*** Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge ***

This looks the same as the P770DM to me.
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Xplorer_Xtreme_X7-100_G-Sync_Gaming_Laptop

 

I assume it's a re-branding. Few seem to actually manufacture the hardware.

 

I opted for Intel WiFi just for this reason. I wish I had caught the

I had similar install issues with both Win10 and Ubuntu, and gave up on USB installs. I had to burn the ISOs to DVDs to do the install, and that also allowed me to keep it in UEFI mode.

 

Dittos. It takes for ever to get to the grub boot menu, same for booting straight to winders.

I've been chalking it up to the SM951 being OEM drives and mine being AHCI.

 

Does Clevo put out BIOS updates, or should I not expect any.

 

Agreed.

@2bad0 what say you - http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=810&lang=en

 

Was anyone able to install Windows 7 in UEFI mode? I was only able to do it with UEFI disabled.
With UEFI enabled, I can boot from USB drive and start installation, but after all the files are copied to HDD and the system reboots, it freezes at black screen with windows logo "Starting Windows".
P.S. Secure boot disabled.
Any input is greatly appreciated.

 

Was referring to this one,but seeing they also have the DM,i guess i answered my question.Its an msi chasis or not
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Fangbook_4_Xtreme_G-SYNC_200_Gaming_Laptop

 

980M, 6700K, and a 150W adaptor?

 

Well it's a "nice" method to prevent users from overclocking, i guess.

 

Yes and to prevent them from purchasing it as well double edge blade

 

Clevo are the only producers of a desktop CPU notebook so that makes it easy.

As for the PSU, I would guess a listing error if it says 150W.

 

Seems odd,keyboard design case everything spells MSI,thats what confused me.Thanks for clearing up the confusion though

 

Could be they uploaded the wrong pictures *shrug* but what I say applies, desktop CPU = clevo/sager for now at least.

 

Not sure if it helps, but I installed Win10 and Ubuntu in EUFI mode by using DVDs to install from. USB just would not work. Had to run the DVD cables in to the HDD SATA ports; it was pretty ghetto.

 

read in another thread about an upcoming desktop cpu msi machine, so there might actually be something to it...

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yep it's a bug but you can prevent it, set the settings you want in XTU like normal, then start Throttlestop 8.0 beta 4 and activate it with the "Set Multiplier" e.g. 42 T set in the left field and click "Turn on" in the bottom right, boom sticks even when gaming or in my case benching.

Edit: and btw only Offset Voltage works in XTU, i tried static voltage but it doesn't to anything, same with adaptive i thought it works now after it didn't work on the ZM machines.

 

I used these steps to install Win10 on my P771DM, worked great.




I have a fix for you that uses a secondary computer which you would need to copy over drivers ect anyway right?

My Build is a Gigabyte z170 Gaming 7 Mobo with i7-6700K CPU

*1. Install your SATA HD or SSD in another computer, (old rig perhaps?)

*2. On this other computer, boot from your WIN7 Installer USB or CD. (90% of the time will recognize the disk to install windows)

*3. Begin your Windows Install.

*4. Only run the first portion of your Windows 7 install, the portion while you are booted from the USB.

*5. Prevent the computer from rebooting, soon as it shuts down cut power.

*6. Remove Sata drive from the old PC and Install it in your z170 system.

*7. Boot up your New z170 system selecting the Drive you just set up if you have multiple installed, the drive is primed to accept whatever system it boots into and the z170 chipset/win7 will auto-update registry to match.

Viala! The z170 chipset recognizes all the drives without issue in the bios and will even try to boot from them, its the win7 installer that doesn't recognize the drives through the z170 system. I have done this on 4 z170 systems now and it works every time.

 

Thank you! It's working now!


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You said you installed win10, but instructions are for win7. What did you install?
I have no problems when installing win10 in UEFI, and I integrated USB 3.0 drivers with win7 ISO, so I can boot from USB drive and start win7 installation. The problem happens after all files are copied from USB to HDD and win7 tries to boot from HDD. It freezes at "Starting Windows" screen.
I assume starting installation on another machine won't help me as it will still freeze once I put HDD back in "Batman".
The win7 ISO itself is fine. Checksum matches and I could install from it to another machine

 

I used those same instructions to get Win7 going on my machine. My Win7 could not get past the initial installation phase at all, regardless of what I did (including adding the USB drivers to the ISO). After I used the other PC trick and put the HDD back into the Batman, Win7 booted perfectly fine, and then I used the "Free upgrade" to move to Windows 10.

"I assume starting installation on another machine won't help me as it will still freeze once I put HDD back in "Batman".
- You should try it out, it honestly only took me like 10-15 min. Bear in mind that what I did was use a stock Win7 ISO to do this, maybe your custom ISO with special USB drivers are breaking your installation, so if you used the trick I copy-pasted, it might just work.

