*** Official Clevo P67xRP6-G/P67xRS-G (Sager NP8172/8173) Owner's Lounge ***

You might want to check your temps first. Always good to repaste before you do anything.

 

Temps are a 60C on the gpu even after several benchmarks

 

Are you sure you are running in dGPU rather than MSHYBRID mode? That would obviously affect performance.

 

Yeah i saw that and changed it an hour ago. Thaught i allready did that but i guess i didnt. Performance is still a tad low, but acceptable now.

Was playing Fallout 4 with mshybrid activated, after 5 minutes with everything on ultra the pc just shut down and rebooted. That was weird, could it be a bad pastejob?

 

Check temperatures I guess. It should not shut down unless you are getting awfully close to 100 degrees. Most people here report temperatures in the 80s under load. So run some stress tests and see, and if your temperatures creep into the 90s then yeah, probably.

 

Could be a driver issue as well with fan controls, I have done a bunch of full load sessions and my GPU is barely pushing 80C with standard paste, of course it also sounds like a small wind tunnel at that point.

 

If you really want to see how far your benchmarks can go I would make sure Windows and NVCP are set to maximum performance in power settings and then change NVCP to performance which overrides the 3d settings. I was also getting a small boost when I ran Firestrike after my notebook was off/very cool, turning off any extra programs I had running in the background and maybe even Fn+1 for max fan.

Did you turn off all of the Windows 10 telemetry stuff? That might also be causing some loss to performance.

 

What windows Telemtry stuff? Is there more things i can turn on/off/remove that will increase the performance?

Its my first gaming notebook, so im a noob! Give me all your knowlege nao!

 

Temps are rly weird, because in all my heavy gaming sessions, benchmarks etc the higest temperature i ever saw was 69C. I do have a Thermaltake 23lx cooling pad under it all the time tho, and a slight overclock on the gpu.

This laptop is confusing sometimes. It has its quirks.. like that 1 time yesterday when it decided to reboot 5 minutes in to Fallout 4. After that i wasnt able to get more then 38fps tops in fallout 4, no matter what video settings i used. And this morning when i turned it on, it didnt boot at all. All i got was a black screen. I had to press the powerbuttun to force it to shut down, then press the powerbutton again to get a normal boot. THEN when i tried Fallout 4 at max 1080p settings i get a stable 75fps ingame fallout 4 with temps at 66C max running for 30-40 minutes straight without even so much as a single microstutter...

So confusing...

Disclaimer: (Im norwegian, thats why my english isnt all that top notch)

 

A few things...

1.) here is how to remove a lot of the windows 10 telemetry and spyware. It took me an hour or two http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nbr-windows-10-clean-installation-guide.781178/

2.) does your notebook cooler have a fan? Try turning it off. I tried my cooler with fans on and it got me slightly worse performance when bench marking because I think the airflow was messing with the fans. I know it sounds counter intuitive. The cooling is very good in the notebook so all you have to really do is elevate the notebook. Even with expensive coolers some other people got the same temp drop as elevating notebook.

3.) check out what the error log says for fallout 4 after a crash

4.) run hwmonitor and tell us the cpu/gpu voltage range as well as the temp range. Maybe play fallout4 for a few minutes while running it

5.) when you overclocked your gpu did you also increase the memory? It sounds like it's not stable

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1. ty ill do some of the things in that list, but i dont wana reinstall windows at this point.
2. Yeah its a cooler with a fan. It didnt make any difference in the benchmarking tho. i tried turning it on and off.
3 i didnt get a error message, it simply gave me a black screen and shut down.
4 i will try that asap!
5 yeah i increased the memory a tiny bit aswell. not by much tho. Does the memory clock speed and gpu clock speed work together somehow?


One more thing, now it did it again! Was gone for 2-3 hours from my pc, then when i booted it it showed me the Multicom logo then just went straight to a black screen with nothing happening. I once again had to hold the powerbutton down to forcibly shut it down then boot again. Allso what allways happen right before it starts loading windows, it gived this purple flash across the screen.

