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Why dormant? Work sucking up your time?

 

yes and no, most m.2 haven't mature and even the fastest out so far seems to be just good for a few numbers and in reality they aren't that great. pcie 3.0 x4 lanes sounds damn fast but actual performance just plain sad, probably at this point controller just isn't fast enough. that aside, temperature, no hardware raid means write cache off, lots of turn off. i could still use the sequential though for sure.

 

What are you basing just sad off of? There has not been a faster solid state single controller non volatile solution ever developed.

 

no hardware raid, i could achieve greater speed with 3 Sata SSD in raid 0 with bettery latency, consistency and superb 4k random read/write because of stripe size, which m.2 ssd lacks.

only thing m.2 has right now is sequential, everything else is just like a regular 2.5" SSD

 

Hello if i want one of those with a xeon for virtualization purpose where i should buy?

 

4k random speed is unlikely to improve much even under hardware raid, I'd be interested in seeing those numbers but hardware raid is a different beast entirely and the resources required just don't mesh with the notebook world.

 

i can feel that intel ssd on intel chipset would clock high, don't see why they won't try to dominate the ssd space with upcoming chipset, surely with their greed some plan is in place lol

 

people with OC 4930K/4960X, now long can you survive the Intel Extreme Tuning Stres Test before the temp hits system shutdown?

 

It's never the temp that triggers shutdown really, it's too much voltage stressing the VRMs. If you set it right, it wont shut down.

 

Well, with ArticSilver5 on my CPU, my P570MW shutdown after around 5-10 sec with the Intek stresstest at 4.3Ghz on 1.25Voltage because of what I think was to high temperature (95 degree) but after I changed the AS5 with Liquid Ultra, I now can run the stresstest for maybe 2-3 min before the temperature reach 95 degree and then shutdown. I see the temperature is not climbing that fast at all anymore.

 

What paste did you use and what thermal pads did you use to lower heatsink as much as possible?

 

Hello guys,

I received yesterday my first SAGER laptop, the wonderful NP9570! I'm posting here because I'd like to know if what I'm experiencing happens to you too...

While playing games the section below my left wrist (while using the AWSD area of the keyboard) gets very hot, especially if compared to the right side of the laptop which I find almost cool even under heavy usage. After a while it becomes a little uncomfortable and I have to "rest" my left hand and pause the game. Checking CPU and GPU temperatures nothing is wrong or too high, pretty normal stuff. Is this standard procedure for this beast?

Thank you for your help!

 

Do you have anything in the pci expresscard slot?

 

I didn't put anything inside but I didn't actually check if inside there is the classic plastic card that keep the hole covered. I'll check as soon as I get back home. You think something that small would do that?

 

Meaker,

you were right! The plastic fake card that keep the hole covered was inside. I'll test it again to see how the cooling system works now. Thanks for your reply

 

It may help, it does tend to get warm on that side.

 

Even if I just got the laptop maybe can be a good idea to use some thermal paste.

 

Always a good idea, as the factory paste job invariably uses too much paste.

 

One thing I noticed is that I can't really hear the fan working 100% while GPU and CPU are stressed (game etc) they just seem to go at the same speed all the time.
Maybe It's me...before this one I had an ALIENWARE 14 and it was pretty noisy during games.

Anyway I tried Battlefield 3 (my system is not SLI) and it still gets very hot on the left side. I'll try with the paste tomorrow!

 

Games don't tend to use all 6 cores so it does not need to cool the cpu much.

 

Yep, GPU is right under the left side of the laptop if I'm not wrong

 

The CPU and GPUs are under the touchbar side of the notebook.

 

Unfortunately I don't have a screw driver small enough to reach the last two screws that I need to remove in order to get to the GPU chip and apply some paste.
In the meanwhile...do you know if there is any way to check/control the fan speed? Checking online and using different software I can't get it to work.
Thanks again for sharing helpful information about this incredible laptop

 

well haswell E around the corner with broadwell E + 20nm next year may as well wait for that instead. intel mentioning broadwell desktop runs much cooler than previous gen, i'd like to see that happening.

