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    *** Official Clevo P65xSA/SE/SG / Sager NP8650/51/52 Owner´s Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by jaybee83, Oct 13, 2014.

  1. Cakefish

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    Because if it's not 60Hz I'm not interested. Scan rep is asking whether NVIDIA Optimus limits the display to 48Hz with 4K panels.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
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    Thank you for the replies... what are your thoughts on the Graphics RAM differences? As you've decided to go for the Clevo I'm guessing it's not a deal breaker.
     
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    4GB's of VRAM is fine for most games now, it's some un-optimized console ports that use lots of it.
    Saying that tomorrow's more demanding games will probably start using more so in general more is better but you should be fine with 4GB's.
     
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    Interesting, they are already going with the new Crucial m600 OEM models.
     
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    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    I think that's what I said, OEM. ;)

    I.e., I heard the Crucial m600 model was hitting the market this month, and knew it was OEM-only, but I had not yet seen a system integrator with them ...

    Until I hit the Eurocom configure page. They are the first one I've seen with them.

    Huh? Where did you get that?

    Yes, the MX100 and m600 both use the same MLC chips, but that's not uncommon with multiple lines from the same manufacturer or OEM. But there are several differences in the design of each.
     
  8. Addy246

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    I always do that too! For any new electronic item that is arriving on a particular day, I make sure I drive back home from work to receive it, irrespective of signature required or not! :D
     
  9. Dabeer

    Dabeer Notebook Evangelist

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    I decided to request a delivery change - they'll be holding it at the UPS Customer Counter that's on my way to work, so no need to worry about my wife being home to sign for it, or to take off and wait at home... I'll have it in my hands at around 8am tomorrow morning :D

    Whether I get any work done tomorrow is another question ;)
     
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    bmac1632 Notebook Guru

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    I always have signature required packages sent to work. The mailroom signs for it and drops it off at my desk.
     
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    I'm already getting pre-emptive 980M withdrawal symptoms. Hopefully Far Cry 4 will help me forget about what will happen on Thursday.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
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    Unfortunately my P505 will probably not arrive this week. Schenker are quoting Tuesday at the latest (due to many orders for this product and there's a public holiday on Thursday), which if true will mark exactly 2 weeks from the date of my order to delivery. A bit longer than I expected, particularly as it'll mean I miss this weekend, which means it automatically misses my birthday as it was a gift to myself. Really annoyed at the fact every possible laptop I've wanted has been delayed in some form or another over the last few weeks, but at least judging by the various threads on the P505/P651SE I can at least look forward to receiving a quality product when it does come. And on the other hand, I do appreciate that the P505 will undergo rigorous testing for quality control before dispatch which adds time. So for now, I am just sitting patiently once again.
     
  13. flamy

    flamy Notebook Consultant

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    ^ Aw that sucks, man. Think of it this way, you get to have your birthday for more than one day. Happy birthday! :)
     
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    Lucky you, you get the "drop at my desk" service. Last time I tried sending package to work address, it took almost a day for me to get it since we have multiple receiving points for same address. All the packages would eventually go to the mail room, but sorting is a slow process. So I decided to ship it to home address. And now that winter is here already and we have snow, I need to make sure I receive the package in person, else it would be left out in the snow.
     
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    Finally pulled the trigger, got the 970M version from Scan UK with a 1TB HDD + 250GB Samsung EVO SSD. Also comes with Assassins Creed Unity/Far Cry 4/The Crew and was £1187, which is not bad considering that's including VAT. Should get it in the first week of December is the only draw back, but I've waited this long I can wait another week or two and it saves me a little more money on the side.

    TN Panel is annoying but will consider a replacement depending on exactly how good/bad it is.
     
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    WOW, it comes with ONE ubisoft game that you have chosen between those three ^^ ok ?
     
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    Because I've returned my Gigabyte (with which I got AC Unity with the game code from OC UK) and Scan are part of the NVIDIA promotion with my forthcoming LG1520, it'll mean that I'll have all 3 games in that package for merely £8.49. I won a £30 Amazon voucher, which I spent on FC4. Not bad :)
     
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    tiner Notebook Evangelist

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    Any 970 or 980 (970m and 980m too) card comes with one of those games.

    There's some download key in the box.
     
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    Whoah what? I ordered one from XoticPC a week ago and there was no mention of any game...

    Will there be one for me regardless whether there was any mention or not?
     
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    Cheers buddy!

    The countdown continues...
     
