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    *** Official Clevo P67xRP6-G/P67xRS-G (Sager NP8172/8173) Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by D2 Ultima, Sep 11, 2016.

  1. gnarkill283

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    Well this is further evidence that the 7700hq runs too hot in this comp. Anyone else have the 7700hq?
     
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    Were u playing at high settings? Any other game you played? I get around 70-78C CPU, 55-65C GPU in heavy gaming 1h @ room temp (23C)

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    Run command prompt as administrator and enter the following lines, pressing enter after each one. You can copy/paste all of these at once, put them into a text file, and save it on a flash drive for future use:

    1. sc delete DiagTrack
    2. sc delete dmwappushservice
    3. echo “” > C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Diagnosis\ETLLogs\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl
    4. reg add “HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\DataCollection” /v AllowTelemetry /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f
     
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    is that the 7700hq? I am playing on ultra settings and not in 4k. So far overwatch, the witcher 3, and battlefield 1 go to the 90s. Hots doesn't but that game can be run on a calculator. That's all the games I have atm.
     
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    Highest settings. It seems to have leveled off a bit, and I'm using a cooler fan now as well. CPU hasn't gotten back to 90 again, stays pretty steady around 78 under load.

    Maybe just needed burned in. Guess it wasn't stress tested as I had requested before it shipped.

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    Yeah 7700HQ. I think the thermal paste appl may have air space or the heat sink is not properly aligned. My best guess. My temps are without any undervolting. Also if its brand new give some time for the paste to acclimatize.
     
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    I have the 7700HQ ordered with IC diamond. With a -125 mV undervolt, the max CPU temp I've seen is 87 in The Witcher 3. GPU gets to high 70s. Seems rather high, but maybe it's the paste job.


    I'm also having an issue with the fingerprint scanner - with the drivers installed I can see it in Device Manager, but Windows Hello doesn't seem to recognize it. Anyone else have this issue?
     
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    GPU is a bit high.

    Hello is working but it wont recognize after u scan ur finger? If I scan quickly it doesnt work for me. I gotta scan slow.

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    I am sorry to hear you are having this issue, however I would strongly recommend contacting our Tech Support team before coming here. We can check your settings to make sure they are right, and do any other troubleshooting that may be required.

    It is not uncommon for the CPU to reach higher temps when in Hybrid mode. It should be set to Performance plan and set to Overclock fan mode in the Clevo Control Center. The fan tables are kind of messed up and the system will heat up even more if it is not setup this way. Or, it could be something else is going on.

    I will have our Tech Support team reach out to you to make sure all is as it should be.

    If you should ever need tech support or warranty service, please understand that I am not a technician, so it would be better to contact our Tech Support Team by phone at 888-666-3418 Extension 3, between 9:00 AM and 5:00 PM Pacific Time, Monday through Friday, by email at [email protected], or by Online Support Ticket at http://www.hidevolution.com/contacts/ (in the department dropdown menu select Zoltan S - Tech Support).

    Please let me know if they don’t resolve your issue.
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    Windows doesn't seem to recognize that I have a fingerprint scanner at all, the part of the settings to set it up doesn't appear, instead it just says Windows Hello isn't available. But I can see it in the device manager.
     
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    I'm sure you've tried this, but a reboot fixed it for me. You can try uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling as well.
     
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    What's the fan noise like under load on these with the 1060?

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    Has anyone had a BSOD from 'memory management'?

    Just had my first BSOD since my latest round of formatting & updating the BIOS (few weeks ago by now). Error shows 'memory management'. Has anyone had any experience with this?
     
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    Well it points to a ram issue.
     
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    Any particular program you recommend I use to test?
     
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    memtest86
     
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    Is it possible to upgrade to 2400MHz ddr4 ram from 2133MHz with the 6700hq cpu or is that just compatible with the new 7700hq cpu. Thanks

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    Hi all,

    I will be purchasing this laptop soon and I have gone through these forums to check for any possible problems that could happen upon arrival.

    I want to be able to use CCC to control my keyboard. However, I also want to undervolt the machine using XTU.

    Has there any been any resolutions to the fan table? Can I still use these two in unison without causing any trouble? Thanks all, look forward to using this beast!
     