 

Consider the delay between the x79 launch and the p270wm planned release date.

 

Hi, that part of my notebook gets very hot sometimes, but not that hot that I can't continue to play however if I leave a sdcard there for five minutes it gets really hot that I can't touch it

and about the fans, my gpu fans ( mine is SLI ) seems never gets to 100% even when I play watchdogs and I feel the lagging in the game.

my CPU fan (the bigger one) starts to sound like a truck since two month ago, be careful when you cleaning it

 

Watchdogs is just poorly coded.

 

Watch Dogs doesn't seem to be able to use the hardware properly. The first indication of the problem is that it runs 8C cooler than Far Cry 3 despite (or maybe because of) crappy frames. I mean most of the time I don't go much above 60 frames, and even just looking at a static object I've seen the frames jump from 60 to 68, back down to 57 then to 62 again. The ridiculous frame variance is what causes the crazy stutter especially when driving.

 

I must say that my CPU runs pretty cool. I've never seen it above 60/65 Celsius. I applied new thermal paste on the GPU instead and "gained" a few degrees, in runs around 75/78 Celsius now while playing TOTAL ROME 2 maxed out.
What's your GPU temperature while running heavy games?

 

When you gain temps you may have not put enough or even put too much. If you have some more try doing it again.

 

use liquid ultra get best results. i remeber the delay from 270 to 570, but w/e I can wait lol, haswell E isn't all that good imo, I can wait for broadwell or skylake, all depend on how clevo make their mobo.

 

I have 85 Celsius in my logs, consider it is 37 Celsius outside

 

Hi!
My bad, I meant to say gained in "positive" meaning is a few degrees cooler. Max temp I've seen now is 78 while before applying the paste it was 80/82 C

 

which paste did you apply?

 

I'll try that! Thank you

I applied The one that came with the laptop. I think the layer of paste that I found on the GPU was a little too thick.

 

Thanks for clarifying that, guess I could have interpreted it that way too :thumbsup:

 

Do you guys by any chance know a way to tweak the fans in order to have them kick in whenever I need them to or at a specific temperature (that is not 90 C)?

 

Hi guys,

Are there any plans for Clevo to support these new Haswell E processors? Considering the P570WM/3 support the 4960X CPU, I was just wondering.

 

there isn't at the moment although that would be nice.

that will be up to clevo but I am looking into desktop now or something like a mobile server with two xeons and 3 screens, clevo needs to step up the mobo lol

 

It's a new chipset so the current machines wont take haswell-E.

 

Hopefully they'll update them to support these Haswell-E CPUs?

 

It's a new chipset, it's a complete motherboard redesign with new memory type to boot.

 

Would it be possible to replace the old motherboard with a new one? I just ordered a 9570, can't wait!

 

The design could change a lot due to the large changes so unlikely.

 

I wonder if they will even be able to make one until Skylake... Does Clevo delid the chips in the 9570?

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Nope. I don't even think the stock retention bracket would work without the IHS, so you'd need a special retention mount to hold down a delidded chip. (M6E = Maximus VI Extreme)

 

Would be impressive since intel attaches them with solder on the -e series CPUs. Just the same as any other system.

 

Well, at least the x79 board should be good for a few years. I plan on keeping my np9570 4820k 880m sli laptop for 4+ years. I dont think any game that comes out within that time will be unplayable on this beast. Especially with the capacity to upgrade the GPU's with prema's mod. the 4820k @ 4.2-4.4 ghz is an amazing chip for sure!

 

Is there any reason you skipped the hex core CPUs for the 9570? Most people buy the 9570 for the hex cores, otherwise a "real" laptop would've done just fine.

 

The platform will be valid for some time yes, I also wonder why not hex core though?