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    flamy Notebook Consultant

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    haha! try out any 900 series laptop to see if it really is to your liking, and if it is not - here have a game, sorry for disappointing you.
     
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    @jimmyjohns: always depends on the vendor ure buying from, not all shops participate in nvidias program, unfortunately...
     
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    Does anyone know where to buy a Sharp LQ156D1JX01B panel separate from the laptop (60 Hz, RGB Stripe IGZO, ~100% sRGB Gamut)?

    I want a 4K Sharp 980M with no drives (I have a spare 500 GB 850 Evo and an unused 8.1 install).

    I STRONGLY want to be able to purchase via Amazon.

    In the USA
    Dia offers the laptop as I want it, but they do not offer payments via Amazon.
    XoticPC does not offer the 980m 651
    Eurocom has the Samsung LTN156FL02-L01 (48 Hz, RGBW), not the Sharp panel

    Thanks crew
     
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    Disregard Re- Eurocom - I Just received reply !
    1 - What is the 4K screen Make (Sharp LQ156D1JX01B or Samsung LTN156FL02-L01)?
    ---4K panel is Samsung
    2 - can this configuration be ordered via Amazon (I see Eurocom does offer laptops via Amazon)?
    ---Yes we can order via Amazon.com
    3 – what is the shipping date?
    ---shipping of GTX 970M version is 2-3 days; GTX 980M shipping starts early December

    2nd Email:
    Any chance the Sharp Panel can be added as an option?
    The sharp panel is a 60 Hz IGZO RGB Stripe panel with ~100% sRGB gamut
    The Samsung is a 48 hz RGBW panel (1/2 of the pixels are white)

    ---Yes, we will offer 4K Sharp and 3K Panasonic VV16T029D00 with GTX 980M based M5 Pro model.
    ---Delivery is early December.

    3rd Email:
    what (if any) price premium does the Sharp LQ156D1JX01B carry over the Samsung LTN156FL02-L01
    4K Sharp is approx $120 higher over 4K Samsung
     
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    Sager Notebook :: Series Notebook :: NP8652
    www3.sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP8652.htmlVertaal deze pagina
    NP8652. Notebook. 15.6" Full HD LED-Backlit Display; Nvidia GeForce GTX 980M 4GB GDDR5; Intel® Core™ i7-4710HQ; 8GB DDR3 at 1600MHz; 750GB ...

    That is from google when u search NP8652..
    Great news, i gues. :D

    OMG: Pictures :D Will this be the P650SG..?

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    Sager Notebook :: Series Notebook :: NP8652
     
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    My eyes are melting with happiness, love and rainbows.

    Also; Samsung is 48Hz? Phew, bullet dodged. pcspecialist advertise it as 60Hz. And not true RGB? Glad I've gone with the Sharp display.

    It's gonna be one hell of a Christmas present :D
     
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    http://www3.sagernotebook.com/

    DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE
    Please check back very soon. Sorry for the inconvenience!

    Perhaps I'm getting excited for nothing but Apple closes their online store for a bit just before they launch a new product. *HOPES*
     
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    Can't work out if you're being sarcastic or whatnot, but I was purely stating everything in the bundle that I got for my money. Sure it might only be £30 but it's a nice little extra considering how much I'll use it.
     
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    Check 2 post above yours.. :)
     
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    That is one sexy as hell finish <3 I almost want to buy it for looks alone! Here's hoping there will be a brushed metal finish available for the p7x0zm as well.
     
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    aaaaaah dunno, id still go for the sandblasted chassis tbh, kind of sleeker that way (and less prone to fingerprints)

    are we sure that this aint just placeholder pics copied over from the SE page? doesnt really look any thicker to me...

    then again, that 3-4 mm difference may not even be visible in those marketing pics :p
     
  32. Dabeer

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    It's definitely different, check out the differences in the backplate, specifically the pattern over the rear vent.

    If I had the money and it were available, I'd definitely be considering the P650SG with the Sharp 4K and the 4870HQ (for Iris Pro and guaranteed 60Hz).
     
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    May be the 17" version
     
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    SG version certainly look fatter. Thanx for the pic
     
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    OMG, I WILL FLUTTER WITH HAPPINESS if I can get the P7x0ZM with the looks of P65X. I MEAN, OMG!!!!! *SQUEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLL* <3 <3 <3
     
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    Just curious, if you are getting a 17' model, why does thickness/weight matter? It's already too big to carry around for school so since you won't be carrying it DAILY, why does it matter?
     
