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You don't need dual PSUs with the 980M. And I didn't know that Eurocom has 120hz panels.
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They even have 2133MHz CL11 Corsair Vengeance RAM for sale in the configurator. They have the absolute highest selection of parts I've ever seen.
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I got over 200W each out of my 780M cards when pushing them to the limit
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/111552242627?nav=SEARCH
Hmm... Lmao. I guess when you charge as much for the machines as they do, you can source all the parts in the world
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Here's Xotic:
Here's Eurocom:
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Its where I got mine. It's genuine Clevo.
I'm running 4.2GHz core at stock voltage on my CPU and dual 980Ms on a single PSU without issue. If you push the voltage on your 970s to the 1.2v limit you'll probably overload a single PSU. When I was messing with my 880s that sucked a lot more power, I didn't overload until the 1.2v mark with turbo turned off on the CPU when I fired up 3dmark11. Seriously you need to be doing some serious overclocking to overload a single PSU with this machine.
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Eurocom is a Clevo reseller, I bet Clevo has different rules.
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System and Display EUROCOM X8 Workstation Edition
Choose your LCD Display 120Hz; 17.3-inch (43.9cm) FHD 1920x1080; MATTE (Non-Glare) Wide Viewing Angle; eDP; LP173WF2
Discover the Difference with Display Calibration Professional Display Calibration with .icc Profile Saved on CD-ROM Disk
Processor / CPU 2.90 GHz (up to 3.90); Intel Mobile Core i7-4910MQ; 4C/8T; 8MB L3; 22nm; FCPGA946; 47W; DDR3L-1600/1866
CPU Heatsink - Thermal Paste IC Diamond 7 Carat Thermal Compound for Maximum Performance
GPU / Graphics Technology Dual VGA support (SLI and CF); up to 100W per card; Modular MXM 3.0b; Upgradeable
VGA / GPU Graphics Options SLI; 16GB; 2x 8GB GDDR5; NVIDIA GTX 980M (N16E-GX); 1536 CUDA; GPU/VRAM Clock 1038MHz/2500MHz; Maxwell (28nm); MXM 3.0b; 2x 103W
GPU Heatsink - Thermal Paste IC Diamond 7 Carat Thermal Compound for Maximum Performance
Memory (RAM) Configuration - Fully Upgradeable 16GB; 2x 8GB; DDR3L-2133; CL11; 204-pin; Corsair Vengeance; 1.35V-1.5V; 2 SODIMMs
Biometric Fingerprint Device Built-in Fingerprint Reader
Embedded Security Chip Embedded TPM 1.2 Security Chip for Data Encryption
USB 3.0 Ports Built-in 4x USB 3.0 and 1x USB 2.0 Ports
DisplayPort Adapters, Cables and Converters None - choose from the options below:
eXpansion Modules for 2-3 External Displays None - Choose from the options below
Internal mSATA SSD (1st) 250GB; mSATA3 SSD; MLC; Samsung 840 EVO; SATA3 (6Gb/s)
Internal mSATA SSD (2nd) 250GB; mSATA3 SSD; MLC; Samsung 840 EVO; SATA3 (6Gb/s)
RAID 0/1/5/10 Options for Storage Performance and Recovery RAID 0 setup - for maximum performance
1st Hard Drive. Choose Regular, Solid State or Hybrid Drive: 2TB (2000GB); 5400rpm; SATA3 (6Gb/s); 32MB cache; Samsung Spinpoint M9T; 9.5mm
2nd Hard Drive 2TB (2000GB); 5400rpm; SATA3 (6Gb/s); 32MB cache; Samsung Spinpoint M9T; 9.5mm
3rd Hard Drive 2TB (2000GB); 5400rpm; SATA3 (6Gb/s); 32MB cache; Samsung Spinpoint M9T; 9.5mm
Internal Card Reader 9-in-1 Card Reader; MMC/RSMMC; SD/MiniSD/SDHC/SDXC; MS/MS Pro/MS Duo
Optical Drive 6x Blu-Ray WRITER; Tray; SATA; Pioneer BDR-TD05; BD-R XL; 100/128GB media support; w/ software
External Optical Drive None - Choose from the options below
Choose Your Keyboard (Language) Backlit; English; USA/Canada; QWERTY
Operating System(s) Microsoft Windows 8.1; 64-bit; OEM; w/ DVD Media Disk
Office and Business Productivity Software None - Choose from the options below
Wireless LAN 2-in-1; 802.11b/g/n WLAN + Bluetooth 4.0; up to 300Mbp/s; Bigfoot Killer Wireless-N 1202; Atheros AR5B22
TV Tuner (Internal and/or External) None - Choose from the options below
Bluetooth for Wireless Devices Optional available via WLAN / Wireless Option
