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@wickette i'm an idiot. forgot that the p670 has a g-sync panel. no wonder the load was so low as well. though usually benchmarks are run with g-sync off to see just how high the numbers can go.

 

The backorder is killing me...

 

*uses super potion on gooface

 

Tier 3 means you should have a good understanding of the basic mechanics. Some tactics like torso twisting/shielding and proper peaking technique take a lot of practice to perfect. Another important thing is take an optimized or meta mech. Taking a sub-optimal build makes the game hard when your up against people using more efficient builds. Checkout metamechs.com for more info. The author of that website is an officer on the #2 rated team and everyone respects his advice.

 

I was also shocked by the 3000 valley score. My desktop 970 gets 2700 stock. I'm hoping the 1070 in a laptop will be significantly higher once we figure out how to bench it correctly. Use the ExtremeHD preset @1080p. Should look like this attachment. I think desktop 1070s are getting around 4000.

 

Last night I was piloting a Mauler 4x AC5, 4x ML.

I REALLY suck with that one. Haha!

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Ok, back on topic.

Can one get an NP8152 with 4820HK?

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Looking at the specs... the NP8152 & NP8153 are the exact same size and weight?

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I'll PM you about Mechwarrior online so we don't pollute this thread anymore. The NP8152 can't get the 6820hk. The 8152 with the 6700k and GTX1060 is thinner than the 8153 which has the 6820hk and 1070 (.98" vs 1.13"). I believe the extra thickness is due to the increased cooling from the extra heatpipe which Meaker mentioned.

 

Gentech needs to update the specs on their page. I guess i skimmed Meaker's post.

1.13" is much thinner than 1.811" (P170SM-A)

 

IF I buy new I think I would want the 6820HK. Not sure I am going that route at all...

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My Evoc p670rs-g is on its way

 

How much of the international warranty did you get? if anything breaks, its going to be pain!

 

6700hq or 6820hk? U had a hard time making your mind up lol

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Probably what's in his sig. 6820hk.

 

Something cool I just saw. The mobile gtx 1070 actually has 2048 cuda cores and the desktop one has 1920. They then underclocked it by 50mhz. Presumably this gave better thermal performance. However if we gave it a modest 50mhz oc, and assuming it didnt throttle too much, would the laptop card not be more powerful than the desktop variant?

 

Pretty sure the clock speed is like 200 below the desktop not 50. 1645 vs 1886 Mhz desktop vs laptop. But yeah overclocking for us will have better yields comparatively because we have more cores.

 

Just checked a few sites including anandtech and looks like boost clock on desktop 1070 is 1683mhz. Its probable that many oems OC out of box though. This bodes well for the mobile card though!

 

Notebookcheck lists the desktop 1070 as 1506 base and 1886 boost. That may encompass all models though. The base clocks are about 50 apart so you may be right. We'll see soon.

 

Well theoretically yes, but from what I have read and experienced I believe we could never have enough cooling in a laptop chassis to overclock anywhere close to an overclocked desktop variant. Also when you have more of the SM enabled like the laptop 1070 does you have more heat and more chances of a subpar sample. But I would be tempted to buy a laptop 1070 and modify it for my desktop with water cooling. But then your probably spending about 1080 just for the "laptop 1070".

Ok I have a question about the Clevo P650RS, I have decided on the Sager 8153 and probably going with Xoticpc due to several factors but mostly price . I am going with the 6700hq and 4k screen (has G-sync, I like eye candy and do not play fast twitch games) so when I build a desktop I love using IC diamond and I noticed that EVOC has this so I was going with them but then i noticed the warranty was better at Xotic and they have the upgrade posted below.
1. Has anyone ever compared this specific upgrade on a matching laptop without.
2. Should I even bother since im getting the 6700hq or does it have throttling issues (I am also an engineer student and I run some extensive 3d programs but i have a 4790k oc'd to 4.6 for 70% of the time)
3. Should I just buy the 6820hk with this upgrade if im just gaming
4. would 6820hk benefit from this upgrade a lot
5. I'm not spending the money on nvme so should i get sata ssd or m.2 (i already have a 256gb 840 evo sata so probably just a 512gb to help)
6. Wait for Kaby Lake?
"The Cooling Package" - IC Diamond Thermal Compound + Copper Cooling Upgrade (XPC Service)(SKU: SGR13237)
[ +$79.00 ]

Normally I would just wait for reviews but the 4k screen has a longer and longer wait time every day (9-20 now) and I wanted to get this soon into my semester as my old a10 is getting long in the tooth.

