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    *** Official Clevo P67xRP6-G/P67xRS-G (Sager NP8172/8173) Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by D2 Ultima, Sep 11, 2016.

  1. W123

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    well im certainly glad, was worried my heatsink was slightly warped or something.
     
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    Note that temperature monitoring accurately between cores is actually impossible really due to differences in micro second to micro second loading and variances in the built in sensor.
     
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    lol you don't have to click my link, just go to clevo driver page for your specific laptop (assuming its a new kaby lake laptop it should have same updated section as mine)
     
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    FYI the control panel fixes discrete and intel on board graphics error. it also has improved my overclocking some, I can do 3.8ghz on all 4 cores no downclocking temps still hit 93 celsius or so, but its stable even after 4 hours of hard gaming. i re-pasted with arctic mx-4, don't tell me to re-paste, I just was unlucky cause this clevo has such a tiny heatsink or something isn't hitting something properly but I do not have the tools to test that, and cyberpowerpc is a terrible company so no way in hell I am sending them my laptop for repair, I will just be content lol
     
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    Sager official BIOS 1.05.07RLS2 is out. I've moved up from 1.05.05. I'm hoping for a response on some patch notes, and I'll post back if I receive some. For people like me who bought this laptop early on and have had some stability issues, it is really good to see BIOS updates coming out fairly regularly. I enjoy the laptop more with each update...

    My exact model is in my signature.
     
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    Hello there! I'll be getting my p670 rp6-G this upcoming Friday to replace my faulty msi ge62. I have been following this thread & other similar threads for p6xxxx series since last December. I'm getting it from my local Clevo reseller here in Malaysia. I decided to get the skylake version with gtx1060 due to limited budget. I have some questions regarding this model:

    1. I heard that the ccc software is broken & problematic when switching from hybrid to discreet mode, and the fan curve is totally messed up. So, how severe are the issues mentioned? and what is the current solution to the mentioned issues?

    2. Is it recommended for me to use Obsidian Tool to update my drivers? or should I just stick to the already installed drivers by my reseller if they are stable? ( which means just installed the latest drivers for the ones plagued with issues like bios perhaps?)

    3. Any further tips or advice that I should know before getting my p670 rp6? I will greatly appreciate any useful tips since this is my first clevo gaming laptop. My past laptops are MSI and Dell Inspiron, and they dont require that much hassle like this clevo series (much like what you buy is what you get)... yet still, clevo seems to have many advantages in tweaking, etc...
     
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    Link?
     
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    Does this include a new EC as well? Does it fix the display sleep/wake problem in discrete mode when an external display is connected that I posted a video about several weeks back?
     
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    Just wanted to pitch in here after being away for a while, I have the Clevo model (P670RS-G), and it looks after having some initial stability issues here and there when I first got the machine, the last few months have been great, after months of driver updates, my machine has stopped freezing periodically, gaming performance is outstanding (Mass Effect: Andromeda is damn pretty on Ultra and buttery smooth), but for some reason my trackpad is no longer working, this is probably a driver mishap but I am not bothered by it since I always use an external mouse anyway, so unless I really need it I won't bother with getting a driver fix. Anyway, I am still on the stock Clevo BIOS, is it worth upgrading the BIOS to something else, and if so, which one should it be?
     
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    I have no link as it was e-mailed to me directly. If you PM me I could possibly email it to you, or you can email Sager support with your model number and serial number and ask them. I'm not sure if the sleep issue has been solved o_O


    I asked for a change log but was told that the manufacturer did not provide one. I pulled some info from the Obsidian site and came up with the following for a change log:

    New BIOS options in the menus (Advanced Chipset options and More Overclock Options)

    CPU Voltage Offset is now a negative value - Use it for Undervolt!

    Intel(R) Speed Shift Technology - Now Enabled by Default

    BIOS Fast Boot (not to be confused with Windows Fast Boot) - Now a BIOS option

    More Security Menu Options

    CSM Options

    Fn + G + PowerButton will reset GPU OC values

    H/W TPM SUPPORT F/W updated to 5.6

    Updated ME to 11.0.18.1002
     
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    Looks like they removed them... glad I downloaded it... lol they reverted back to jan 12th 2017 downloads. wierd. no bios upgrades for my model:

    Hmm my Clevo BIOS came with this already, I have slightly newer model number, guess I never needed to worry about upgrading my BIOS all this time... blast!
     
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    It's a good set of basic options for most people now I think :)
     
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    Is there a way you can test this? It happens whenever the computer is set to discrete mode in the BIOS and connected to any sort of external display. Even a TV would work.
     
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    I use an external screen, and don't have any issues. I tested by setting to laptop to sleep when the lid is closed. Wakes up fine, with the external screen. Looks like it's worth the upgrade....
     
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    Can I assume that if I buy the newest model with the kabylake cpu the loud fan issue that people have experienced has been resolved in this release or would I still have to update the bios and ec myself?

    Sent from my SM-T713 using Tapatalk
     
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    And only the external display wakes up, correct?
     