Something tells me that aint good.

 

Look in the fallout 4 folders and see if there is an error log (usually a text fjle) Try memtest also. Maybe ram issue. Restore gpu to factory settings and see if it happens again.

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There are no folders in there of any kind that contains error messages. I will run a memory test on it tho, thats a good ideah.

By the way, my chipset drivers are the ones that i got from the reseller. Are there newer and better drivers available for the chipset you think?

 

Hey guys, got my P670RS-G from HIDevolution a couple of weeks ago, just been too busy to do a review.

Initial thoughts:
-Definitely a sturdy build, a lot better than I expected. Coming from an Alienware 17 R3, it is definitely comparable, if not, better. However, there are a few issues I have with this. I noticed that the fan grills don't line up with the actual fans, not sure how much of a difference it makes, probably minute, but as an Engineer, kinda bugs me.
-Had a lot of issues with the Clevo Control Center: It wasn't saving my settings, so I had to reinstall a few times, and switch from .81 to .85 back to .81. I don't see any CPU overclocking settings that others have mentioned, just CPU Memory overclocking, so I just removed Control Center, installed XTU and reinstalled Control Center so I could undervolt the CPU -150mV (Definitely helps with temps), still no CPU overclocking features in CC.
-I managed to switch to discrete GPU, overclock the screen to 100hz, and switch to fast sync. Everything is working fine so far, gaming is really good on this thing, however, i'm hoping that the Prema vBios will allow me to overclock better (Can only OC to +50 Mhz core, +100Mhz memory without crashing Fire Strike with CC) temps get up to 80 Celsius gaming/benchmarking with IC thermal paste, not sure if this is normal or if I should repaste. Other than that, no crashes. Also can't wait for the 120hz screens.
-Had a couple driver issues I fixed by installing the latest drivers from the manufactures' sites instead of Clevo or others. Still have a weird issue with my laptop randomly waking up from sleep when the lid is closed, im sure ill figure it out soon, (tried to uncheck all the "allow this device to wake up from sleep" settings, still no luck)
-CPU temps are 45c idle, 75c load (with Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra)
-GPU temps are 49c idle and 77c load (Stock) 50c idle and 80c load (OCed slightly)

Just a few questions, if anyone would happen to know: Any way to get the CPU OC settings in CC? (Tried a few different versions already from different sites), These normal GPU temps? Would I have better luck OCing with Nvidia Inspector? Would switching to a 330W AC adapter help with OCing?

Specs that matter:
i7 6700hq (stock - undervolted -150mV)
16GB DDR4 2400
512GB 950 pro m.2
gtx 1070 (OCed to +50 MHz core, 100 MHz memory)
Some LG screen (OCed to 100 Hz)

 

Recently sold my Alienware 17 R3 with 980m ( did well... bought it for $1500, sold it for $1400, minus 10% ebay fees...) to fund purchase of my Clevo 670... i appreciate your thoughts on build quality as i loved the 17 R3 build as well, except for maybe the soft touch plastics which tended to really absorb skin oils etc. Should get mine tomorrow.

 

Yea, I hated how the R3 after a while, had a spot where your hand rested, I dont think itll be the same with this. There is some light bleeding in a couple of spots, havent been able to take it apart and try to cushion the bezel but will do soon. Its not that bad though

 

Got my P670RS in today. Initial observations: Most everything is fairly accessible, though it's a pain in the you-know-what to have to undo 19 screws to get into the guts. Put a 1 TB Sandisk M.2 drive in and was ready to install Windows, but for some reason the right-side USB port wouldn't recognize the OS installer thumb drive. It did work when connected to the USB hub on my monitor, though, so I was able to install the OS successfully. The port in question otherwise seems to be OK because I was able to connect a keyboard, mouse, and another thumb drive to it, so I have no idea what's going on there.

