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Hello guys and gals!

First post here.

I was hoping someone could help me with picking a laptop.

I am VERY interested in getting the Clevo P650RS. Currently I'm deciding between it and the Asus ROG Strix GL502VS.

I like the Clevo for the temps as it seems to be a little bit cooler and quieter from what I read, but I'm liking the Asus because I can't really find any reviews online for the Clevo and I'm not too familiar with the brand. Also, they seems pretty much identical when it comes to specs and even size and weight and it's a tough choice. I was also looking at the Aorus X5 v6, but I read bad things about it's battery life.

First of all, would you reccomend me getting the P650RS over the GL502VS, and why? Or would you reccomend something else?
I would use this laptop mostly on the go, taking it with me to work and on business meetings, everywhere I travel and when at home sometimes use it as desktop replacement for 3D work on programms such as Autodesk Maya and for gaming.
I'd also try to get a laptop with very good build quality, because I just love good craftsmanship and because I'm going to be picking it up and throwing in a backapck and taking it out several times a day.

If I were to get the P650RS I had a couple questions:
-How much does the 4k screen affect battery life?
-How does the i7-6820HK affect battery life and thermals, and is it really worth it?
-From where should I buy it if I want it delivered somewhere in Europe? I live in Montenegro, but I travel often to Serbia and the UK for work, so it could be shipped either place. I'd need one with a european plug (not a UK plug).

Battery life is a relatively important thing for me as I plan to take it with me most of the time - for work and travelling. So, I would sacrifice when it comes to screen resolution and the more powerful CPU if it means I get better battery times.

Thank you for your help!

 

The P650RS is 300g heavier but 2mm thinner, though considering they're gaming laptops, it probably doesn't matter much. Anyways, 4K will decrease battery life, though not a lot. However, Windows scaling will be terrible with that kind of resolution. Try for 1440p or 1080p. For the i7, if it is just for gaming then 6700HQ should suffice as most games are not CPU-bound. Heck, I would have taken an i5 if any reseller actually offered it. I suppose the HK would allow you to underclock it and increase battery life, but you've got to know what you are doing. Anyways, these are just my two cents.

BTW if you want thin and Pascal maybe consider a 2016 Razer? Though they are crazy expensive, if you have the budget they are rather thin (18mm).

 

It's the same weight actually, as I have discovered Asus list it wrong world wide for some reason.

 

@Meaker is correct...the EVOC P650RS-G is the same weight as the ASUS ROG Strix GL502VS-DB71, but is 2mm thinner. Also, the ASUS ROG Strix GL502VS-DB71 is in VERY short supply and very difficult to get at this time.

 

Someone should prod Asus HQ about that. They could land in hot water in quite a few regions for that kind of extended mistake.

 

GL502VS Pros:

• Possibly keyboard
• Icepower Speakers (vs Onkyo Speakers?)
• ASUS SonicMaster
• Smaller power brick (180W vs 200W)
• Better UEFI/BIOS (Clevo ones suck)
• 4K Display Option

GL502VS Cons:

• No Optimus (dGPU always on)
• Max RAM is 32GB, and 2133 MHz (Clevo is 64GB 2400MHz)
• Gamer aesthetics
• Less ports (-1 Type C, -1 MiniDP, combined audio port)
• Stuck to SATA SSDs, while Clevo can go NVME (although performance difference might not be significant)
• Limited supply, apparently

 

Thank you guys, this worked ! after I got into the DOS I wrote "dir" then ECFlash.bat and clicked "y" EC updated !
I tried also Flexicharge option now it works even after restart.

 

Does flexicharger work if you unplug and shut down machine?

 

Hi there, is this BIOS applicable to models without Gsync?

 

Want to know your opinion. I have 6820HK and GTX1070, what will be better option in Nvidia control panel for Physx processing - Auto or GPU?

 

Thanks for the reply!

Yeah the 17 inch Razer is super thin and looks sick but it's hella expensive... They have the New Razer Blade which is 14 inch and has a GTX 1060, but I really want that GTX 1070 power.

Does the P650RS have a 1440p option at all? I thought it was onlt 1080p or 4K. Cause 1440p would be perfect I think.

And do you guys think that most P650RS will have backlight bleeding or are those anomalies on some units? Any ideas on where is the best place to buy it for Europe?

And yeah, I've seen people saying that Asus doesn't mention the correct weight.

Also I don't care much for the speaker as I'd usually use headphones on the go.

Thanks folks! I appreciate the help. It's not every day you spend over 2k dollars on something so I'd like to make the right choice for me.

Edit: Anyone know about build quality between the P650RS and others in the same range? I'd really like somehting that feels good to the touch and is sturdy, not some flimsy plastic.

 

Leave it on auto IMO

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Hi all,
I bought 2 Samsung EVO 850 500GB wanting to run RAID 0. The problem is I only have enough screws (4) on the bay for 1 SSD. Do you guys know any other kind of screw I can possibly use? Or what kind of screws are applicable or where can I possibly get them? I kinda threw away the spare screws bag along with the boxes.
Thanks

 

So I updated the BIOS to .04 and it seems to have gone well. The BIOS screen now says the new version number and everything. The fans though are noticeably louder than they were before. Even at idle they are running whereas before they were completely silent. I do not have Clevo CC installed, so I think the fans are controlled by the BIOS. Any ideas? Should I just bite the bullet and install Clevo CC?