Digital Content Creation; Multimedia & Graphics; CAD, CAE & CAM; 3D & Animation None - Choose from the options below
Built-in Web Camera Two webcams: 5M (front cover) and 1M (backcover); FHD
Built-in Subwoofer Built-in Subwoofer Module
Standard Battery (internal) 8-cells; Smart Li-Ion Battery
Standard AC Adapter 660W (2x 330W) AC Adapter; Auto-switching ;100-240V w/Converter Box (for Maximum XTU/OC/SLI Performance)
Standard Power Cord - included USA / Canada
Carrying Case None - Choose from the options below
Choose Your Warranty Plan 1 Year Return to Factory Depot with 1 Year of Tech Support
Options
Choose Extra Battery 8-cells Smart Li-Ion battery
Eurocom wants 5570.00 for this configuration. I am not sure that is worth the difference from the Titan at 3699.00 with 2 year warranty.
Is there a Clevo US Retailer that will offer all of these services with the 120HZ screen installed?
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You can't compare the Titan and that configuration... 6TB worth of hard drives plus two 250GB SSDs? You chose to go for dual PSU which you can't do with MSI... You've got a 4910MQ instead of board soldered crap that won't hold turbo... The list goes on and on.
And no, no US reseller has the 120hz screen.
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There is no other seller that I am aware of that carries the 120Hz panel, though it is possible to purchase the 50pin eDP from somewhere and buy it there.
PLEASE make sure you're in "USD" and not "CAN" at the top of the page.
PLEASE do not purchase 840 Evos. Get Plextors or M550s or something for the mSATA SSDs.
Also stick with the 7260ac wireless card over killer wireless. Trust me.
Anyway, my advice is this: get the 3 year warranty. Avoid the mSATA SSDs and the 2TB HDDs; get the machine stock for those, and buy your own drives from Amazon or somewhere. The same goes for the RAM. The 2133MHz vengeance RAM is $180 on Amazon for 16GB. Eurocom is charging $200 OVER the already-installed RAM. You could even ask them for the machine without RAM if you want to buy your own sticks; they might drop the price a bit to sell you without RAM. -
I have decided not to get the Titan and I want this machine. I also want this machine before socket CPU's go obsolete.
Should I buy from a US retailer and put my own 120HZ screen in it?
I am afraid that if I have problems with Eurocom machine and have to return it from US it will be difficult.
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Lol he doesn't have this machine.
Anyway, I would buy the machine from Xotic and if you feel confident, you can install the 120hz panel yourself. An alternative though is to just overclock the stock display. Depending on the panel, you'll probably be able to squeeze 80hz easy, probably closer to 100hz which is a negligible difference from 120. Really the only reason they had the 120hz panels in the first place was because they used to have 3D machines that required it. Now that they don't release 3D machines anymore, it may just be too costly to offer the 120hz option.
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Should i just buy it barebones with basic stuff and just buy everythingn else from Amazon and put it in myself?
I want to get the 4940MX 4 GHZ because I want the best. Is this a mistake?
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I would stick with the 4910MQ you had in your Eurocom build. They have a lower TDP so they tend to overclock as well or better than the MX. The MX is a waste of money. If I could redo my build I'd have dropped the MX.
http://www.laptoppartsnow.com/j01150mclac12.html
That's the converter box for running two PSUs in case you missed it earlier.
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Also I have 2 Samsung 840 EVO SSD's and they are great.
http://www.hidevolution.com/clevo-h...der-ultra-high-performance-gaming-laptop.html
EDIT: If you are stupid rich.. you can get:
"2TB RAID 0 SSD w/ Startech 25SAT22MSAT Dual mSATA Adapter - 2 x Samsung 840 EVO 1TB mSATA SSD"
in each of the three HDD spots for 8 TB's of SSD space with the two mSATA slots.Last edited: Mar 2, 2015 -
Crucial M550 over the 840 Evo any day...