I still have some configuring and such to do, but I wanted to give a shoutout to @gooface and @south_valhalla for calling attention to a BIOS update for this model. I was having the same issue as south_valhalla where having an external monitor connected in Discrete mode would peg one of the CPU cores at 100%. The new BIOS seems to have fixed it as well as the fan table, as the machine is running noticeably quieter at idle than when it was fresh out of the box. I strongly recommend anyone who has this system to install the update.

 

You cant OC your CPU, thats why the settings are missing.
And your temps are realy high. My cpu idles @ 32°, GPU 41° at Automatic Fan Settings with the XMG EC. Repasted Kryonaut myself. ~50° CPU /52° GPU idletemps with Fans off! ^^
My 1070 can handle -145 Core + 635 Ram. it could go higher but the voltage is locked. We need a prema bios to OC the card further.

cheers.

 

My CPU (6820hk) hits 88c while playing Firza Horizon 3 should I be worried?
All other games barley hit 75-78c.

Normal browsing temps are as low as 30c

 

Damn.. shoulda listened to my gut and did the paste myself instead of paying $35 for hidevolution to do it.. You have any clue if there is a 330w adapter out there, or if the same one that the P775 uses, might work on this model? Just to help with overclocking headroom when prema vbios comes out?

 

The PSU from the P775 won't work as the connector to the notebook is different. 230W should be more than enough anyway since the CPU is only a 45W part.

 

Hope your kind of happy now if not happy.. Sadly 19 screws is going to be the pain going for BGA lol..

 

Is the Kruonaut paste alot better then the default paste from Clevo? And allso, if i repaste myself will i have to replace the coolingpads on the gpu?

 

Many (including myself) have seen great temp drops with gc gelid or kryonaut. You don't have to replace the pads on the gpu.

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Yea, but I've read on multiple sources that the PC can reach up to 210W. Isnt that a little too close for overclocking? At least decent enough to make a difference? Sorry, coming from a desktop..

1 source here (under energy management): http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nexoc-G734III-Clevo-P670RS-G-Notebook-Review.174030.0.html

 

Buy a cheap kill-a-watt and measure maximum power consumption. Acer Predator 17 with 6700Hq and stock 1070 maxed 223w.

 

210W from the wall = 168W-189W of the bricks rating. (Bricks are rated after taking out the losses in the brick itself).

So max load is around 80% of the bricks rating. Seems like a decent margin to me.

 

Exelent! Gona order a tube of Kryonaut then!

 

Hey guys, is the P670RP6 screen better than the P650? I need something with a good screen for movies and light bleeding or poor colors would be a bummer. (maybe MSI/AW are better for this?)

 

From anecdotal reports on the p650 thread it seems like p670 has much less light bleed. I could be totally wrong. 4k screen users are reporting less light bleed also.

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For movie watching anyway the 17.3" version will be nicer anyway.

 

I calibrated mine today, its around 1100:1 contrast ratio, 80% SRGB coverage. A bit of bleed in the corners. 75hz, mine is running at 90hz no problem.

DeltaE was something like 10 before calibrating. 0.8 after. Very inaccurate displays but it calibrates nicely.

 

One thing I really like about the P670RS is that I can put the system to sleep and not lose audio output after waking it because I didn't install the Clevo Control Center software. This is an issue with the P770ZM, though at least with that you can install a version of the CCC that doesn't include the built-in overclocking junk. Now I can't disable the built-in keyboard backlight, but I actually like the default blue so I think I'm going to keep it this way.

 

Speaking of screen quality,

anyone get kind of a splotchy effect on grey/grey-blue backgrounds? super annoying.. like the screen is dirty. I noticed it first upon loading windows (when the background is blue) and havent been able to un-see it kind of like fingerprints from behind the panel if that makes sense. i submitted a refund request to eluktronics through amazon, i realy just want to try another unit though as i love the PC otherwise.