 

I unplugged and shut down after turn on pc it is charging normally.... so flexicharge works only if you dont unplug..

 

go into BIOS and put default optimized configuration save and restart, If you have XTU uninstall it and try using throttlestop to undervolt I have stock processor 6820hk undervolted to -188,5 offset voltage on cpu core/cpu cache temperatures are good and fans dont turn on simple tasks.

 

I wish my 1070 maxed at 70. In average gaming it usually sits around there but in demanding games it'll go ten degrees above that, easy. I've also got the factory ICD.

 

No XTU - that is actually the reason I have avoided Clevo CC since the newer versions come with some XTU processes. I have the 6700HQ and undervolted it by -150 on cpu and cache. I'll go into the BIOS when I get home tonight and look for the default optimized configuration.

I did also set the nVidia Control Panel to be emphasizing performance - could this be the reason the fans are kicking up even at idle if the 1070 is drawing more power?

 

What fan profile? That's even with +150 core and +600mem

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Sorry, I meant with the new bios U got chance to test?

 

I'm writting this after all the help from John (Obsidian-pc, I just don't know how to mention him here lol), so it may help others.

So I have a P650RS with 1070 and after some days trying Witcher 3 at max with temps in the range of 85-90º I did unvervolt today (well, John did it tbh).

As he explained this model is hotter than the P6 and the p670rs. How some people here don't even reach 70ºC with Witcher 3 in the same unit is a mistery to me, but It's happening, so enjoy it to the fullest, you got a super cool laptop some others could be jealous at

Back to the point, in case it helps anyone, I leave this there:

Idle
GPU: 53C
CPU: 48C

Witcher 3 max 1080 fan auto
GPU: 88C
CPU:82C

Witcher 3 max 1080 fan max
GPU: 83C
CPU: idk

After undervolting -125mV by John

Idle
GPU: 53C
CPU: 41C

Witcher 3 max 1080 fan auto
GPU: 79C
CPU: 56C

Witcher 3 max 1080 fan max
GPU: 75C
CPU: 52C

Still higher than some others here, but the temp drop from undervolting it's been insane, so I definitely recommend everyone to do it. I still have to try a cooling pad and any other reccomendation you may have, but 75C is way better and less hot than the previous 88C.

I hope this helps

 

bios 1.05.04 EC 1.05.03RT after un plug flexicharge dont works.

 

I'm guessing the difference between your system and my system is the paste. I would open up the unit just to see if there is any pump-out of the factory paste jobs. @Jared_T has some experience with this:

 

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but what do you guys/gals recommend on the monitor front? I'm looking for something with 120hz an less than $500 to connect to my 650. Thanks in advance!

 

My P650RS-G should arrive tomorrow! Got this to replace my 2015 Razer Blade, and mostly use it for work and travel, with occasional gaming. After checking out the pricing on a new Blade seemed like this was a good option, has a 1070 instead of 1060, even if it is a little bit larger and heavier. I got:

6820HK
4K display
512GB X400 M.2
Windows Pro (need to encrypt the disk)
16GB RAM
Intel 8260

1TB SSHD on order from Amazon.

Bought from LPC Digital. Yes, no Prema Bios, but also no CA state tax.

I'll report back on temps and screen once I have it in hand. I ordered with ICD, so hopefully I wont have to repaste myself.

 

If I recall correctly, someone here mentioned that LPC (I also ordered from Larry) supports the PREMA BIOS.

 

My guess is you see a difference since cpu and gpu share a heat pipe

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Guys, do you think I can safely flash previous EC? 1.05.02TR1 was in my opinion better (with version 1.05.03TR fans spins up too much).

 

That would be (good) news to me ... no mention on the site at all.

 

Sadly, flexicharge stops working if i turn on laptop before plugging ac. Latest BIOS 1.05.05
Edit: Wait... So after I turned on, I plugged ac and says charging. But when I checked now, it says not charging @ 93% (I set mine to stop @ 80%). Maybe... It works.

 

For those with 4k, is it worth it? For games that can't handle 4k, does scaling to 1440p look fine?

My desktop monitor is 4k and I love it, but some games can't handle it so I have to scale to 1440p. It looks great still on my monitor, so I'm hoping it looks great on the laptop. Or should I just save the money and stick with higher Framerates?

I mostly play MMO and online games (ESO, FFXIV, overwatch, etc).

 

The laptop scaling is going to be similar (it's handled by the nvidia GPU).

 

Cool. I work a lot on web design so I'm use to the higher resolution on my MacBook pro. Id like something similar.

 

I have this model and playing Witcher3 Ultra settings temps are below 70C.

HIDevolution used ICD paste on GPU and CLLU paste on CPU which I think makes a difference.

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I really like the 4K monitor. It won't scale well to 1440p but should scale well to 1080p (I haven't played with this - I like 4K too much).

