*** Official Clevo P65xSA/SE/SG / Sager NP8650/51/52 Owner´s Lounge ***

ATTENTION NOTEBOOK ENTHUSIASTS!!!

Nvidia has decided to block overclocking on their mobile GPUs starting with the 347.xx driver series, calling it a "bug" that was corrected!

If you find this as unacceptable as I do, please take part in the following petition started by our follow NBR brother iata and survey by MySn in order to bring this development to a halt! Otherwise, machines like the P65xSx series will NOT be developed anymore in the coming years, due to (understandable) lack in mobile enthusiast hardware!

Thank you in advance, much appreciated!

Great news everyone! It seems like the ****storm emanating from the mobile enthusiast community made Nvidia rethink its position:



Source: Geforce-Forums

Thanks for all your support in this, lets hope Nvidia stays true to its word and releases an overclocking-capable driver next month! If not, you all now know exactly what to do

Alright folks, in anticipation of my new rig I thought I'd start a respective owner's lounge

edit: even though my next rig wont be a P651SG after all (P751ZM a.k.a. Batman got a hold of me!), I'll continue to take care of this OP just hit me up via pm or a post in this thread if u want anything important added to the OP. enjoy!

I'll try and keep this post updated with pics, links to reviews, general specs and infos and I'm also hoping to be joined pretty soon by other prospective owners of this awesome Clevo model

Let's get this started!

Cheers!

General Specifications

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Naming system
P650 = brushed metal style chassis
P651 = sandblasted metal style chassis
SE = with 970M 3GB (soldered), 25 mm height
SG = with 980M 4GB (soldered), 29 mm height
SA = with 965M 2GB (soldered), 25 mm height
Clevo P650SE = Sager NP8651
Clevo P650SG = Sager NP8652
Clevo P650SA = Sager NP8650

Clevo Product Websites
P650SE
P651SE
P650SG
P651SG
P650SA
P651SA

Supported CPUs (soldered)
Core i7 4702HQ (not offered yet)
Core i7 4710HQ
Core i7 4720HQ
Core i7 4770HQ (not offered yet)
Core i7 4870HQ (initially offered, then cancelled due to heat issues)
Core i7 4960HQ (not offered yet)
Core i7 4980HQ (SG models only, not offered yet)

Graphics (soldered)
Nvidia Geforce 965M 2048 MB GDDR5 VRAM
Nvidia Geforce 970M 3072 MB GDDR5 VRAM
Nvidia Geforce 980M 4096 MB GDDR5 VRAM
Features: DirectX 12 / OpenGL 4.2 / Nvidia Optimus / Nvidia CUDA / Nvidia PhysX / OpenCL

Chipset
HM87 Lynx Point

RAM
4 sockets DDR3 SODIMM up to 32GB (officially up to 1600 Mhz, unofficially the sky is the limit edit: or rather DDR3-2667 according to Prema )

Soundchip
Realtek ALC892 @ Intel Lynx Point PCH

Display Options
Display lid max. opening angle = 140°
15.6" FHD (1920x1080) matte/glare IPS (model AUO B156HAN01.2)
15.6" WQHD (2880x1620) glare IPS
15.6" QFHD (3840x2160) glare IPS (Samsung with PenTile Matrix or Sharp LQ156D1JX01B with RGB Stripe)

Storage
SE & SA = 1x9.5 mm 2.5" drive or 2x7 mm 2.5" drives @SATAIII (stacked one above the other so 1 9.5mm drive would block the second SATA port)
SG = 1x9.5 + 1x7 mm drives or 2x7 mm 2.5" drives @SATAIII (SG chassis is thicker, thus allows for the 9.5+7 mm option in parallel)
1xM.2 2280 SATAIII/PCIe Gen2 2x/4x Combo port (bootable)
1xM.2 2280 SATAIII port (bootable)
RAID configurations possible among the 2 2.5" SATAIII ports or the 2 M.2 ports in SATAIII mode

