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    *** Official Clevo P770ZM / Sager NP9772 and P770ZM-G / Sager NP9773 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HTWingNut, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. abol

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    it would mean pretty poor efficiency if that were true. At any rate I'm not comfortable running the system that close to peak.
     
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    80% peak efficiency is 80 plus levels of efficiency which is not bad for a lower rated unit compared to desktops.
     
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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    Pics of fujipoly placement, and if time allows show/tell us before and after temp difference?
     
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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    [​IMG]

    Muahahahaha. Fixing to be my custom cooler. Now need to find an appropriate cutting board or similar to set it up. Man, noctuanfans are quiet.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Has anyone used a AUO G173HW01 V0 in a clevo before?
     
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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    insyde.PNG unknown.PNG

    this is what i am having problem with. tried driver cd. and earlier somebody posted p750zm driver link and that didn't work also. this is driving me up the wall. heeeeeelp.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I saw the same thing, but don't think it is the airplane driver as that doesn't apply to Win 7. I still don't know what it is either.
     
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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    Windows 8.1 pro. Not 7.
     
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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    OK. I don't think airplane mode is the culprit. As I install I have airplane mode option. But still don't know if function keys work on it since I am in middle of install still.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    My point is I am missing a driver in Windows 7 pro. Same exact thing you are missing. As we both are missing a driver, and the airplane driver doesn't apply to windows 7, it is probably not the airplane driver that is the problem! Mine mentions acpi....
     

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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    So now what? In have Friday off so xotic/sager might get that call from me.
     
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    1080p
     
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    placement no problem, but temps are gonna be tough, since the vRAM doesnt sport a temp sensor what i was planning to do is a test run with pads on the cpu to show u guys the difference ;)

    btw, if u guys want i can post a list of drivers ive installed in a bit, so u can compare and check what ure missing@unknown device :)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    what is the cost of temp probes?
     
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    um....dunno about u but i have no idea how to solder a temp.probe onto the vRAM :D

    anyways, heres an overview of the drivers installed on my machine, maybe thatll help u guys out with ur unknown device:

    [​IMG]
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I was actually referring of a thin metal probe, whether soldered to a thin flat piece of copper or some other manner that can be surrounded by the thermal pad without decreasing heat transfer to the heatsink during testing, placed between the vram and the thermal pad or vram and heatsink even if a flat piece of copper, connected to something that can measure the temperature.

    Edit: I never installed the Intel Rapid Speed driver and maybe some other Intel driver. Could be that (even though not currently applicable in my setup.)
     
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    IRST = rapid storage, NOT rapid start :)
    MEI = Management Engine Interface
     
  18. superkyle1721

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    So apparently the Samsung 951 won't be out until June or July? That's slightly disappointing I was thinking it was much sooner. I know it's insanly fast but I may just go ahead with the 941 and sell it when I buy the 951.
     
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    well if its really summer now then u might just go for a mushkin hyperion instead of the 951 ;)

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah according to a few different sources it is in the first stage of production testing with a public release planed for middle of the year. I'll ready up on what you posted but I've always been a Samsung drive fan. I guess mainly bc I've never had a single one crash on me.
     
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    So when is the mushkin drive coming out? And at what price point? I'm keeping an eye out for "cheap" 1TB M.2 drives, but no such things yet
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I got the mei, just never had a reason to learn the contraction on IRST... ah well. Thank you for the correction.
     
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    cheap means sata M.2 at this point in time and as such, u might just go with a 2.5 inch drive, save money and get the same performance. u cant have a 350K iops drive for 50 bucks, so lets stay realistic here ;)

    ETA is this summer, pricing still tbd

    @ajc9988: IRST is super important when it comes to SSD performance. always make sure to have the latest compatible IRST version installed to get the most out of your flash storage drive!
     
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    There are no hard set price points for either drive I don't think but from the estimations it seems like $1 per Gb is the going rate at least up to the 256Gb. The 500GB and 1TB might be cheaper but I would still expect nothing cheaper than around $500 for a 1 TB at launch
     
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    I still don't have an SSD :-(
     
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    well in THAT case....nevermind :D
     
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    Does anyone have any pictures of how to open it up? Or is it pretty straight forward? I've opened up many laptops previously so I'm not too worried, but I read there are clips underneath to remove the keyboard.

    Does anyone have any pics of that?
     
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    well, I wanted to save the 2.5" spots for HDDs if possible to store data I work with on them... But it seems as no one is making 1TB M.2s, that I'll just keep my current 0.5T SSD
     
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    patience, young padawan, theyll be here soon enough :)
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    search for my earlier post linking to the service manual.
     
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    So, guys, I need your advice (and later on a bit of help ;)).

    I still haven't ordered my Batman (for reasons that don't belong here :p well, sort of :D), and when checking the chosen reseller's website I realize that the price has risen abt 120€ from last week's. So, aiming to reduce the now over budget price, I'm considering buying it without SO (or perhaps a Linux, which they offer to install for free). My question is: is it easy to install a Windows from scracth in the Batman? Is it easy to do it dual-boot, with the preinstalled Linux and a new Windows? Which Windows would you choose, Win7 or Win8?

    My experience installing SOs from zero is, well, almost zero :D
     
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    Installing OSes from scratch are fairly self-explanatory. Make sure you have driver's ready for install on a thumb drive before you begin. If you need more info on Linux/Windows dual boot, cruise to the P750ZM forum where somewhere referenced a guide to setting it up. Further, it is a matter of opinion. I am on Windows 7 and love it. Others are on Windows 8. Windows 8 has some great advancements on operating which are under the hood so to speak. Either way, Microsoft will allow a free upgrade to Windows 10 for 1 year from release this fall, so go with the cheaper of the two in my opinion. Personally, I recommend getting professional edition or above. If you use Windows Media Center, it is free in Win 7 and you have to pay for it in Win 8. Either way, you will probably have to purchase it for Windows 10. Just a question of when you can better afford it if you need it for extender with your 360 or xbox one or other devices.
     