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    I take it back. The laptop does not come out of sleep properly, with an external monitor plugged in, and on Hybrid mode. It seems to work fine if I'm closing the lid, but letting it sleep from inactivity has issues.

    Frustrating!
     
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    Thanks. If and when I can ever beta test the Prema BIOS, this is one area that I am going to rigorously check.

    I would send a note to Sager that this is still a problem. Feel free to send them a link to my video as well.
     
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    I assume you need the unlocked CPUs to undervolt in the BIOS? I have latest BIOS and there are no such options.
     
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    That option isn't in the BIOS typically, but would be done through a program like Intel XTU.
     
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    Sorry, was in reply to a poster about changelog from new BIOS:

    New BIOS options in the menus (Advanced Chipset options and More Overclock Options)

    CPU Voltage Offset is now a negative value - Use it for Undervolt!

    Intel(R) Speed Shift Technology - Now Enabled by Default

    BIOS Fast Boot (not to be confused with Windows Fast Boot) - Now a BIOS option

    More Security Menu Options

    CSM Options

    Fn + G + PowerButton will reset GPU OC values

    H/W TPM SUPPORT F/W updated to 5.6

    Updated ME to 11.0.18.1002
     
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    I tried undervolting my 7820HK, 35 on all 4 cores, and 45w default wattage but with a -80 offset in bios, and whenever I play games it downclocks to 2.9ghz on all 4 cores. its annoying. so yeah i just would leave everything at stock honestly. laptops just suck for overclocking, outside of gpu's, i got +500 vram on my gtx 1070 stable :) and +150 core, it boosts to over 2k lol. but yeah the 7820HK overheats like a beast in these Clevo laptops.
     
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    Where are this options in BIOS menu? Don't see "more overclock options" - fe. CPU Voltage Offset, only old useless ram oc options.
     
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    BIOS options can be vendor specific.
     
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    People aren't reading the original post properly. The BIOS is from Sager, and the change log was pulled from the Obsidian site....thus may not represent the actual change log.

    As far as the sleep/external screen issue. I emailed Sager who suggested Intel driver version 20.19.15.4531. The issue seems to be solved. You just have to give the power button a push to wake up as the keyboard seems to have no effect.
     
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    I starting to have mouse / keyb pauses again with discreet mode with an external hdmi monitor. I called for support and they gave me a couple of options to try like.

    One of the more interesting options is concerning a pcie bottleneck using two pcie m.2 drives. Can anyone confirm this?

    Atm i have the original crucial mx300 m.2. is this sata or pcie?

    And a mydigitallife m.2 which i belive is nvme.

    Is there a bottleneck using these two?

    Can someone also confirm for future expansion can i only add one sata (max 9.5mm) not two?

    Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
     
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    The service manual for this model states that if you have a NVMe drive connected, you can't use the other M.2 slot for a storage device. I have two M.2 SATA devices in my machine, and everything works fine. Also, you can only connect two standard SATA drives if they're 7mm tall. Anything larger, and only one will fit.
     
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    There is a limit of a max of 4x PCI-E 3.0 combined total of anything running from the chipset (that's everything but GPU) due to the DMI 3.0 bus.
     
  31. John@OBSIDIAN-PC

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    Humm that is our BIOS change log, it is exclusive for our clients.
    Please don´t consider that to be the regular BIOS...
    Still you pretty much don´t need to touch the BIOS, software like XTU or even better-> Throttlestop, will give you every option you need.
     
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    Thanks John, i was under the impression that Clevo supplied all the BIOS for the clevo models and you guys just added your own logos.

    I do use throttlestop, would just be nice not to have to rely on software.
     
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    Places can ask for customised tweaks to an extent.
     
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    Guess i shouldn't of bought a nvme drive then. Might have to sell the m.2 sata or nvme.

    What's the max space for 7mm sata's these days? Was hoping for a 3 or 4tb but can't find any.

    Sent from my SM-N910G using Tapatalk
     
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    I'm confused again. On my resellers site. I can choose a samsung 960 pro nvme and a second m.2 sata but if choosing a intel 600p it won't let me select a second m.2 and states Not available with Intel PCIe m.2.

    Are they not both nvme pcie drives?

    I read mydigtalssd bpx is a pcie x4 is this compatible with another m.2 sata?
     
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    Check our configurator for the options we officially support. Anything beyond that you will need to contact your reseller.
     