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Would love you to try to play with it sometime and let us perspective buyers know!

Itd be awesome if the 4K screen could be scaled back to 1080p flawlessly and beautifully if needed for future more demanding titles.

 

I've had two of the Sagers with 1070s and the Flexicharger doesn't work. Well it works the first time you set it in the bios only. Next time you turn it on, off, unlplug it, whatever it just charges back to 100%. And Sager doesn't release bioses unless you email them. They really should fix their **** and post a bios like any normal company. Hell I just had to flash my desktop 1070's due to the Micron/Samsung memory fiasco. It was easy since they just put a windows executable out that you click and it just does it..

 

Guys, Equatis did a follow up video on his NP8153/P650RS review answering some of your questions: namely 4k/1080p scaling. Prospective buyers should check it out!

 

Re: scaling - have played WoW in both 4k and 1080p, you can tell because you're looking for a difference, but it's not fuzzy or scaled poorly.

 

Back to 1.05.02TR1 with no problems at all.
1.05.03TR make worse not only fan tables but also bring ACPI errors.

 

Thanks for the answer. I'll most certainly look at that. Although my unit is supposed to have kryonaut paste, which should be superior to ICD on paper.

I'm by no means an expert in applying past, so I'm not sure if I could achieve a better result.

Also, this last video is quite more similar to my unit. Actually it feels like it is the same laptop (well... It really is). I can't imagine a thermal paste application technique alone to change temps by 15+C, but it's certainly a possibility if one's flawless and the other one terrible

 

Hey guys,

I'm inbetween whether or not I want to buy the new Alienware 13 R3 with OLED, 6700HQ, 1060, or the NP8153-S with 4k, 6820HK, and 1070.

As far as build quality goes, how do you think they compare?

 

they're both great but Alienware is a bit better. Nothing major though. The Clevo has better hardware and if you buy it from a Prema Partner, you'd get the Prema BIOS/VBIOS which totally unlocks this beast's potential which you won't get on the Alienware:

You can contact [email protected] to get your NBR Forums Member Discount: EVOC P650RP6 15.6" Custom Built Gaming Laptop w/ nVIDIA GTX 1060 w/ G-Sync

Benefits of Prema BIOS:

• The ability to disable other drives connected to your system without physically removing them from your laptop, this comes in handy when installing Windows as you never want to have more than one drive connected at the time you are installing Windows otherwise the Windows setup will place the boot files on the 2nd drive it sees which hurts performance and makes it a headache when creating system images or restoring since the boot files are not on the main drive.
• The ability to overclock, increase Turbo Power Limits and System IA/Core Current Limits
• The ability to enable Intel Speed Shift Technology (it is disabled in the stock BIOS)
• The ability to run RAM with speeds higher than the standard 2133 MHz. I am not talking about overclocking here, I am talking about actual RAM sticks that are rated to run at 2800 MHz for example like the G.Skill 64GB 2800 MHz kit I have. With the stock BIOS, they will not run above 2400 MHz. In the case of the P870DM3, the stock BIOS now supports up to 2666 MHz. I believe but not more, so the Prema BIOS is a must again
• The ability to enable CSM for those who want to install other OSes like Windows 7
• The ability to undervolt the CPU as the stock voltage is way too high which causes the CPU to overheat much quicker and thus throttle under load.
• The ability to enable or disable CPU AES instructions or Virtualization
• The ability to disable hibernation from the BIOS

Benefits of Prema VBIOS:

• Power throttle disabled
• Over-voltage slider enabled and adjusted (up to a maximum of 1.2v)
• Activated and adjusted thermal slider (to keep it cooler if desired)
• Core overclock slider limit raised
• Power consumption meter activated
• Fixed 3D voltage base-line in order to stabilize OCs and voltage-match both cards in SLI systems (based on average ASIC)
• Thermal protection @ 92c (once*91c are breached the system throttles volts and clocks in order to protect it)
• Protection against Furmark and Kombustor GPU burnout (AVOID those software even with stock vBIOS)!

 

Ok lol, you've persuaded me. But I thought the Prema bios for these machines isn't out as of yet?

edit: and how much is the discount?

 

It's in the works bro but that means the moment it's out they will flash it for you remotely

I don't know the discount bro it's best to email him and bear in mind they have the fastest RAM choices and best SSD options

 

I looked at the 650rs at HID , and the only difference I could tell was a $200 increase for the Prema BIOS and a one year warranty instead of 2 everywhere else. i ultimately ordered from LPC digital with the intention of donating to obtain Premas BIOS when available.

 

I'm using the default fan profile. It ramps up but stays relatively quiet, so maybe that's the issue. I could force them higher but even running at 80 degrees I'm not concerned. I still need to undervolt the 6820 but I'm waiting for the Prema bios so I can do it in there.

 

guys, could you please tell me, because I ordered Clevo P650RP6-G and...

I dont know what the G-sync acutally is, and whats are the benefits.
may I dissable it? or its permanent?
If I dissable it I will get more fps, lower temperatures etc?

Someone? Thank you

 

A bad paste job makes a huge difference with this unit. That's why I pointed you to that thtead.

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