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    Got it thanks.
    Linking here for others: http://repo.palkeo.com/clevo-mirror/P770ZM/

    Edit:

    @ajc9988
    Rummaging through your previous posts I saw your posts on Nvidia disabling OCing on newer GPUs. How is OCing done on the P770ZM? Just Vbios modding?

    Edit edit:

    I forgot to mention that I just bought a P770ZM and everything should be getting to me next week. Good times ahead.
     
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  34. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    I believe the disabling is based on the driver version. If you want to still be able to OC it do not update to the latest drivers.
     
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    Its still recommended to use Prema's Vmod though right?
     
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    I don't believe it's ever been recommended to do so as a rule, only if you wanted to unlock the extras it gives you. If you don't plan on using the extras then it would be recommended not to do so.
     
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    with regards to this topic, i would also like to post this here:

    ATTENTION NOTEBOOK ENTHUSIASTS!!!


    Nvidia has decided to block overclocking on their mobile GPUs starting with the 347.xx driver series, calling it a "bug" that was corrected!


    If you find this as unacceptable as I do, please take part in the following petition started by our follow NBR brother iata and survey by MySn in order to bring this development to a halt! Otherwise, machines like The Batman will NOT be developed anymore in the coming years, due to (understandable) lack in mobile enthusiast hardware!

    Thank you in advance, much appreciated!

    @Phawx: backup your current vbios by using gpu-z, if u decide to flash prema´s vbios mod. also make sure to uninstall all display drivers before flashing :) but even if u dont use his mod, ull still be able to oc when on 344.xx and 346.xx drivers to a certain amount.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    You have a choice of about three custom bios on the internet to unlock overclocking beyond 135mhz: Premamod (primarily the clevo bios guru), Svet7 (the msi guy), and one other (forgot his tag but I think he is alienware but may be asus). Anyways, you then need a driver before the 347 version (which after that locks OC even of the 135mhz). I then use nvidia inspector for the overclock. I currently have my video card to stock but have had it over 400mhz overclock just to see what it could do. The premamod vbios locks out testing with furmark and msi kombuster so as not to fry the card, locks the max temp to 87 deg. and the max voltage to 1.2V for safety purposes. That was one of the primary considerations on my choice of his vbios (that and extensive testing). Currently, unfortunately, he does not have undervolting enabled, but hopefully will soon, that way to run at stock but lower temps. Be careful if you overclock the vram as there is no integrated temp sensor. Don't want to fry that!

    Other than that, there are custom drivers that are being made to enable OC, search around these forums and you can find them! Also, remember, running the card over specified limits can shorten the life of your hardware and void warranties. Verify the max allowed for the card by spec before beginning ANY overclocking of components. Further, remember that overclocking (if overvolting) can have a collateral effect on other components (i.e. motherboard). Perform such actions AT YOUR OWN RISK AND LIABILITY. I DO NOT CONDONE OVERCLOCKING NOR AM I RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY RAMIFICATIONS OF YOUR ACTIONS. I DO NOT REPRESENT NOR WARRANT ANY BIOS, VBIOS, OR SOFTWARE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN ANY DISCUSSIONS ON THIS THREAD OR FORUM IN ANY MANNER. ANYTHING THAT IS LINKED IS PRESENTED "AS IS" WITH ALL FAULTS AND IS USED AT YOUR OWN RISK.
     
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    :) No worries. I've had a Toshiba Qosmio with a 670m that I overclocked previously with Nvidia Inspector. I'll probably wait on doing the vbios mod in the beginning and see what I can get out of the P770zm.

    Aside from the Vbios mod, just a general BIOS mod, is there anything that is necessary outside of RAM timings? Nothing to do with IRST? That is to say, because it's Z97 it has the latest version of IRST.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    You don't need a bios mod for ram timings unless you have a ****ty pair of value ram. It can be done in XTU
     
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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    I just want to undervolt. No way of undervolting without custom bios? I don't want to void my warranty.
     
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    undervolting doesnt void ur warranty because it doesnt harm ur hardware in any way possible, right the opposite :) atm there is no possibility to undervolt the gpu aside from flashing a modded vbios.
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    Not yet... give it time. Eventually the custom bios will support undervolting (which is what I want to do with mine)!
     
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    Yeah but I'm pretty sure custom vbios voids it.
     
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    Not if it's sent back in with a stock BIOS, but a modded BIOS may be to blame for GPU issues if RMA'd for that and so if it shows up in the ship it's possible that it would be voided.
     
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    i was just referring to the undervolting per se, not the modded vbios :)
     
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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    What about custom vbios? I just want to undervolt. Don't need extra fps. Trying to keep my batman under Mr. Freeze's thumb.
     
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    I would have to go with not doing so if you're worried about warranty.
     
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    dream wrecker! lol.
     
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    pukemon are you unplugged?

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    btw peeps, i think that whine started last night but went away. just fired up batman and i was definitely hearing it. if i had to guess from all the angles i just listened to it seems to happen when fan is spinning at lower speeds. when not spinning or ramping up i don't hear it. seems to come from left and right side. definitely not psu.

    kinda sounds like interference when listening to headphones. perhaps it's the speakers? btw, still amazed at how awesome batman speakers sound. the bass that the cute little subwoofer puts out is laughable but still loads better than any laptop speakers i've heard before.
     
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