Connectivity
4xUSB 3.0
1xHDMI 1.4 (up to 1920x1080@60Hz)
2xminiDisplayport 1.2 (up to 3840x2160@60Hz each)
1xKensington Lock
1xeSATA
Audio: Headphones/Mic/SPDIF
Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/miniSD/SDHC/SDXC)
Fingerprint Reader
SIM Card slot

Network
Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (10/100/1000 Mbit)
M.2 compatible Wifi/3G/4G/Bluetooth adapter (Intel 7265AC, for example)

Dimensions & Weight
25x385x271 mm (SE with 970M and SA with 965M)
29x385x271 mm (SG with 980M)
2.595 kg

150W PSU (SE with 970M & SA with 965M)
167.5x82x25.4 mm / 3.6 m cable (socket to laptop)
0.56 kg

180W PSU (SG with 980M)
170x85x35 mm / 3.6 m cable (socket to laptop)
0.85 kg

Battery
60 Wh Lithium-Ion, 4 cells (4-5 h battery time in a low-load scenario)

Miscellaneous
2.0 MP webcam
Onkyo Soundblaster X-Fi MB3 speakers
Backlit chiclet style keyboard (white color LEDs, three modes: off/medium/full illumination)

Pictures (P651SE from notebookcheck)

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Pictures (P650SG from Sager)

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Reviews

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P65xSE
Review by Notebookcheck
Review by Hardwareluxx
Review by Golem (Battery Boost)
Review by Golem (Full Review)
Review by Aftershockpc Part 1
Review by Aftershockpc Part 2
Review by Eurocom (Unboxing)
Review by Eurocom (Benchmarks)
User-Review by HTWingnut (preliminary)
User-Review by HTWingnut (complete)
Close-Up promotional Video by PCSpecialist UK
Video Review by XoticPC
Review on M.2 Storage by ProStar
Review on Storage by Eurocom
Review on Battery by Eurocom
Review by LinusTechTips

P65xSG
Review by HardwareHeaven
Review by Notebookcheck
User-Review by HTWingnut

Download Section

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P65xSE User Manual
P65xSE Official Specs Sheet
P65xSG Official Specs Sheet
P65xSE Service Manual
P65xSG Service Manual

Mods

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HowTo upgrade Stock 180W PSU to a Dell 240W Model
HowTo fix Intel 7260/7265 Wifi connection troubles
HowTo fix Intel 7260/7265 Wifi connection troubles (2)
HowTo convert one of the internal M.2 connectors into a USB 3.0 connector
HowTo convert a glossy screen into a matte one
HowTo convert a glossy screen into a matte one (2)
PremaMod for P65xSE
PremaMod for P65xSG
Got issues with Killer1525 Bluetooth functionality? Check this post! (And this one as well!)

Driver Download (in case Clevo site is acting up as usual)
MySn / Schenker Win7 and Win 8.1 Driver Download for XMG P505 (=P65xSx)

 

Thanks for starting this thread. We do know that Clevo P650SE (Sager NP8651) and Clevo P650SG (Sager NP8652).

Our video review of the Sager NP8651 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc4ZWlAEqP8&list=UUJ9O0vRPsMFk5UtIDimr6hQ.

 

Prema Mod BIOS for this model is now available (link in my signature).

ENJOY!

 

Also reserved

 

i like where this is heading....

alright, enough for today *yawns* time for bed!

if anyone´s got any more infos than ive already provided in the first post, let me know!

cheers and good night fellas

 

I'm really looking forward to getting the P65XSE, but I'm not sure where to buy from. I kinda wish I could get the P651SE, but so far the only vendor I've found that carries it is in the EU, and it would cost WAY too much to get it shipped to me in the US (I'm on a ridiculously tight budget). I'm also hoping for one that sells to the US that will offer a CPU upgrade. This will be my first upgrade since my Precision M4400, and since I don't get many chances to buy a new laptop, I need to get as much system as I can.