 

Does anyone know if there's a way to make sure ASPM is enabled in the bios. I got mine from hidevolution so it came with the prema bios but checking there, I don't see anything about ASPM. I wanted to make sure it was enabled because I was trying to improve power saving while running linux. Guides I looked at suggested the first choice was to control ASPM with the bios and if that wasn't an option have the OS do it.

 

There is no Prema BIOS for this machine yet and probably will not be available for several months.

 

I hate to duplicate post, but I wanted this to be its on its own. I uploaded a first impressions video of the P670RS to my Youtube channel:



Next step is to record some gameplay footage. I played a bit of Doom 2016 last night and was impressed with how well it ran at 4K resolution and mostly high detail settings.

 

Someone could explain me why (the hell) the P650 is having this gorgeous, airy bottom panel:



... while di P670 is having this piece of crap?? -_-




The fans are shamefully covered by the panel... something crazy for a game-oriented laptop!
Does someone know any version of the p670 with a "better" bottom panel ?
I was looking for a good cooling pad, but with that bottom it would be almost useless.. -_-

 

I would think that too many vents means more dust (or in my case, dog hair). Or maybe the p670 already has better cooling than the p650 because it is a larger chassis. From anecdotal reports the p650s are hotter than the p670s with all those extra vents.

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I have yet to find any benchmarks (not to mention games) that get my P670 above 80C. Sure, it doesn't look like there is as much ventilation on the bottom, but clearly it doesn't make a difference.

 

It's still pretty open right at the fans, noise and airflow over other components always needs to be considered.

 

In this case I would rather opt for the P650, really....

 

I imagine all those vents don't help create the airflow (like a wind tunnel?) that helps to push air out over all the components. The air around all those vents is probably stagnant whereas the p670 might have better circulation.

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But if it would be like you said, then why literally all gaming rigs have bottom covers like the P650 one?

Alienware, Clevo P7X0DM, P775DM, P870DM, MSI GT 83VR and so on? Imo these additionally vents help inbuild heat to dissipate more easily.

 

No idea. Mostly for show? There is probably an optimum number of vents needed in a notebook. Too many vents doesn't mean cooler if the air flow isn't hitting the right components. Too few vents and you won't get the heat to leave fast enough. You need air to push heat through/over the heat sinks/heat pipes so that you have higher pressure inside (and low or negative pressure outside). Even if you made an open air desktop computer, you would still need a fan to blow over the components. I'm really guessing at this so don't think for a moment that I have any certified opinions on the topic. I do know how important airflow is to get rid from heat using heat sinks and air from my heat transfer class 12 years ago.

It's still pretty impressive that the P670 has good cooling compared to the P650 (anecdotal evidence on the P650 thread)

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I prefer lots of ventilation holes on the bottom lid. Work great with a mod U3. Cleaning inside the laptop is a thing of the past. Maximum 2 times a year with my homemade fan filter made from my wife used nylon stockings

 

Oh boy you make me want to mod my u3. Can I ask what you do for the power source of those fans and how is the noise? I stow my u3 / notebook daily so would like an option that plugs into the notebook and hopefully not an additional power cable (which I doubt is possible). How often do you have to wash/ replace your "filter"?

 

Papusan you already did the damage a couple of days ago, putting the flea in my ear ..
Googling "cooling pad mod" you're in the first results...
My amazon "wishlist":



But it's too much money (>100€ for all the components) for my wallet..

 

I use an old 15v laptop psu I had lying around. Most can be used. The sound level is acceptable, but I have ordered even more powerful fans(Vardar 3000rpm). I hoover the filter a pair times a week. Replace the filter when my wife has a new worn nylon pants I can use And there are bigger 5v fans who are more powerful than those weak small fans supplied with the Cooler Master U3(If you prefer plugs into the notebook)

@Dany-69 I know

 

Recorded some 4K gaming footage of Doom 2016 at Ultra settings on the 1070 version of this notebook.