  20. mishkasm

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    Well, the solution most people seem to be using (including me) is to use CCC without the XTU components and then to undervolt using ThrottleStop. If you insist on using XTU, then I suppose there is no great harm in trying, but at least some of us have had issues. I would make sure to not switch CCC fan control to "custom" at any point - I really think that is what triggers the issues with the fan tables. Just leave it exactly as it is and it will work (mostly) fine. If you notice your fan constantly running check to make sure that the GPU is not set to "performance" as then it will draw a lot of power even when idle. Good luck.
     
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    Yes, you can use 2400mhz ram with the 6700HQ.
     
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    It officially supports up to 2133Mhz but intel do leave a lot of margin in that.
     
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    Hey everyone.

    I own this one MODEL: CLEVO P670HS-G 17.3" I love this laptop, truly I love it, but I am having overheating issue. When I played Witcher 3 at stock 7820HK settings, my gtx 1070 would hit 65 celsius, awesome temps on GPU, but 98 celsius on CPU. So I replaced thermal paste with Arcitc MX-4 and temps came down to around 91 Celsius stock everything. So XTU won't enforce settings for some reason, so I uninstalled that, and used the clevo control center, and I undervolted -115 adaptive, it helped some, so me and my Dad looked at it, the gtx 1070 has two fans and a bulkier part of the shared heatsink, I don't think the poor 7820HK cpu was ever meant to be in a laptop like this, very tiny heatsink and one tiny fan.

    So I bought this thing called Opolar, to suck air out of cpu vent faster, and it lowered temps by a good 5-6 celsius (even when I had used FN + 1 to max out fans on same tests), me and my dad took off back of laptop, we took a dremmel saw and cut a tiny 3x4 inch area directly over the CPU to give it some fresh air hitting it, and I bought some extra copper heat sinks I electrical taped in, didn't really help any at all, so I removed the extra copper heatsinks...

    now I am at 4.2ghz all 4 cores, and temps are same at stock as they are with this, and cinebench only downclocks to 3.9ghz at the very end, and stays at 89-90 celsius entire test, until very end it spikes to 93-94... if I can just figure out how to shave off 5 more celsius I would be sitting really good.

    my question is, can i turn off adaptive voltage, and just put in say 1.89 voltage with an offset to lower temps? as shown in the CCC screenshot below please let me know what you guys think.... so close to having solid laptop lol in other news, I love this laptop, I have it at 90hz even though it will do 100hz. :DDD

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    Let's say you could put 1.89v... You'd cooked your BGA :D If you use adaptive or static voltage is not so important. Most important is to find the right voltage offset for your chips aka clockspeed. No silicon is equal. Only trial and error will help you. You can download Throttlestop and play around with different voltage. But do not run XTU services together with TS. And Arcitc MX-4 is junk... ICD, Gelid Extreme or Grizzly Kryonaut. Or even better if your heatsink is good. Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra.
    Try also my U3 mod
     
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    Which version of CCC is that? Mine only show options for memory overclock, control for performance/entertainment/batterysaving and a suite for keyboard color. How do I access undervolting feature in CCC?

    Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk
     
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    What paste do you recommend I buy? I have Amazon Prime, and I would be fine with re-doing the paste to something better. Kryonaut perhaps? As long as I don't have to repaste more than once a year, I'd be fine with paying a little more for something... let me know, thanks! Links from AMAZON USA welcome
     
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    I prefer Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra. But otherwise ICD. But All above are top quality. If you going with Coolaboratory Liquid Ultra aka liquid metal, please note that this is eletrical conductive + eat aluminium and must be applied with caution. If not. Goodbye hardware (see pict).
    [​IMG]
     
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    I just ordered some liquid ultra, I be careful to brush on just tiny amounts. can I also put this on my GPU the gtx 1070? I am only worried that cheap chinese companies maybe used aluminum in these Clevo laptops without telling people... :/ what if the contact to my heatsink from the cpu has a little alumnium in it because Clevo wanted to save some money and not tell anyone lol
     
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    Will setting the CPU VR limit at a set value lower temps any? Also, can someone give me and idea what voltage to start off with, if I turn off adaptive voltage? Like say I want 39 on all 4 cores, what is the manual voltage I should use for that? See screenshot... it has an option for it... I know it varies, but what is my starting point...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Only if the new lower limit is reached and the heat will go down as the CPU will start to slow down.
     