So far, these are the system builders I've found that are offering versions of the P650SE/SG (brushed) and/or P651SE/SG (sanded):

Mythlogic (P650SE/SG): Dia 1614

Eurocom (P650SE/SG): M5 Pro

Schenker (P651SE/SG): XMG P505 Pro

pcspecialist (P650SE/SG): Defiance 15

Aftershock PC (P650SE/SG): Aftershock S-15

Scan (P650SE/SG) 3XS Graphite LG1520

MONSTER® (P650SE) TULPAR T5 V4.1.1

If anybody knows of any others, especially those that are selling in the US and offer a CPU upgrade, please share!

 

Awesome this is great. What I'm looking for! So far this looks like my next laptop.

 

@dabeer: bluemobility and xtreem in poland are also offering the 651 version at a ridiculously low price (because its poland i guess! ) go ahead and check out their configuration pages, i for one thought their prices were insane (identical config that i ordered for like 600€ less :-O)

but if push comes to shove, would it be so bad to get the 650 instead? its just looks, after all, and the important thing (especially on a tight budget) is performance

 

Thanks - I knew I had seen others, but was having a hard time tracking them back down.

Edit: I wonder if I'm getting bad currency conversion rates, but those are coming in at a base price that's about $150 higher than I can get the 650 for here - and that's before importing!

Oh, absolutely. If the 650 is cheaper by anything more than about $10 for the same specs, it'll be 650 all the way. But if I can get the 651, why not?

 

aaah, gotta love those cheap-a$$ US prices

 

Yeah it can make sense to import on occasion.

 

are there any of these models that have IPS?

 

sure, check the first post all of them basically

 

Metabox P157SM - overview - Ultra High-end 3D Gaming Laptop and CAD Laptop

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ummm....different model? thats the P157SM not the P65xSx...

 

I just tried configuring the P651SG on Bluemobility and got an insanely low price, While the listed price is 6200zl ~ 1500€, I got a quote of 5000zl ~ 1200€ on checkout with free delivery and free 3 years guarantee ? Is this site reliable ?

 

whats ur definition of "listed price"? try and redo that config, see if the checkout sum still says the same. this early in the game, its usual that sellers often change their pricing on a daily if not even hourly basis back and forth... saw something similar over at the schenker website, albeit with a smaller scale.

 

The listed price on this page is 6220zl, but when I configure and add the PC to my card, it became 5000zl. I tried making the preorder and they sent me a confirmation email with the price at 5000zl too, dunno why.

Anyway, is this reseller reliable ? I tried to search for some reviews but I find nothing.

 

Thanks to jaybee83 for opening this thread! Yes these models should be a good seller for Clevo - Sager!

 

No clue, but beyond that you might want to reconsider, that appears to have no HDD, SSD, or operating system. If you plan to add all these yourself thats fine, but don't want you making a mistake. It also only has 4gb RAM.

Edit: You can add those all in the configure page, just reminding you to do so.

 

well, i just hope u chose payment on delivery, cuz then it doesnt really matter if that reseller is trustworthy or not, ull just pay for what u get in the end

edit: welcome to the team larry, hope u already have a machine ready for HTWingNut to test and review for us NBR folks

 

Yeah I'm well aware of that. I was comparing the price on the same configuration.

I just got an email from them. Actually the price of 1200 is not included with tax. The real price is 1500€, about the same as other resellers in EU, which is a little out of my reach . Guess I have to make do with GTX970M then.

 

aaah so there lies the culprit ive made the same miscalculation several times in the US already, just cant get used to those price tags without tax/wage/tips included

 

Yes, I have to pay that lovely 20% when I bring a system in too, a least it is just VAT and no other duty.

 

The decision has been made, the order has been placed. Come early November, I will be a proud owner of a Dia 1614 (P650SE) from Mythlogic!