 

How's the p650rs shaping up against the msi gt62vr? Finding it a challenge to separate the two and they seem to be the from runners at this screen size , particularly interested in the cooling capability of the p650

 

I actually just ordered a Sager NP8153-S last night so ill try to help out from what Ive read.
1. As far as the ic diamond goes, it came default on the special version, but you should be able to get for $30 if you go for the normal edition. I did order through lpc digital though. From my reading the ic diamond gives a pretty decent improvement over generic/stock cooling pastes. Nothing crazy but a few degrees Celsius from what ive heard.
2. The paste is applied to both the gpu and the cpu. For the gpu alonr I would say its worth it, but it cant hurt to improve thermal efficiency on the cpu as well.
3. Im not sure if the 6820hk is worth it or not. If you oc then you are tackling with thermal issue. Most games arent even close to cpu bound. If you are doing 3d rendering maybe it would help a little bit. All depends on budget.
4. I think the 6820hk would likely benefit from improved cooling more especially if OCd.
5. The "special" version i got came with a 256gb m2 sata ssd and a 1tb hdd which is fine for my uses. Im not positive but I thought the laptop has 2 normal sata slots. Since you cant get an hdd in m2(afaik) i would try to leave a normal sata slot open for a large hdd if you ever need it and put your ssds on m2 slots. basically I would drop your sata ssd into one of the sata slots, and then get a second m2 sata ssd.
6. Unless im rendering videos on my cpu, it is rarely taxed. Unless intel pulls an nvidia on us this year, im anticipating 5-10% performance improvement which in my case isnt worth the wait.

This was something I went back and forth on for awhile. As far as cooling goes, from what ive read and seen, the clevo has one of the best solutions for its size. 2 fans and 3 copper heatpipes for the gpu. And a 3rd fan with 2 pipes dedicated to the cpu. However, you have to keep in mind that the clevo is far more portable than the msi. I believe the msi is just under 2 inches thick whereas the clevo is barely over 1 inch thick. Thats a lot more space to dissipate heat. The clevo is mostly aluminum as well and ive heard nothing but great things about the build quality. To me it came down to the clevo offering more for my money, while being more portable and likely better build quality. Hope that helps a little.

 

Don't wait for Kaby Lake not worth it. If you want to overclock the 6820hk I'd recommend HID as they will apply liquid ultra which will help more than IC Diamond. If you don't overclock it its not worth paying extra over the 6700hq for.

I mean the GT62 is a lot thicker. Saw one in person recently, and seems to be a serious build quality improvement from the GT60 but its still significantly fatter than a P650RS, the P750 is more its thickness.

 

Thanks for the responses ! I agree its much thicker , I'd be happy to accept that if it meant vastly better cooling, features and quality. From what you guys are saying, it sounds like they are quite close. The only thing really putting me off the clevo is the lack of information (that I've been able to find) on the CPU and gpu temps under load and whether there's anything throttling going on.

 

nothing but I made the calculation and
one year of international would cost me 150$.
if something breaks, shipping the notebook in the US (went and back to italy) would cost me 164$. Moreover I have up to 90 days do extend the warranty from US only to international. And I don't think it would be much likely that it breaks more than one time. I mean I should be very
unlucky. And if that happens i know who to blame for making the evil eye on me

I trust HID Evolution guys and asked them to have a special care for my order when they test it since it would be troublesome having to send the notebook back to them. So I have some space for further move I think.