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    The cooling plate is pure copper ;) And Liquid metal shall only be used there, or you must be prepared to buy new Hardware :D
     
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    I am going to use dremmel saw to cut the vent hole a little bigger, directly over the cpu heatsink, then install this on top of the heatsink with a little arctix m4 and secure it in with black electrical tape: its a low profile copper heatsink. hopefully this will give me 5-8 extra celsius in cooling.

    [​IMG]
     
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    With airflow and good contact it would make a big difference.
     
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    Hey guys I noticed HDD in laptops are mounted upside down, so did I mount mine wrong? I have the Seagate sticker top on bottom, so the naked part is facing up towards the laptop keyboard, and the sticker part is facing outward.... but this picture shows it being done the opposite way... my 5TB seagate HDD seems to work fine mounted the way it is... but should I turn it around to be safe? or does it matter? i got it screwed in nice and good?

    [​IMG]
     
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    The connector is not bi-directional, it only works one way round.
     
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    I'm still getting the "memory management" BSOD o_O

    I've run both MemTest86 and the Windows Memory Diagnostic. Both came up with zero errors.

    What else could it be?
     
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    Anyone else can't set GPU to discrete in CCC? Every time I try to do it, it asks for a restart and doesn't change the setting.
     
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    Doesnt work. Do it from BIOS. Has to do with the specific version.

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    Yeah, I had to do it from BIOS as well. I ended up downclocking, 43000 in bios instead of 45000, and 3.6ghz on all 4 cores, temps are in low 80s on heavy loads, if i bump it to 3.8ghz i get close to 90s, sucks. but I think I am going to buy a corsair H55 CPU cooler at some point, ad an inch to my 4 standoffs to run the tubes back and gorilla glue the radiatior on top of laptop screen, and gorilla glue it on to the heatsink but the cpu itself to reduce risk. should work fine. then i will hit 4.3ghz 24/7 easy, maybe even more. these laptop companies are so dumb, it seriously would not be that hard to do a cheap corsair AIO for the cpu, adds a little more bulk, but meh
     
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    And if the liquid cooler ruptures while the notebook is being transported in a bag, then what?
     
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    ? No different than saying... and if a liquid cooler ruptures in a micro atx build while being carried to a LAN event... I have seen less than 1% of all corsair AIO's leak... so I am not sure what your point is here... once my laptop is set up it won't be moving... Clevo is just a joke of a company for putting a tiny heatsink and one fan on a 7820HK.... I mean come on lol
     
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    Liquid cooling only works due to the large fin space of the radiator. If you keep your fins the same size there is no benefit of water cooling. An air cooler using the space and power from the lack of pump will perform better.
     
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    Did you do RMA or found solution to this problem?
    Looks like i have similar or same problem... :(
    For now i have - i guess short term - solution/workaround: dGPU starts working properly after it heats up to ~58*C. Atm i dont use any special tool to get there easier - just trying to launch ARK: Survival Evolved - it chrashes GPU - but after like 5 starts i reach temperature "sweet spot" and it dont crash anymore - unless it goes below 55*C or so. Thats in mshybrid mode. In Discrete mode its nightmare to start up notebook - takes like 3..4 laptop restarts...

    Feels like its HW issue and cant be fixed by bios updates - but going through with RMA might be bit annoying as l use laptop for work and my old workstation/laptop is gone... :(
     
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    Well I just ordered a 5v 3 pin fan to usb adapter x2 and a corsair H60 water cooler, I am going to place it directly on the heatsink not the CPU, I will post back next week with images and temp results. Cheers everyone. If you are right, I will just send it back for a refund, but if you are wrong, I am oc'ing to 4.4 ghz xD
     
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    Well, actually yes I did, and if you have the same problem then I suppose I have good and bad news for you...:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...73-owners-lounge.795990/page-82#post-10465267

    Good news: stop trying to solve a software problem, it is not a software one; bad news: arrange a RMA with your reseller, because in my case they needed to replace the motherboard, as explained above.

    Good luck :rolleyes:
     
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    An H60 will drastically change the temps of any heatsink of this magnitude you are strapping it to.
     
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    is it possible the latest BIOS/EC brought my cpu core temp differentials down? after 1.05.07 and latest EC, the difference between my core temps are much more consistent (couple degrees versus anywhere from 5-10 before!)
     
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    A different EC can contain improved power - fan profiles. So this is possible.
     
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    Also improved temperature monitoring.
     
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