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HIDEvolution is a direct Clevo reseller. With how much hassle Clevo gives Sager over fixing things, I wouldn't buy a machine that has a Clevo warranty.
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I have this machine and I can clock my display to 80 hz. It runs perfectly fine and at 80fps I really don't think buying a 120hz screen later and installing is really going to make all that much difference or worth all the trouble to install and source parts.
But that's just my opinion .
By the way I'm loving my np9377 980m sli with 4810mq. Couldn't be happier.
Edit: I said I could clock my screen to 80hz. I haven't even tried to go higher . For all I know it could reach 100hz like others here have also pointed out. I just had no need or desire to go any higher.Last edited: Mar 3, 2015 -
Also I ordered mine from exotic pc and was very pleased with customer service and them overall so far. I got the 2 year sagar warranty instead of exotics warranty because I'm like only 4 hours drive from sagar where my laptop was built.
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I don't have time to write a paper on it. But I would suggest listening to Ethrem and others in the posts above. They know what they are talking about. I agree with the 4910mq processor being more than enough and is better for thermals than the mx chips. Also one 330w psu is plenty unless you are trying to beat mrfox's 3dmark scores. The computer at stock with 4810mq and 980m sli with no overclock of any kind in pumping out 100+ fps in most everything I play on it. Some a little less but mostly more than that. So unless you are a benchmark enthusiasts the laptop works almost to good to be true with everything stock.
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Sager NP9377-S (Clevo P377SM-A)
- – U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080) (SKU - SSC002)
- - 30 Day No Dead Pixel Warranty
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4910MQ (2.9GHz - 3.9GHz, 8MB Intel® Smart Cache) (SKU – SPU402)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- SLI (2x) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 980M (16.0GB total) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 (Maxwell) [User Upgradeable] (SKU – GPU04X)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 16GB DDR3 1600MHz [2x8GB] Kingston HYPER X (CL9) Dual Channel Memory (SKU - RAMX99)
- Remove All Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- No Laptop Laser-Sketch™
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- RAID-0 Storage - (Stripe) Combines mSATAs for performance. (Requires identical mSATA SSDs)
- mSATA Slot 1 Preconfigured as an OS Drive ( Operating System – Drive C: ) / mSATA Slot 2 ( Storage Drive )
- 256GB Micron M600 mSATA SSD
- 256GB Micron M600 mSATA SSD
- 1TB 5400RPM (w/ 8GB SSD Memory) Seagate Hybrid 64MB Cache [SATA III - 6GB/s] (SKU - HDD092)
- 2TB 5400RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] (SKU - HDD2B2)
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
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- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Intel® Dual Band AC 7260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - WIFI94)
- No Network Accessory
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- Integrated Digital Video Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- Spare 330W Sager AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- No Operating System [Drivers & Utility Software Only (Windows 7 & 8.1)]
- None
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Back Up Software
- No Unlimited GB Cloud Backup
- - No Microsoft OFFICE Software
- No Software Bundle
- No Global Anti-Theft Protection (Options below require an operating system)
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Technical Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - WTY099)
- * 24/7 LIFETIME U.S. based technical support
* Extreme QA testing by dedicated technicians
* 24-72 Hour stress testing and benchmarking to ensure top performance and stability
- Standard Production Time
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No XOTIC PC Gear
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get 3 years warranty
screw the hybrid hard drive. get the 2TB or the regular 1TB 7200RPM. You already have SSD storage so don't worry about that.
Alternately, see if you can manage a 128GB SSD for your OS and a 512GB for your games. It's the setup I have and it's working great (except for the fact that my plextor rips my samsung to shreds) -
Could you type a paper on this laptop? Possible DJ with it at a show? Quite? Fun? What are your overall thoughts?