 

Thank you, I will try.
But are you sure that win7 has installed in UEFI mode on GPT partition?
Could it be the case that you installed it on MBR?

 

How is the screen on these? It's the LG LP173WF4-SPD1 correct? Reviews peg it as a mid-level IPS screen, not terrible but not amazing either. The screen is very important to me as i'll be watching a lot of TV, movies, sports, etc on my laptop. What do you guys think of it?

 

All details here

 

It's UEFI CSM, most likely, with gpt (I've done that before, but not pure uefi)

 

I don't see CMS option in my p750dm BIOS. I can only disable UEFI altogether.

 

I think enabling CSM is the key to installing win7 in UEFO mode. I noticed on another machine I can install win7 only with CSM enabled.
However, I don't see CSM option in P750DM BIOS.
Does anyone know how to enable CSM for this machine?
My goal is to create dualboot configuration with both Win10 and Win7 enabled. without the need change BIOS parameters each time you need to switch OS.

 

I had to switch each time in bios when I did it...

 

Does anyone know if this laptop is available to order from anywhere with the new Samsung 950 pro m.2 that came out just a day ago?

Also does anyone have experience doing Raid 0 with the samsung m.2's? Is it stable? Sorry but I have no experience with it and can't find much on google thus far. Thanks

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Hi and welcome to nbr

The Samsung 950 isn't quite ready to go yet, still working with drivers and it's not stable yet or ready for integration. Shouldn't be too long now however.

There is a stability issue we encountered with RAID SM951 M.2 and because of this we are currently discussing removing the option to configure a PCIe M.2 drive in the second M.2 slot.

Before anyone jumps on this and says "what's your proof" or "mine works fine" ;-) , we have encountered issues and made Clevo aware of this. Their is work in progress to resolve this problem, that's all I can really say for now.

I'm aware that people have released benchmarks of RAID 0 SM951 and so we know that it can work, but I would personally strongly advise against installing two PCIe drives in the M.2 slots. We are advising our customers in the same manner.

 

@XMG, just to clarify, is this warning for any PCIe M.2 drives, the SM951 only,or will this include the 950 pro once it comes out, too?

 

@XMG could that be the issue Win 8.1 for example freezes randomly in my case?

 

Btw, click the 5.0 in my signature or go to the P750ZM thread to see a benchmark over 5.0GHz at 68F ambient.

 

dude you totally destroyed everybody well done dude well done, dishing out the deeps

 

This is a temporary warning and specifically for any drive which uses PCIe lanes. In the Px51Rx models, there is a similar issue where if you install a PCIe in the first M.2 slot you can't run any drive in the second slot. This is a bit different in the P7xxDM, because you can run 2x non PCIe fine and [ 1x PCie + 1x non PCIe ].

There will be a fix for this, hence "temporary warning" for the near future.

Not sure mate, looks like you only have one PCIe drive which wouldn't cause problems - we only see issues with two PCIe drives. But if it's not Windows itself or your CPU OC then I would check your memory - we pulled 8GB Hyper-X 2400MHz SODIMMs because we encountered stability issues, atm we only offer 4GB SODIMM Hyper-X 2400MHz. Though testing is currently underway and it's looking better now.

 

nah was purely stock, W10 works without any issues at all besides it's yeah.... W10, would have prefered W8.1

 

Hi all,

I posted a separate thread asking for opinions about Asus vs. Alienware vs. Clevo, and based on feedback there I decided to look at Clevo. Since then, I've read EVERY post on this thread, and have found it incredibly helpful so a huge "thank you" to everyone (including where "Batman" came from). I have to save up a few paychecks, so I'm going to wait for the P775 and the Sammy 950's.

While Clevos are easy to upgrade, I'm way more interested in how easy they are to REPAIR if just a single component fails. I've used my current laptop for 7 years without upgrading, and I'll probably use my new Clevo for that long without upgrading it. But I do want to be able to fix it easily if something fails, because fixing my current one has been a PAIN. Besides, the window for upgrades is limited as I imagine laptops 7 years from now will be dramatically different (e.g., will MXM format will be around in 7 years?).

Just a couple of lingering questions:
1. Still debating between Xotic PC vs. Mythlogic as vendors. Any opinions?
2. Is there any way to print out the entire thread all at once? I want to remember some of the great tips and info, but the idea of clicking and scrolling through 188 pages makes my eyes bleed.
3. For the Sammy 950, I'm leaning towards a single larger drive rather than 2 in RAID 0 based on the benchmarks by Tom's Hardware. Anyone know of reviews that contradict this and recommend RAID 0 instead? Deleted...XMG's input is consistent with what I've read elsewhere. Basically, no PCIe/NVMe RAID for now.