 

Can the laptop boot from the m.2 drive?

 

thats a very good choice my friend!@dabeer

@belegdol: yes it can! both in sata3 and pcie mode

just realized....this is gonna be my first ever uefi/switchable graphics/4k display/non-PATA non-SATA hdd supporting machine i feel like such a newbie, exciting!

 

Awesome! Thanks for the prompt reply.

 

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I would love to see the HT review of this. DO IT HT!

 

Question: what's the difference between the sanded and brushed metal chassis?

 

Maybe Prema would have more info, but I think the current idea is that it's just the appearance.

 

its just a different way the metal chassis was manufactured. the upper layer was either sandblasted, which results in this almost black (and i guess kinda rough/non-smooth) texture, whereas the brushed metal would have a rather shiny and smooth finish.

 

PREFACE: First time poster. Please correct me if I have overlooked some rules.

I really like how Mythlogic breaks down the M.2 options in the Clevo P650Sx, including offering the Plextor M6e x2 and Samsung XP941 x4 options. The XP941 seems to be the clear winner, and the only one really worth going for if one is going to go for PCIe. However, I am a bit concerned with some of the heat issues that some articles are starting to cover when it comes to PCIe connected M2 devices.

Anyone else heard anything?

 

Usually if you want a config that's not offered on the website you can call and ask for something specific.

 

concerning the heat issues, afaik schenker includes thermal pads with M.2 devices that allow them to use the chassis as a huge heatsink. i guess when push comes to shove we users have to come up with our own solutions in order to keep those M.2 drives cool n stable

 

Hi All, I am looking to get one of these the Clevo P650SG. Shipping here from pc specialist in the UK is the 12th November. Can't wait.

 

welcome to the humble P6x0Sx home my friend im also already counting the days until all components will be available at my reseller. so far it looks like ill have to be patient until end of november/beginning of december. BUT: my trusty old P150HM has been revived and is already on its way back, so theres something to pass the time with

 

Are you waiting on the 980m? Or just the 970m? From what a couple of resellers in the US here have seemingly noted, the 970m will arrive first. I'm fine with the 970m personally.

 

check my sig for the config im waiting for but yeah, waiting on 980m/4870hq and the UHD display, theyre all available a bit later. its funny, the higher end the hardware gets with this model, the longer u have to wait for ur machine

 

any pics and videos of sand vs brushed finish ?

 

u can check mysn.co.uk for the sanded version and mythlogic/xoticpc websites for the brushed version

 

Hmm can't find it anywhere on XoticPC's site, is there a new section for it?

 

It's not up on Sager reseller sites as of yet as Sager hasn't listed it. According to Sager rep here on NBR they're expecting to get it released end of this month or early November.

 

Ah ok thanks for clarifying, hoping the others get theirs soon, my only curiosity is heat/fan noise and most of all the keyboard. My friends 9150 EM I couldn't stand the keyboard since you could barely push the keys down, however the W230SS and older models had keys that went down further and more comfortable, hoping that this issue was fixed in the 8258P650SE/SG - P651SE/SG / Sager NP8651 - NP8652 or most all 15.6" variants.

I've got a credit with XoticPC for now just sitting there until I decide on things, though with all these new releases, I'm holding off another week or so to see whats coming up.

 

ah ok, so no preorders for sager and resellers? huh...

 

Until sager give the go ahead/details there is not much you can do.

 

Guys what do you think of those 100°C furmark temp ?
If I choose a 4710HQ+repaste IC7,, it should erase any throttling even with furmark no ?

The second review stated 94°C which is quite high but far from catastrophic.

I'm hesitating between a fangbook edge 6GB 970m or a P65x 980m 4Gig

 

well as they said in the review, that 100C was just when using furmark AND prime95 in parallel for one hour. during regular gaming sessions they did not encounter any throttling whatsoever

 

100c as a highest peak temp worst case loading will be ok.