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    *** Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by ProFX, May 18, 2015.

  1. ajc9988

    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    He is! They will have it before he does public release and the wait times for public release are going to get longer. Since you already ordered, just ask. Happy coincidence! :)
     
  2. CaptainDM

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    Dang.. wish I could order still waiting for 4K 17" display, and dang Alienware has a 17" 4K IGZO laptop already.... since it's IGZO i'm assuming that it's a sharp Display
     
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    Thank you! :)

    There is another thing I did want to check into. On the P870dm thread and based on my own knowledge, the x6 should ship with the 180w version of the 980. Apparently though, on my order it is the 200w version, and I did confirm with eurocom that it is actually the 200w 980 just incase of typo. By any chance I could actually get the 200w version with the beefier VRMs?
     
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    Something is amiss. The X6 (P770DM) only lists a 980M no 980.
    http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(1,332,0)ec
     
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    Pre ordered mine in october. They had it up at that time. It is no longer available on their website for some reason.
     
  6. Bullrun

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    Interesting. You may have a Frakenbat. :D
     
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    :p
     
  8. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    It's going to be a P775DM that has the 980 in it. So it is a slightly different model, and very possibly a separately listed model.
     
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    Yep, but I asked eurocom, apparently my model its the P771DM? or P770DM, I cant remember which one was it. Oh well, it shouldnt a huge difference. Just larger GPU areas to accommodate the 980.
     
  10. ajc9988

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    Listen to pat! He knows better! Plus, I have not seen a second heatsink available for the zm/dm. In fact, in a previous conversation, I was told the 775s heatsink had thicker fins. It is made to accommodate the 980s except for the 200W (excluding of shaped ones). So don't get too excited yet. With expected timeline, it would be either the 775 or they have a new heatsink forthcoming.
     
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    Yeah, the 980 does require more space to it. And it also is modified to have better cooling to accommodate the beefier card.
     
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    Oh ok. I didnt mean to not listen to pat. I was just wondering because the info was quite confusing. Either way, thank you guys for the help. I think it will be a modded p770dm or a p775dm. By the way, its the P870DM the only model with 980 200w?
     
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    ajc9988 Death by a thousand paper cuts

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    I've checked the space and layout pictures of the other 980 variant forthcoming. It appears to be able to fit in a zm/dm, which also has a 4 pin power connector by the cmos battery, where it would need to connect to a 980 card. But without the additional cooling, it would be knee capped... Still requires a new heatsink that Clevo won't release if it can't deal with the heat. So, to others, don't get excited unless you make heatsinks or will pay someone to design a custom one. We have to wait to discover official support. (Trying to manage expectations).

    Edit: in part a response, in part to build on, what you said @pat@XOTICPC.

    Edit 2: the 870dm is the only known model currently sporting the 200W in the Clevo lineup
     
  14. CaptainDM

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    1) What is the difference between the P75 0DM and the P75 1DM ?


    You know there has been a lot of questions regarding this question, and shoot I should of posted this answer in the original post for that batman 2.0 ;)

    The difference is the P75 0DM is the U.S Verison. The P75 1DM is an international version, that's the only difference. Mainly power specs..
     
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    Then that's a Sky X9, not X6. The x9 is a Clevo P870DM.
     
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    No, its a x6.

    Same thing for the p77x?
     
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    The X6 is a Clevo P770DM, and doesn't accept a desktop 980. Therefore this cannot be a X6.

    You might be thinking of their upcoming Sky DLX7, which would appear to be a Clevo P775DM.

    But what you're talking about is not an X6.
     
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    What?

    On my order it says x6.....

    Though it might be that model.
     
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    Then that clearly was a mistake. The X6 (P770DM) doesn't have an option for a desktop 980.

    Therefore, you either ordered a X6 with a 980M, a DLX7 (P775DM) with a desktop 980 or a X9 with a desktop 980.

    There are no other possibilities. You can't get a X6 with a 980.
     
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    My order have a 1080p screen, I did want a 4k screen but at the time of my pre ordering, it wasnt available. So yeah, oh well. My order ticket did says a x6, but I ordered it in october. So probably just a typo.
     
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    For gaming the 1080p is a better option anyway.
     
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    Why is that? Is it because a single 980 is not strong enough to power the 4k? or the fact that laptop 4k's image qualities are less than great?
     
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    since u ordered so early in october, they probably didnt have any more details yet on the P775DM, considering its only gonna be shipping starting at the end of this month, if not beginning of december.

    p770dm - sky x6 - 980M only
    p775dm - sky dlx7 - 980M and 980 180W
    p870dm - sky x9 - 980M sli and 980 200W

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    I know what your'e talking about Eurocom did initially offer the x6 with a desktop 980 i saw it myself and assumed they switched out the p770 base for the p775,however it seemed to be a mistake that they fixed not long after.
     
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    Because even a desktop 980 can't run modern games fluently at ultra settings at 4K (or at least not all of them). Which means that you'll usually scale down your 4K display to 1080p. The problem is then that Windows has (still) scaling issues, and games can apparently look funny at times.

    That being said, the 4K displays are often better than the 1080p displays (better colour gamuts, etc.) so there is a benefit to them. This is usually beneficial to people who work with video and photo editing. But for gaming, where a 100% colour-accurate display isn't necessary, a 1080p panel is often a better choice.
     