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    I wonder what the price difference between P65 and the P67 (SG versions) will work out to in the US.

    Hrmm. I think my budget's just about maxed out with the P65
     
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    So is it safe to say there will be no sanded blasted version in the US for a while if ever? Really like the look of it and the less finger prints.
     
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    Yes I agree. I like the look of the sandblasted better and the black grill instead of the chrome on the back...

    I would rather a dull matte finish then a brushed shiny finish any day.
     
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    will be adding the SG pics to the OP shortly :)
     
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    I emailed PCS as soon as I found the panel specs on Eurocom's site, asking whether the "main clock" being 48Hz meant that it was, in fact, limited to 48Hz. Their reply was that they weren't sure (because they didn't have any in stock to check) but they thought it would be 60. The specs on their site say 60, as does Panelook and even the spec sheet that Eurocom so carelessly put online mention a 60Hz mode.

    However, the fact that the MSI and Lenovo laptops which use that screen are limited to 48Hz was enough to put me off. (It was blamed on Intel, but I really doubt that - the fact that the Samsung spec sheet mentions a 48Hz clock is too much of a coincidence!)

    The "mustardy yellow" issue is also widely reported with that panel on the Lenovo, but it's unclear whether Lenovo's firmware is to blame or whether it's the LED controller that's built into the panel that's at fault.
     
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    Jaybee, thanks for keeping the OP up to date. I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates that!
     
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    It may be response time or driver chip limited. I would be surprised if it behaved differently.
     
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    I have the money, but it seems so many things are just constrained or unavailable yet.

    I'm almost at the point of cancelling my order and just continuing to limp along with my temporary Lenovo Thinkpad, waiting for the successor to the P65x products next year. I.e.,
    - Intel 90 series chipset, including more complete NVMe support
    - Intel 5000 series GPUs, with improvements for nVidia Optimus et al.
    - 1TB M.2 2280 NAND devices (possibly with new NVMe support)

    I see the 1TB mSATA (30x50mm) devices are now available, so I suspect the 1TB M.2 SATA 2280 (22x80mm) devices will follow shortly. Most are TLC, but the MLCs seem to be also making their way to mSATA now.

    Hynix has also produced new 1TB M.2 2280 reference designs, including a PCIe 3.0 x4 device with alleged NVMe support. I say "alleged" NVMe support because not everything might be there in the chipset, firmware, OS, etc... to support it end-to-end. There's still a lot of development, let alone optimization, left to do in most NVMe implementations at various levels.
     
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    the wait in the computer world is plain stupid, anything will be improved next year, and next next year, and in Three years etc.

    Nvidia optimus works like a charm with the HD4600.
    Our SSD through PCIe run very well too I don't see the point : M.2 will be developped during 2015, no need to wait for the intel 90
     
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    Yeah, waiting for the perfect laptop will be just that... waiting. It seems there's never that perfect mix of components and technologies, you have to pick the best compromise that works for you.
     
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    Speaking of waiting, my wait is (almost) over! I get to pick it up this morning!

    I'll finally get to see if the facets and chopped corners bother me as much in person as they do in photos. I guess either way I'll have to get used to them - there's no other way to fit this much machine into my tiny budget.

    So excited - my first real gaming notebook ever!
     
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    Same here, I'm not even kidding when I say my current and only system is a Compaq Presario laptop with Intel B970, with Intel Graphics HD 2500. I can only really play Tropico 1 and Counterstrike 1.6. Just Cause 2 is excruciating but I make it work with nearly the lowest resolution and all graphics low/off.

    I have been waiting YEARS to buy a proper gaming desktop/laptop. In 2008, couldn't buy a laptop due to being a broke student. 2009 and 2010, same story. 2011, a broke graduate. 2012 and 2013 had to pay down some significant debts. mid-2014: finally possible for me to divert funds towards a proper gaming laptop but the laptops I wanted were always out of stock or delayed or whatever. We are nearly 2015. Not a day went by during those years where I wasn't reading Tomshardware or Ananadtech. When I say I was waiting since 2008, I really do mean waiting!

    edit: I should mention, the only reason I have my current laptop is because in 2012 I needed something to type on so I bought the bare minimum at the time, from an Australian store, the Compaq set me back the equivalent of only £150.
     
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    Sweet :) Now u have to pay big time for all the games u want to play with this beast haha ;)
     
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