MHz on both CPU and GPU memory)
     
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    any new updates ?
     
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  28. Arshax2000

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    It must be, if the W was to go any higher...the charging block would be massive. But it must be sufficient.
     
  29. Chrack

    Chrack Notebook Consultant

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    Ok, i will try it in XTU.
    Hope Prema make a Mod Bios for the G-Sync Book next time ;-)


    Here some infos and Mods with my 4790K.
    The 4790k that i have was the heat-spreader removed and the Intel thermal paste is changed to Coollaboratory Liquid Pro!!

    First time i have made a stress test with XTU the 4790k reach about 93 degress in the 10min Stress Test @4,5Ghz with 1,121V.
    mmmh normaly thats too much with de-lid and Coollaboratory Liquid Pro.
    I found the Problem ;-)

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    The Headspreader is concave ;-(
    And in the front there is no contact to the cpu cooler.

    So i used sandpaper (600/800/1200) to make a flat surface on the Headspreader.
    After that i polished the Spreader and CPU Cooler.

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    And now the Headspreader and CPU Cooler have good contact.
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    I started XTU 10min Stress Test again with Room Temp of 20 degree.

    4,5GHz @ 1,121V ---- auto fan---- 78 degree !!!!! 73 degree with max fan !!!! (-70mv dynamik Voltage and -10mv Cache Voltage)
    4,0GHz @0,990V ---- auto fan---- 69 degree !!!!! 59 degree with max fan !!!! (-70mv dynamik Voltage and -85mv Cache Voltage)

    And last but not least a 4,5h Prime95 v27,9 run.
    4,0GHz @1,0170V ---- auto fan---- 83 degree !!!!! (-30mv dynamik Voltage and -65mv Cache Voltage)
    [​IMG]

    I think the Temperature for the 4790K is ok for this Notebook, or????
     
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    Very nice results :)
     
  31. superkyle1721

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    Indeed very nice results. Finally someone I can compare temps to ;) I've done the exact same mods to mine. What paste are you using. We are running the same voltages but I think I am about 3 degrees cooler. If you run gelid I'm sure we will be dead even.
     
  32. danyune

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    Are you running the 230w or 330w psu?
     
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    If you are asking me I am running 330 but I also over clock my gpu so it is necessary
     
  34. danyune

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    Sorry, meant to ask anyone that is OC'ing.

    I'm in the process of figuring out what I'm ordering, and I have the option for a higher AC Adapter, but I am unsure of if it is necessary if I minor OC.

    I also figure, I might go for it regardless as it gives a good margin instead of running at near peak power all the time
     
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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...e-welcome-to-the-batcave.767105/#post-9860334
     
  36. superkyle1721

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    It depends on what you mean as a minor OC. If truly minor then you can prob get away with it but you will be pushing the limits. That means you have the chance to seriously shorten the life of the power brick. Plus let's face it a "minor" OC always leads to let's see what it can do....with that said if you plan to OC at all I say just spend the dough for the 330W and be done with it.
     
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    Agree. I bought the 330watt brick in the chance I may overclock in the future if I need to. The difference was $110.00 but figured it was a good choice and it certainly doesn't hurt to have it.

    I upgraded everything else on this beast....may as well with the brick :)
     
  38. Chrack

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    Yes i use the Gelid Extreme too ;-)

    Perhaps i will use Liquid Ultra next time in hope for 5 degree slower again.

    Gesendet von meinem GT-I9205
     
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    Be very careful with using it between the IHS and heat sink. I have tried it twice just out of my own curiosity. Neither time did it work. You use such a thin film of the paste that the contact pressure between the two is not enough and leads to slightly higher temps.
     
  40. danyune

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    Thanks, I did go ahead and set my PSU to 330w on the ordering. Ordered a barebones from RJTech without CPU RAM and SSD, with the 980m. Figured I'd just get the 330w to get healthy headroom for the PSU, hopefully having it last longer than the laptop.
     
  41. Chrack

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    So you mean that LU does not good work with our Head Sink and i use better the Gelid Extreme again?

    Gesendet von meinem GT-I9205
     
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    anyone testet the clevo with an Intel Pentium G3258 (for Budget)
     
  43. superkyle1721

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    CLU might work with yours as tolerances can and will have an effect. I believe one member was able to get it to work on his machine but the contact pressure between the IHS and sink was not sufficient in my case. If you must try it then make sure to be very careful and not move the machine. If the contact pressure is not sufficient then you could leak small beads onto the MB and fry it.
     
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    No issue here with my daily driver cpu @ 4.2ghz and gpu at 1336/2900 :)

    I'm feeling ignored here :oops:, my 70 °C not cool enough? ..walks away slowly with a sad face

    Are there acutally some infos about upcoming Win10 Drivers? So far W10 10612 runs perfectly fine with the W8.1 drivers, but i'm curious if there are some updated drivers, for example "Airplane Drivers" if i install the W8.1 ones under W10 i have to reinstall W10 cause it does something to the registry and system files it seems, that there are absolutely crazy amounts of DCOM and Ownership Errors.
     
  45. superkyle1721

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    Haha didn't mean to say no one else was as low. Meant it as we have the exact same mods done so it is more of a direct comparison..my apologies
     
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    it was a joke :p but tbh i'm too stupid for the Gelid too, i bought the big pack with the spreader and i couldn't get that way i wanted to, so i got the PK3 instead. But @ALL folks out there check out the new " Grizzly Kryonaut" paste on the market, so far the reviews of it are great
     
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    Ah OK.
    If i try it with CLU i will look that i safe the CPU around the headspreader with Gelid Extreme so that no small beads can run outside the headspreader.

    Gesendet von meinem GT-I9205
     
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    If you keep a thin layer surface temperature means that CLU should not move around too much.
     
  49. superkyle1721

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    I have heard good things about the grizzly kryonaut. Too bad there is no way to get it in the U.S. Yet. When it's available I'll do a comparison of it vs gelid
     
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    Is your preference Gelid atm? I have ICD7 but I still ordered Gelid GC Extreme so I could kind of see what works better for me. Heard good things about Gelid so I ordered 3.5g just to play with it.

    I still even have my old old tube of Arctic Ceramique, but I usually use that in older laptops for my friends when I clean out the dust
     
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