In the end there are only half Europe, the f****** Atlantic and the whole US to separate me from HID Evolution ... yep, if anything breaks, its going to be pain!

 

Is there much reason to get the p750dm2 over the p650rs? Aside from price.

 

@HardCore88 Did you end up going with 4k?

I just ordered mine also with 6820HK and with FHD.

 

Cooling/desktop CPU along with removable GPU/CPU and thunderbolt for the 750/NP91xx series.

 

Thanks. Think p650 is the way for me once some more info on temperatures and throttling is available.

 

i have seen three p650rs with 1070
their furmark clock is different，at same setting，1201，1240，1260
seems like every 1070 graphic card has its own voltage ，the voltage is different
and one p650 firestrike extreme graphic socre up to 8250
other p650 is about 7650 to 7850

 

I went for the 17" and there is no option for 4K display in hte 17" model

 

someone made a nice guide to buying a new 10 series laptop. if anyone is interested. http://alteredqualia.com/texts/notebooks/

 

Looking at your spec that is pretty much exactly what I ordered. Only difference is I did not add SSDs or HDDs as I have my own ready to install

 

I'm about to order an old version of Clevo?
Some others have, for example, keyboards with the possibility of multiple colors that change while the one I look at is just white back round illuminated.
http://pc-konsulten.se/produkt/ivy-gaming-laptop-172-p-config/

 

reviews of the older clevo p650 models showed only a white backlight. The new one says it has user controllable color zones.

 

what else is changed ?

 

Aside from the internals, unfortunately I dont know. Nobody has much info on the new one yet. Mine will probably show up later next week and I can try to answer questions.

 

What version are you looking to buy? if I know that I can tell you the difference.

Also with the new version I believe the retailer can choose to install a White backlit keyboard or the new multi colour version

 

Im plan to buy that One i linked to all i know that its P670RS-G

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I've noticed that the 4k displays don't seem to be available with the 1060, only with 1070. Does anyone know if that's likely to change? I'm aware the 1060 won't be very good for AAA gaming at 4k, but I remember being able to order Clevos with 4k and a 970m, which would obviously be an even worse match.

 

that one has a color keyboard according to sagers website. Im not sure if other vendors also supply colored keyboards with it. That is one of the newest clevo models that comes with pascal. What do you wish to know about it?

 

I dont Care about the keyboard Color actually. But is the screen and cooling system the same?

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Also can i disable optimus ?

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Yes they are both the same clevo model. The only difference is the reseller. The hardware should be identical. heres a link to the 15 inch version of the laptop from clevos website. The 17 inch version doesnt have any info on their website for some reason, but they are very similar aside from screen size. http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=937&lang=en

 

Im not sure. Ive heard it has some form of gpu switching but, ive also heard that doesnt work with g sync. So I really dont know.

 

Thx for the usefull information

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http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Schenker-XMG-P507-Clevo-P651RP6-G-Notebook.171275.0.html
test is out for 1060 version

 

Cool review. Gave a pretty good idea of what to expect. Im curious how the cooling and fan noise will be on the RS versions with the 1070. They are a bit thicker and supposedly have an extra heat pipe. They also said that schenker released a bios update for the fans to make them less aggressive but they couldnt get it to install. Would be interesting to see how that effects the sound.

Edit: for example here is a link to a p670 model review. http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-P705-Clevo-P670SA-Notebook-Review.134178.0.html which i believe is the same thickness and cooling that will be in the 15 and 17 inch RS laptops. Its a bit quieter than the rp6 and uses a less efficient gpu. Will have to wait and see.

 

after I read that review, I wonder if the 1060 GTX is still enough for me to just play 1080p. Had plans in 1070, but maybe I should think about it again
btw really good temperature and guessing that Rs 17 inch version will have slightly better temperature

 

the 1060 should be good enough to play most 1080p games at max or close to max settings. I went with the 1070 for future proofing. And you can run games with nvidia dsr at higher resolutions to improve picture quality with the extra power.