Sager NP9377-S (Clevo P377SM-A)
- FREE!!! – U.S. UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout) [U.S. Lower 48 ONLY / Restrictions Apply]
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080) (SKU - SSC002)
- FREE! - 30 Day No Dead Pixel Warranty
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4910MQ (2.9GHz - 3.9GHz, 8MB Intel® Smart Cache) (SKU – SPU402)
- FREE! - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- SLI (2x) - NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 980M (16.0GB total) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 (Maxwell) [User Upgradeable] (SKU – GPU04X)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 16GB DDR3 1600MHz [2x8GB] Kingston HYPER X (CL9) Dual Channel Memory (SKU - RAMX99)
- Remove All Branding
- Standard Laptop Finish
- No Laptop Laser-Sketch™
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- No Custom Laptop Painting
- RAID-0 Storage - (Stripe) Combines mSATAs for performance. (Requires identical mSATA SSDs)
- mSATA Slot 1 Preconfigured as an OS Drive ( Operating System – Drive C: ) / mSATA Slot 2 ( Storage Drive )
- 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series mSATA SSD - Default
- 250GB Samsung 840 EVO Series mSATA SSD
- 2TB 5400RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] (SKU - HDD2B1)
- 2TB 5400RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s] (SKU - HDD2B2)
- HDD Raid Settings - OFF
- 6X Blu-Ray Burner + 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive (Sager) (SKU - ODD083)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Bluetooth Included *With select wireless cards only* (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Intel® Dual Band AC 7260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - WIFI94)
- No Network Accessory
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- Integrated Digital Video Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- Spare 330W Sager AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- No Operating System [Drivers & Utility Software Only (Windows 7 & 8.1)]
- None
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Back Up Software
- No Unlimited GB Cloud Backup
- - No Microsoft OFFICE Software
- No Software Bundle
- No Global Anti-Theft Protection (Options below require an operating system)
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Technical Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - WTY099)
- * 24/7 LIFETIME U.S. based technical support
* Extreme QA testing by dedicated technicians
* 24-72 Hour stress testing and benchmarking to ensure top performance and stability
- Standard Production Time
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No XOTIC PC Gear
- No XOTIC PC / LOOT CRATE -
Agreed on the 3 year warranty and hybrid hard drive (they have a high failure rate). Disagree about storing games on an SSD. This debate has been played out, there's negligible performance difference between using a 7200 RPM hard drive for games or an SSD. You can fill a 512GB drive in no time with games today clocking in some 30-50GB. My steam library is around 350GB right now but I don't have the bigger games like SoM, Crysis, etc.
As for your DJ question, I can answer that for you - the stock audio in this laptop has too much noise for high fidelity audio output, you'd need to get an external USB solution for that. This is one of the best and cheapest solutions. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...ys_gigaport_hd_8_out_usb_audio_interface.html
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But that's not all. When validating steam cache etc it's very very quick.
I know a lot of games sadly don't benefit from SSDs. It's RAM or connection limitations, usually. Some games won't load till you download enough connection data from the server (like Titanfall) and others simply dump everything in RAM and give most people similar load times (Dark Souls 1 and 2, Mass Effect 1 and 2, etc). A good comparison is ME3, which is more hard-drive based. I can't even read them, they all pass so quickly.
But it's up to the OP, and I do agree games are ridiculously large right now. I manage though. Lots of older games aren't that large at all and you can store many of them. =D. That being said, crap like Final Fantasy 13 that's freaking 60GB? Hell no, that went clean on my HDD.
This is only a little money, but if you really aren't going to be using this, you could save about $25 by using the regular DVD drive.
You have still left your warranty at 1 year. Bro/Sis, listen, if you're paying $3000+ for a machine, you had damn well better make sure THEY'RE fixing it if so much as the keyboard coughs in 2.7 years.Ethrem likes this. -
Loading time doesn't matter that much to me, in-game experience is the same. But I only have 480GB of SSD and my Steam library isn't all my games... That doesn't include Origin or Watch Dogs or my super modded FF7 (the mod alone is 50GB with all the extras). My drives would be totally full.
Again, agreed on the drives. I have the M500s in mine and they are great drives. Won't win benchmark awards but the performance isn't an issue. Got a pair of M550s in my desktop.
Same with the warranty. Don't cheap out on the warranty.
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Do not get 840 Evo SSD's.. Those things are broken...
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I have one of the 1TB 840 EVO mSATAs and haven't had any issues at all, though my random write IOPS aren't quite as high as it says they could be.
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So what drives to I exactly get? I do not think Xotic offers them. I guess I will have to get those from Amazon. But then I'll have to order the hard drive brackets separately.
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http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np9377s-clevo-p377sma-p-6981.html?wconfigure=yes
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There has been a firmware bug in the 840 evo that makes performance degrade if data is left inactive for some time, you can currently manually refresh it and there is a fix in the works to make it automatic.
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http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/support/downloads.html
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