Thanks,


EDIT: Just now reading posts by XMG and others about the 950's in RAID. Not sure if it's the same issue, but read about the install, RAID, and performance issues with the Intel RST vs. native Sammy NVMe driver in the Tom's Hardware review (esp. Installation Notes on Page 2 and 1st paragraph on page 5). Definitely would not install 950's in RAID unless a fix is released.
( http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-950-pro-ssd,4313-2.html)

 

Any hints on when we'll be able to update the nvidia drivers? New ones still don't recognize the hardware...

 

1. Mythlogic is a Prema partner (don't think Xotic is yet). This means a customized BIOS/UEFI. Factor if you like controls like a desktop you built yourself.
2. No idea.
3. Raid 0 still has issues with m.2, as just discussed. Since the drives are new, look it up right before your purchase.

As for the P775DM - Wingman is going to be AWESOME. No one knows how long MXM 3.0b will last. Possibly only a gen or 2 more. Also, look at the P870DM as well!

 

What do you guys think will Nvidia's new pascal chip fit the batman 2.0? I wonder if it will require a new Motherboard with all the talk of NVLink. Thoughts appreciated

Also think we could run an 8 core skylake if ones comes out in the spring?

*Waiting for 17" 4K GLOSSY
Your phones are glossy, TV is glossy, tablets are glossy, why not your laptop!
yeah yea... just turn off the lights. Glossy will always look better

 

unless you have other info than I've seen, there will be nothing more than quad core skylake CPUs until 2017.

 

If you need help with any questions, feel free to reach out to me or Alex and we'll be glad to help.

 

I can certainly chime in regards to Mythlogic as the vendor. Though I've certainly heard great things about Xotic, my personal experience with Mythlogic and the purchase of my 770DM has been extraordinary from start to finish and definitely worth maybe a little extra build time (it's the only thing I've ever heard anyone complain about, though to me it's a plus because they provide tons of benchmarks with the machine just showing you what was taking place during that time). I highly recommend them!

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Hi all,
Have to say, this a great thread, thanks to all who've contributed, and now I have my own 'Batman 2.0' P771DM-G, it's time for a question or two.
I ordered it without an OS and 'main' drive (couldn't order without a drive at all, so just chose the cheapest available - 500GB H/D) and have now removed that HD, put in a 256GB SM951 (Nvme) and installed Win 8.1. Everything went fine with the OS, started to install drivers in the order stated in the User Manual, but came to a halt with the Touchpad driver, which just fails.
Just wondered if anyone else has come across this and how to get round it?
Also, what HD/SSD mounting 'bits' should be included with the laptop. From what I've seen there should be a couple of 'pads' for the M2 drives and mylar sleeves and screws for the 2.5" drive slots.
Many thanks.

 

For the Touchpaddriver: Did you try installing the Driver provided by Win 8.1? There were several issues with Touchpaddrivers under Win 10 which could be solved by just letting Windows installing the driver and it often worked out. May be you give it a try?

In the worst case nothing will happen!

 

@XMG @pat@XOTICPC guys do i really need a ID 1617 980M now for Gsync to work? I just got contacted from my reseller again after sending them some Information about the ID 1617 Gsync capable 980M and my 13D7 i have and can't get Gsync to work, and they state that they opened up and installed some of their P750DM-G's and every single on of them is equipped with a 13D7 980M and Gsync is working they even stated even Clevo themselfes said they don't know about that issue. Do i have some chances to get Gsync finally working?

 

Alight it's time to Chime in! What's the fastest Batman 2.0 running at 100% stable?
and any thoughts on pascal for the batman 2.0? It seems like it would require a whole new motherboard at least with all the talk of nvlink, though perhaps nvidia will make a compatible MXM 3.0 type B verison for laptops.

What's the highest wattage of processor the batman can run? 140 watts?

 

So, Pascal won't need nvlink unless you want the faster connection than pcie 3. It can work without it though.

There should be a power connector in the machine providing about 50W extra, so the 150W seems right. If the mobile cards have hbm2 instead of the new ddr5 standard (provides 12000mhz effective instead of 5000 and will be on lower end cards next year), then you will need a new heatsink.
As for the fastest, that is relative and always ask what, if any, mods were made!

 

this is some weird info. according to prema u absolutely NEED the 1617 cards for gsync to work.

fastest batman 2.0 as in benchmarks? well it sure would be nice to see some overclocking results here from owners

guys, theres no sense in asking for details pertaining to pascal. NO ONE yet knows, whether or not machine xyz will be compatible with pascal, what form factor mobile cards will have, what kinda tdp, etc. so u might as well ask: whos gonna be the next us president? how is he/she gonna treat immigration?
those kinda questions dont make sense, cuz one might as well get a crystal ball and make some wild guesses as to the future

top cpu for the 1151 socket is the 6700k rated at 91W tdp.

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They may have opened it up with a driver to save on their asinine divide, while still requiring G enabled bios and approved screens. Here's hoping...