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    guys plz help me: I have a XMG p707 2017 model with a GTX 1070 and 7820 HK CPU which is a Clevo P670.

    at the moment i am running BIOS and EC both at 1.05.01.

    there is a new EC Version to download 1.05.03

    https://www.mysn.de/secure/userarea...7_1070_P707_1060_1070_2017_EC_1.05.03_XMG.zip

    and also a new BIOS 1.05.02

    https://www.mysn.de/secure/userarea...1070_P707_1060_1070_2017_BIOS_1.05.02_XMG.zip

    the problem is that i dont know exactly which files to use for flashing.

    in the EC.zip is a file ecflash.bat which i am sure is the right one.

    but in the BIOS.zip are many files: FLASH.nsh, FLASHME.nsh, FlashMEWinX64.bat, FlashWinX64.bat

    There is a Manual ( https://www.mysn.de/driver/_Sonstiges/Anleitungen/Anleitung BIOS Flash EFI.pdf) from Schenker that describes BIOS flashing with the EFI-Shell and there is mentioned, if you have a FLASHME.nsh you need to use first MesetX64.efi, after that the Computer restarts and then you have to use FLASHME.nsh ......... but MesetX64.efi is missing in the Bios-zip-Archive (there is only a MeSet.efi)

    so i dont know which files to use...

    plz help me - thx a lot!
     
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    Meset.efi will work too... use that.
     
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    After installing windows 10 Creator update on my P670 , it keeps installing
    Egis Technology Inc. driver update for EgisTec ES603 Swipe Fingerprint Sensor
    Does, this through Windows Update every day.
    Anyone else have this?
     
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    thx John for your reply!

    this means: first the EC update via ecflash.bat ?

    then the BIOS update with the EFi-shell : first Meset.efi and after a restart FlashMe.nsh ?


    (FlashMEWinX64.bat and FlashWinX64.bat are not required at all? )

    (do you know the difference between Meset.efi and MesetX64.efi.... has it something to do with 64 bit support? )

    (there is also a Flash.nsh in the BIOS-zip-file which i shouldn't use - instead FlashMe.nsh.... is this correct? )

    thx a lot for your help! :)
     
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    Oh man what a mess.
    Dude how would you like to flash your system? In DOS, UEFI or Windows?
    I'll make you a proper package.
    I don't recommend windows though.
    When I get back to the office I'll do it and write instructions.

    Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Yes, I had this problem as well. Here's how to fix it.

    1. Download the fingerprint driver from Clevo. Be patient as the servers are very slow. At least this is one of the smaller downloads at about 40 MB.
    2. Disconnect from the Internet.
    3. Purge your Windows update cache. Follow one of the instructions here. Be advised that this will prevent the uninstallation of any other updates that have been put on.
    4. Go into device manager, select the fingerprint reader, right click, then uninstall driver. Be sure to check the box that says to delete the driver files from the device. Reboot.
    5. While still disconnected from the Internet, install the fingerprint driver from the package you downloaded in step 1. It's the same version as the one from Windows Update. Reboot.
    6. To clear the repeated entries from your Windows Update settings, follow the steps outlined here.
    7. Reconnect to the Internet.
    8. Profit.
     
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    The biggest joke is: i tried this like 5 times without disconnecting from internet and it didn't work. What are MS guys smoking these days?
    Tnx for fix
     
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    I edited the post you quoted with instructions on how to purge your Windows Update cache, so the OS won't try to install the driver it already downloaded.
     
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    in DOS or UEFI - i have never made a BIOS-flash in the past under windows.

    this is the first time on my new laptop and there is no perfect clear manual or files missing in the zip-files and thats the reason why i am really careful not to brick it....

    Thx you soo much for your help John!!
     
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    You need to disable UEFI before doing a flash in DOS.
     
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    Here you go, boot from EFI (i even included the EFI boot files so you just need to copy everything to a USB stick root):
    https://www.obsidian-pc.com/BIOS_UPDATE.zip

    Reboot press F7 and choose your USB Stick

    now find the system for the stick

    Type:
    FS0:
    DIR

    If the contents match your usb stick then you found it if not go to the next file system:
    Type:
    FS1:
    DIR

    Keep going till you find it:
    Type:
    FS2:
    DIR


    etc....

    When you find it then just type:
    MeSet.efi

    It will restart and then just do as before but this time the actual flash command:

    FLASH.nsh


    Done. It will Flash ME, BIOS and EC.

    By the way, that´s not the latest BIOS nor is it the latest EC for the HS models.

     
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    thx John!!

    have you used the files for your "package" from the XMG Homepage i have linked in my first post?

    or are these other Versions?

    i know the 2016 (Skylake)model- BIOS is a different version, as my Kabylake (Schenker names it 2017 model) has...

    and because i am interested: why you dont have used the latest versions?


    thx soo much!!
     
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    I just used the files from your links!!

    OHHH i just noticed don´t forget the MESET command first!!!
    I edited the original post!
     
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    i have flashed it and now in BIOS it shows the updated numbers, but i think it only made flashME.nsh command and skipped flash.nsh command because in the Flash.nsh you created stands : afuefix64 %BIOSROM% /p /b /n /l /r and i thought i should be named: afuefix64 P6XHX.8M /p /b /n /l /r

    is this correct if the command "afuefix64...." hasnt been done or should i start manually only flash.nsh from the XMG zip?


    or in simple words:

    is the BIOS update applied correct if only flashME.nsh has been runned and flash.nsh not?
    (after the reboot in BIOS the numbers are the correct ones and CMOS reset showed up after first boot)

    thx
     
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