  26. Asting

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    Hi guys!
    Who can tell me, does Clevo 775DM contains light strip at the front under keyboard similar to 770DM or any additional lights on chassis(like 870DM on the top of cap) ?
     
  27. Ramzay

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    Any more (new?) issues with Windows 10? Bugs, games that don't work properly, etc.?

    I know that certain Alienware and Clevo machines (mostly older ones) have had their LCD fried due to a combination of NVIDIA drivers, Windows 10 and certain other factors, but the new Clevo machines seem to be doing ok.
     
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    On two occasions I've booted up my machine, I think from hibernation, and I have had a fuzzy screen. Has gone away by rebooting. Haven't worked out why.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
     
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    Damnit! My speakers are popping and cracling on bassy notes, anyone with similar issues? Laptop's 20 days old
     
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    I believe I had the same issue as you, it may be NVIDIA driver issue, are you using 354.06 by chance (I have the p750DM, 4K g-sync, GTX 980m)? That is the driver I was using; I upgraded to 354.35 (which I got from Sager's site) and it seems to be better (no recurrence yet since I installed yesterday 11/9). If it recurs with this driver, I will update.
     
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    Do have the bass pumped up / using the Creative software? If so that´s normal.
     
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    Even on not so high volumes?
     
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    IIRC, from around 80% volume and up with a mild bass boost on Creative software. Can´t confirm now ´cause i stopped using that software a long time ago - i´m mostly on external speakers or headphones.
     
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    Yes, the difference is cosmetic, exhaust grilles. That's all. The same internals.
     
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    I can't touch the keyboard, it's very hot!. Under Cinebench r15 temp reaches 90c, with cpu-z and real temp 85c, on idle arround 40 to 45c, is this normal?
    P770DM-G from Eurocom (Sky x6).
     
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    Yes same here, and the sound quality also is not that good, I assume its maybe from the realtek driver, maybe we need to change it with another version. (mine is 6.0.1.7629)
     
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    It was about 78F/(25C) at the time when I did that and tried it again recently from a cold start @4GHZ for 4 cores and the bench result was: maximum processor frequency of 3.99ghz and highest cpu temperature of 78C from a cold start. I think the cold start and outdoor /indoor temps made a difference. Like before it was done with the auto fan profile setting and high performance windows power settings.
     
  38. Ramzay

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    Those idle temps look normal, cinebench looks a bit hot.

    The P750ZM (Eurocom P5 Pro) I previously had got a bit warm/hot under load (the keyboard got to 40C), but it wasn't hot to the point I couldn't touch it.

    This is worrying if your keyboard is so hot you can't touch it. Making me nervous, as a hot keyboard is one of those things I simply will not tolerate on a laptop.

    Have you tried undervolting using Intel XTU?
     
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    How much does it help to get some kind of laptop cooling pad? for keyboard temps
     
  40. Debaiky

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    Not yet, I still work under stock, didn't OC any yet, which makes this temps weird to me.
    How did u measure the keyboard temp?
     
  41. Shark00n

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    Well, I recorded a video of my issue.
    It seems like it's intermittent. I was playing Mad Max for about 2 hours and only noticed it in the last 15minutes. Upon restarting the game i got HORRIBLE crackling in the same title screen that's shown in the video. The second time I tried it (while recording the video) it was still bad but not as bad.

    https://vid.me/4NOP

    If I wait a few minutes before launching the game again everything is back to normal.
    Bass boosts are disabled on the Creative software. I don't thing it's a driver problem, do you guys?
     
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    Using an infrared gun. I use a Sainsonic.
     
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    Thank you, but what's your temps right now, are you oc the machine or still n stocking?

    I'm thinking to return the machine as that much heat n the keyboard don't think its normal.

    Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk
     
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    That´s bad, doesn´t seem software related.... Have you tried all the Control Center audio output options?
     
  45. Shark00n

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    No, controlcenter.exe stops working everytime I try to open it.

    *EDIT - reinstalled it again and now it seems to be running fine. No difference on with the sound options.
     
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    Just wanted to let everyone know that it looks like Nvidia has finally added the 980m id to the official drivers. Was able to install 358.91 without any modding.
     
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    Ha, was just talking about that in some other thread and I still can't install those drivers.

    Where did you download them from?

    LE: This is what I get when trying to scan for compatible hardware on the geforce website

    Auto-Detect Your GPU
    [​IMG]
    Let us automatically detect your GPU and operating system


    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    Please wait while we check your system for NVIDIA products




    How this works >
    [​IMG]
    GeForce GTX 980M
    This product has been detected as your primary device

    Your product manufacturer requires you to download a driver for your device from their website
     
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    I did that like 4 or 5 times, even on geforce.com website. Same thing, no compatible hardware.

    Am I part of the unlucky ones?
     
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    Hey,

    I am considering purchasing one of these machines and I had a couple questions (if you don't mind).
    1. I read that using two PCIe SSDs in the M.2 slots is not possible due to an issue somewhere (BIOS or hardware?). I didn't see any resolution to that, I'm assuming this is still an open thing? Probably not a big deal, I just wanted to get all the facts since it's a large purchase for me.
    2. Is it possible to tweak the keyboard backlight in Linux? I'd only really want white probably so if I could avoid the different colors with the keyboard backlight, I'd like that best. (I generally work on Linux and am looking more for a mobile workstation with very high performance more than a gaming rig).
    Thanks!
     
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