Back on topic...
To anyone who bought this laptop from XoticPC, how long was it from order to ship? I know they say 9-16 days but the last laptop I ordered from them shipped 4 days after I ordered.
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970m at 980m 3DMark Fire Strike performance ~ 50-60mV bump to get there. STOCK AUTO FANS.
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Back on topic, like care to share that bios Mr. Wingnut?
We should level the playing field and let the 980m free from its chains too. I volunteer mine
I can already increase the clocks, but unlocking the slider not yet. Also for the overvolt I'd like to look at your Voltage Table. Your power table is of interest too...Last edited by a moderator: Dec 27, 2014 -
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Paging LunaP. We need some comics, nao. kthx. -
Prema also made me a BIOS but he was not able to release to everyone because the BIOS was somehow locked to my laptop. (Eg. He could not make a custom BIOS for ALL p34gv2's; each BIOS had to be custom made). I really hope it isn't the case, but I think the modified BIOS Wingnut was given works only on his laptop
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Found the reply from Prema when I asked about using the modified BIOS on other systems:
"That model [P34Gv2; however the same MIGHT apply to the Sager Np865X] can not flash a modified BIOS the regular way. I can only make it flash your very own dump, which contains your serial number for warranty, your MAC address etc. We can prepare something later that dumps the users BIOS, then automatically Mods it and writes it back to the chip, but that requires a bit of time, otherwise we end up with many broken systems...
So if you want yours modded now, make it worth my time and push my coffee button and I'll do a custom Mod which will work on your very own system only."
I THINK Wingnut might have a customized version just for him; though he would know best. It'd be great if Prema could let us know if we can expect a modified BIOS for the NP865X in the future.Last edited: Dec 27, 2014 -
If he had to custom make a bios for everyone, he should require some type of donation for each person he modifies the bios for...which I think would be great. Regardless of how much he currently collects in donations, it isn't enough for the guy. He provides incredible work for us and I value that work a ton.
On the other hand...if everyone has to message him for bios mods, it will take him away from other projects...besides--I can only imagine the nightmare of repetitive questions this thread will have to endure. -
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It is actually only about 50-60mV bump. The voltage is correct in GPU-z, not correct on the nVidia Inspector slider.
It seems there is TDP limit though because much beyond this, regardless of voltage, there ends up being some GPU throttling/bouncing of the clock speeds.
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Still, your cards clocks are sick... Congrats. Any ASIC score to go with that?
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But also note that fan speeds need to be taken into consideration. Fan speeds were faster/louder on the P650SG than the P650SE. Unfortunately it seems we can't read fan RPM speeds with HWInfo or other app. -
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I see what you guys mean. Fair enough. Even so, that temperature is remarkably good. Seems like the 970m is a no-brainer- 980m performance with temps in the mid 60's on a thin laptop thats under $1300 USD. SOLD!
(OK, I'm biased since I just ordered the 970m version)
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Hi guys.
Got a question for those with GTX 970M 3GB vRAM.
Do you guys suffer any stuttering issue due to not enough vRAM?
Here's a compilation of vRAM usage of some of the latest game from gamegpu.ru website :
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Anyway, of course you also have your usual "GO-WING-NUTS" - version with power throttle completely disabled in your inbox.
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Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)
That chart is meant for desktops which are water-cooled and have no power/temperature/space limits (hint: take a look at the specs in your chart.)
As far as I'm concerned, I don't need and want games to run at 60 FPS continuously - this means that my GPU isn't being taxed much, if at all. My personal sweet spot is 30-45 FPS.
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4710HQ,Notebook P65_P67SG
Within a gnat's whisker of a desktop 4770K with a Titan. It feels like I'm dreaming! -
1366x768 on High - around 1.2GB vRAM dedicated usage from GPU-Z
1920x1080 on High - around 1.3GB vRAM
1366x768 on Maximum - around 1.7GB vRAM
1920x1080 on Maximum - around 1.9 (almost 2GB) vRAM
It's good if you guys have no issue on stuttering.
Coz I've pre-ordered the Gigabyte P34W v3 with GTX 970M 3GB. -
should be a similar case here
thx prema for releasing the potential of these brilliant modelshelps to pass the time until batman finally arrives
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Hark! Bluetooth survives yet another day without issues!
A real stress test: in excess of an hour in Crysis 3 just standing there still - with a resulting constant 99% GPU load. Bam! Laptop handled it like a champ. Maximum of 63°C for the GPU and 64°C for the CPU. No thermal throttling of any kind. Bam!
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jeanjackstyle Notebook Evangelist
All right, I think this laptop is freeza disguised in a computer. Cakefish, did you try battery life? Htwingnut evaluate his p650sg to roughly 200 minutes for desktop tasks and 150 for movie. Anybody has the 980 + Fhd for battery life evaluation? Wickette?
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But on this model either the AC Adapter or the thermals will dictate us the limits and the public mod will be adjusted accordingly so people don't have to face AC Adapter shutdowns.
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I will be using my 230W Dell adapter though, just for giggles.
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good job, give it the best shot it can possibly take
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My memory cannot overclock well. While my previous Gigabyte P35X v3's 980M managed +500 easily, this one has graphical artifacts at a mere +300. I think around +200 is going to be the stable limit. A shame, but it means that I will be able to increase the core clock more without breaking the PSU 180W power limit. Core clock is the more important factor in performance, as I found from my P35X v3 testing, even at higher resolutions than 1080p.
I've been getting constant crashes to desktop as soon as I launch FireStrike. In windowed mode it runs fine, but not the proper test in fullscreen mode - which you need to run for the overall score. Latest Intel driver. 344.75 NVIDIA driver. Stock clocks. Games run fine though.Last edited: Dec 28, 2014 -
GPU temps are starting to rise though.
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Very nice HT you officially beat the 980m... I want that bios! Lol actually I haven't found a need to overclock so I wouldn't risk the damage. Maybe in a couple years tho
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FYI - My laptop finally shipped!!Tracking shows it hits my door on the 2nd.
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Excellent work HTWingNut! Does that work with the stock 180W PSU?
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now an open Bios for 980m please *.*
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I've found my stable memory clock. A measly +130MHz. Wow. What a dud.
In a more positive light at +135/+130 I'm in no danger of breaking the 180W barrier according to my power consumption monitor.
But still... that memory overclock is shockingly low. I've never had GPU memory that is so incapable of overclocking. Really makes my previous 780M and 980M look amazing overclockers by comparison (both could do +500MHz easily). -
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jeanjackstyle Notebook Evangelist
Maybe you were unlucky in the Silicon lottery?
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Well the core is the more important of the two so good luck
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Just joking but the 3940XM will help with the overall score... Perma, once I get the 970M working, I'll PM you and hopefully you can help me with an unlocked vBIOS.. I will give you a free beer too
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What's your asic cakefish?
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